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To get right to it, are there any new maxis street textures in the NAM dats for connections with NAM road pecies? If so which dat files would they be located in? Reasoning: I have NAM 36 and I've been having trouble connecting SAM overrides to TLA5, TLA7 & 4 Lane Roads, when I connect override SAM Streets to them, the various networks I just mentioned convert back to single stripes of Road yet all the normal Maxis streets connect just fine BUT I don't like the color of them so I was going to just change the hue of all of the 100+ maxis street textures, change the hue of just the actual street, not the whole image. I just want to darken them and make them more black so the match my NAM networks better. And just out of curiosity, does NAM 37 address these SAM connections to various Road override netwoks? I still want to darken the maxis streets though, they look too off, too light gray, they stand out horribly but I have to use them so I don't have stop lights at every intersection in my cities. Edit: Hmmm, I don't see how to delete a topic I created. Tarkus pointed me towards his mod that did exactly what I was hoping to achieve. So if any moderator manages to see this, feel free to remove this topic, it's no longer needed. I would remove it but I don't have that option(that I can find anyway) ----> TRK-NAM Default Asphalt Street Mod

Is the HT-Fix something I have to run or something I just put into my plug in folder? If I have to run it then I need to find it or redownload it. My plug in folder is set up the same, I only renamed it then deleted the ".../my documents/SimCity 4" folder and replaced it with my old one, other than adding the SC4Fix.dll. I'll check that in-game, to make sure people are $$$ Sims are working at HT, of not I'll fix that and open up lot editor and check on the buildings as props. Thanks for the help.

Thank you T Wrecks. I played it till around 1 am last night, it completely stopped the random minimizing and didn't even crash once. I was playing on the city that I had to abandon, I had all the HD textures on and the custom resolution, think I played for about 2 hours? (I lose track of time), no minimizes, no sound issues and no crashes. When I initially installed it over a year ago, I either installed some kind of update I shouldn't had or installed the two updates in the wrong order. Back then I was running into the issue of the game not starting because of that windows update that prevented the CD from being read. On that city I played on, with the custom resolution and HD textures on, it would minimize about every 10 to 15 minutes then the sound would go out, then shotly after if i didn't restart the game a crash would follow shortly after . Last night I built a lot extra on that city, even added more custom buildings and had no issues at all, it's definitely 100% fixed. Now I should be able to make better cities, before I had all these custom buildings, over 200 of them, my cites would start getting very choppy and crash a lot once my population got up to around 25k, about a quarter of the 8x8 maps filled. I'm from the south, so I like building cities similar to the ones around me, no sky scrappers, plus I can see all my road networks that I spend a lot of time designing. So, it is 100% fixed, better than before that minimizing issue started occurring about 2 weeks ago.

It's no longer having the issue of the game randomly minimizing, there is slight lag but the draw speed is working way faster and I have all of my HD mods on for the terrain, water, rock and beach and over 40 custom buildings plopped, on this particular city, with all that on it would had started messing up by now, problem solved! Thanks a million to all. The SC4Fix is functioning properly also, it's in my plugins folder, when I tried that previously it would send me an error message telling me my game was not patched thus it could not work. I did a lot during my test run and I have seen no issues. Thanks a lot! To you and all others who helped!

YES!!! VICTORY!!! I haven't tried it out yet, I'm about to though but after I ran the two updates, my SimCity.exe actually says I have the right version, 1.1.640! I ran them from desktop like you said and in the right order and they actually worked! With the SC4Fix.dll, do I run that like a program or do I just put it in my plugins folder(Not in a sub-folder within my plugins folder)? Do I have to install the Maxis package, all the new buildings, or is that just completely optional? All they do is clutter up my menu, I don't use them. Is there anything important that comes with them, like the Bldg prop pack vol 1 & 2, should I make sure I have those? I use all my custom buildings from several Simtropolis content creators. Now my command line will actually give highpriority to SimCity. I'm going to add my card back to Video Cards.sgr and Graphic Rules.sgr. I have a Intel(R) HD Graphics 2000 integrated graphics card and it's not in the list in the sgr files. After I do that I'm going to test it out, it should run much smoother now and I should be able to use the SC4Fix.dll. Thank you to you and all who helped, I feel confident that the issue will have been resolved, we will see. THANKS!

Thanks for the reply, I decided to go ahead with an Uninstall and a fresh install. I changed the folder name of my ".../My Documents/SimCity 4" folder just to be safe, it had an option to not remove my cities so they probably would had been safe anyway. I remembered that when I first installed it, about a year ago, that I installed more files than 2 update patches, maybe I did something wrong then and installed something I shouldn't had? Maybe that's why it wouldn't update to 1.1.640? I found the Maxis files here on Simtropolis and went ahead and downloaded them and put them in a safe, easy to find place for future reference, I probably had them somewhere, the question would be where. But anyway, I downloaded the two patches, EP1 and the SC4Update4BAT, I had already got the NAM 36 installer but I should just be able to delete the new SimCity folder in "My Documents" & rename my folder back to SimCity 4, the one that has all my plugins. I also copied my command line from my shortcut, then I noticed the error, the missing hyphen for CPUCount, maybe that's why I was having issues? Who knows why, but I will have a fresh install then make sure I do the two updates, starting with EP1(Sku) then the other BAT update, to see if maybe I can actually get it updated this time. I wasn't used to messing with these files when I first installed it, so there is no telling what I did and I can't remember. But I know this time, after the EP1 update and after the BAT update, when I hover my mouse over my ".../Apps/SimCity.exe" file, it should say "version 1.1.640". Last time I installed, I had a hard time finding the CD key, so thankfully I wrote it on the little install book in the case so it was easy to find. It should be done installing now, I just put disc 2 in a few minutes ago. Hopefully this will work and I'll be able to use the SC4Fix.dll, I have it and NAM 36 installer in the same folder with the two updates, labeled good and I put me a dedicated folder on my D: drive so they will be easy to find if I have anymore issues in the future. This time I'll get the commands rightson the shortcut also. So, you think it will be best to run the SC4Update4BAT from my desktop? Should I do the EP1 from there too? I was going to try putting them in my Program Files SimCity folder but I'll do the desktop route if you think that will be better. I'll report back in a little, I'm about to try the updates in a minute, it should be done installing now. I found something called a SimCity Launcher, I'm not sure what that's for, I Uninstaller it thinking it was the Uninstall program for SimCity, it was in the SimCity folder with PIM, LOT Editor and the SimCity_x.dat's.

Well, that didn't last long. It just cut back to desktop again (minimize, not crash), and when I clicked on the icon to bring the focus back to the game the sound issue started again. Crazy thing is, my 4x4 city I switched to, it was still doing the same thing and all I had done on that city was run the main highway straight through with 6 intersections, 2x 6ave and seperated RHW S8, with 3 normal Avenue's tunneling under the ground ramp to transfer to elevated, level 1, RHW. So basically, all I had was a few road pieces ran, I had only made the intersetions, a few road pieces. The graphic end was running great, no lag at all, yet it kept minimizing then started with the severe sound lag then a crash eventually., with basically nothing on the map, I didn't even have hills or anything, other than the 3 sections for the

Ah yes, and thanks for trying to help, everybody 👍

Hmmm, I've been playing for about 30 minutes, so far so good, it does work sometimes for longer though, before it starts messing up. Normally it would had randomly minimized by now, so far it hasn't. I removed my terrain stuff, my see-through water mod, HD rock, HD terrain and HD beach sand. I play it tonight and see how it does. I have a fear about uninstalling it, with my luck it will be worse if I try that. I'm back on my 8x8 too, the project I had to abandon because it was just getting too buggy, minimizing the game about every 15 minutes. I'm pretty sure the last time I installed it, I had a hard time finding the maxis update to get it to 1.1.638. If anyone knows whether the new digital copy comes completely updated to 1.1.641, I will buy a new copy from whatever site you recommend rather than trying to problem solve the issue with my game claiming it is 1.1.638.0 while the SC4Update4BAT claims it's already updated, then the SC4Fix.dll says it hasn't been updated so I can't use it, and from what I've read it does prevent some crashes. I need to track those update files down anyway, incase something happens and I end up needing a new computer. That's possible being I got a notification a few months ago about windows claiming they will no longer make updates, support or something like that, for Windows 7. If I can get a copy working good on this computer, I would be willing to just unplug it from the Internet and use that machine as my SimCity 4 station. I would like to be able to run it with everything jacked up, currently I have to have the shadows down to the lowest setting. I miss my terrain stuff, I had my game looking great, plus my new see through water, if it runs good tonight, I'll try to slowly add some of that back and see if it still runs good.

I have two plugin folders, one in "Program Files (x86)\Maxis\SimCity 4 Deluxe\Plugins" and one in "My Documents\SimCity 4\Plugins". The one in Program Files is empty other than the 5 files for the grid background. I'll try to copy my plugins to D: but it didn't work when I tried to copy it to C:/. It wouldn't even let me put them in a zip, unless I go to the actual files deep into my MatB325 folder, then I can only do one building at a time and I have over 100 of them. Guess I may start renaming them so the names aren't too long, it's maxing out the 255 standard length for file path name, I tried to look into that but I don't know how to use the command prompts to move files. They have alternate programs that will do it but I don't know enough to safely go off and start downloading programs off the internet. I'll probably do it the long way and just start renaming the files to shorter names, a lot of them have names over 40 characters long on the Model files and Desc files. I saw, on GOG that the game isn't but 20 bucks, I can't get my version to update, is there digital version already patched and updated all the way? If so, I may just buy their version anyway. If I where to buy a digital copy from GOG.com, would I need any further updates? I would it be ready to go minus SC4Fix.dll? If it comes all ready to go and all I have to do is a fresh install and put SC4Fix.dll in my plugins folder, I may just go that route. My game is acting funky, as you can see from the exeptions report, my game version is 1.1.638.0, and the SC4Update4BAT will not update it, claims it has been, that I don't understand, so if the game from GOG comes updated to 1.1.641 I may just go ahead and buy it. So, if I get it from GOG.com, what further updating will I have to do to have it as updated as possible?

jeffryfisher, It randomly minimizes, still running, just like if you were to 'press control + escape' during gameplay, only mine is just doing it for no reason, then when I bring the game back into focus the sound may start acting up, then that may lead to an actual crash.

Well, that sucks. I guess I'll just check it out, maybe buy another copy. It worked, mostly fine up until 2 weeks ago, other than the issue with it remaining 1.1.638.0 even after the update. I guess I'll try to order a copy from GOG.com, it will come already patched? Will I need any further updates or will it be all ready to go? The normal game is dead, I only got back into it because of all the new features. When I first installed it, it would not run at all, until I uninstalled windows update KB3086255 . So it's just no longer supported is the issue? If there is nothing I can do, I'll just buy a new copy.

For there to be two installs, would there have to be two directories for it? All I have is the one Maxis folder in ".../Program Files(x86)/Maxis/SimCity 4 Deluxe" I may try to do an Uninstall and reinstall, I have all I need except I remember it being hard to find that EP1 update(My version is really old). Can I do a "complete uninstall" and it will save my plugins? I can't back them up because in some of the folders the "file path" is too long to copy them or even compress them, especially in the MattB325 buildings, I have almost every building he made, over 100 of them. Maybe I'l just rename that whole folder just to be safe, it would take many days to reinstall all my plugins. First I have to see if I can find all the correct updates, are they easy to locate? I know i have the SC4Fix.dll, the SC4Update4BAT. Can I just copy the EP1 update? There is some SKU update i cound't quite figure out if I needed or if I already did it? My "Sku_Data" folder has another folder in it, "Sku1_US" and in it, one file, "Plugin_002_TheLivingMall". It may have had more of those buildings at one time yet I moved them, I'm OK with not having them, I don't really like them.

I'm running it in administrator mode, so far, 10-15 minutes in with all my terrain MODs removed(Terrain, Water, Beach & Rock) and it's already done it once, randomly minimize. The sound hasn't went out, but this is how it has typically been going for the last two weeks, one of the times it minimizes, the sound is going to start messing up. Up until about 2 weeks ago, the only time it would cut to desktop is if the game actually crashed thus requiring me to restart the game. In the last two weeks though, about every 10 to 30 minutes the game just automatically minimizes, like it would if I pressed "control + escape". Could having too many custom buildings cause an issue like that? I haven't counted them but I saw so many that I wanted, I have over 200 of them in my plugins folder, along with many MMP's like pond kits and a long list of plopable trees. Having too much stuff I would imagine would just make the game lag, not randomly minimize.

I found this last night also, if this helps any. It's a folder in ".../Documents/SimCity 4" named "Exception Reports" I assume from when the game actually crashes, here is the upper portion of the last crash... " Exception time: 05/01/2020, at 11:48:57. Exception code: 0xC0000005 (-1073741819) ACCESS_VIOLATION. Current thread ID: 3412 (0x00000d54). Version information: Application/module path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Maxis\SimCity 4 Deluxe\Apps\SimCity 4.exe Application/module version name: SimCity 4 Application/module version: 1.1.638.0 System version: Windows NT 6.1 System memory: 4096 Megabytes total, 4096 Megabytes free. Exception module: C:\Program Files (x86)\Maxis\SimCity 4 Deluxe\Apps\SimCity 4.exe. Exception address: 0x0075ac37. Section:Offset: 0x01:0x00353c37."