mattias333

Many thanx Nonny. Ive not been about much over the weekend but Ill look into my plugins suite you mentioned this evening. Too be fair I had a tweak of various settings and its running fairly well now. Occassionally stuttering etc....but living with it for now. Up to 145,000 sims. Rapidly running out of room on my main tile so will likely move onto another soon. All a good learning process anyway Ive only got NAM installed though and im getting to the stage where im tempted to install a bit more of a fuller installation of NAM. My rail network is fairly basic lol! My whole city is to be fair! All part of the learning curve though Many thanx Nonny. Ive not been about much over the weekend but Ill look into my plugins suite you mentioned this evening. Too be fair I had a tweak of various settings and its running fairly well now. Occassionally stuttering etc....but living with it for now. Up to 145,000 sims. Rapidly running out of room on my main tile so will likely move onto another soon. All a good learning process anyway Ive only got NAM installed though and im getting to the stage where im tempted to install a bit more of a fuller installation of NAM. My rail network is fairly basic lol! My whole city is to be fair! All part of the learning curve though

Unlucky chap. Blooming frustrating. Nearly as frustrating as my issue where I finally took the plunge and purchased sc4 after years of being tempted, spent a while getting my head round the game, got the hang of it.....then it slows up and keeps stuttering now im over 100,000 in my main city. Blooming annoying. Tried all the obvious quick fixes or suggestions. Only marginally helped. Some may be able to put up with it but for me its unplayable now as cheetah speed is basically impossible as its just as slow and stuttery as when on normal speed.

Ok thankyou chap, ill try the direct x route this evening. Everything else ive tried has marginally helped but its anything but smooth anymore. Stuttering and starting. Such a shame as a bit of a game breaker at the minute. Even tried turning every detail to low and it looks blooming awful now on top of taking forever to play an in game week lol!

Grrrr ive tried as many ideas ive read on here possible. but the games virtually unplayable now. so frustrating. takes forever to navigate round the map or progress a day because of the stuttering stop.start just cant get my head round it

Well thats what i'd naturally assume as well buddy. But read an article on http://attendthis.net/cba/tutorials/article/4-simcity-4-getting-the-best-performance-and-eliminating-ctds/ which states "Also, always - always - run in Hardware rendering mode. Contrary to popular belief, software mode will actually make your game run slower than if in hardware mode. The misconception arises because of the aforementioned unoptimized shadows, as the degree of lag they cause is lessened in software rendering, leading people to believe software rendering is faster. However, if you were to compare the two modes with shadows set to off, you'd notice the game running much smoother/faster in hardware rendering." If anyone can confirm if the above is factual please let me know. Will to try anything to get the game playable as its game breaking at the minute.

I was wondering that similar to you richie99. My residental demand for R$ is still huge. My city is over 112,000 now and the demand is still huge. Sadly many businesses keep going abandoned due to lack of demand and I still have this one little patch of $$$ apartments that keep abandoning. I took Nonny (apoligies for incorrect name spelling previously my friend) advice and when that happens i've rezoned as commercial. That eases the problem for a short while then the same little patch of no job icons appear. Sadly now my game has started the dreaded lag issues. Only in my main city though (around 112,000 sims). It is like an intermittent freeze/lag every 20-30 seconds. If I try speed up to cheetah speed I may as well forget it. Just suddenly happened while ive been trying to figure my no job lot problem out. Luckily I've seen some helpful people like Nonny on this site giving advice and ill attempt to follow those instructions later to try speed the game up. I have tried re-running the nam installer on a less setting but it didnt make any difference really. So odd how it went from brilliantly running smooth then suddenly laggy when I went over 100,000 sims in one city. I cant really afford to run the installer on the lowest setting anyway as when I tried I noticed it removed alot of my road networks I'd used to easy my commute time problems. I saw someone mention on this site about the simcity4 launcher? You guys who have replied to thread so far have been incredibly helpful so ill trust your opinions on this or any other ways of speeding the sim up again. Saw others mentioning running the game in Hardware rendering mode instead of software as well? Also turning the shadows off etc...Will give it all a try when home from work and got the little man off to bed. Trial and error I suppose. Also at the risk of sounding even more of a Newbie can you explain exactly what you mean by -CPUCount:1 option nonny. Apologies again, I just lack the knowledge to make use of some of the advice given at times. ha!

Followed many of your advice (especially yours noony) and although I wasnt playing for very long (the game seriously slowed up for some odd reason - hoping I dont have to re-install NAM again with even less things installed etc...) the problems I was suffering have appeared to ease for the time being. Less apartments of $$ & $$$ showing no jobs now. Did some work with the road network & followed noony's advice reading the plots for low res. Still massive demand for low res though and R$$ so ill continue expanding that even further as that eased a few of the no job icon lots. Still a fair few med com buildings gone out of business though. Guess I just went over the top when the demand was there. To demolish or leave thats the question I suppose. Stupidly addicted to this sim!

Apologies Noony. Just a very eager to learn Newbie. Still learning exactly what a vast majority of the phrases used on here mean etc as well. I feel like im in a country where I dont naturally speak the local lingo at times ha! Getting there. Going to try a few trial an errors without saving using a couple of theories ive seen you guys mention. Fingers crossed I get to the bottom of it.

I've just stumbled across an anchient post via a google search from a menber called Toroca back in 2008 that has sparked a few brainwaves in my head. the article is here: and his comment is a fair way down the page in answer to what appears a similar question to my own sims with no job icon problem. I'll copy and paste his answer here. Obviously im not a vet like you guys so just want to insure what he's saying is technically correct and not an old wives tale etc. " realize this thread has been quiet for over a week, but the likely problem has yet to be mentioned here. Since the problem seems to be primarily with R$$$ sims, it is most likely that there were too many of them. Without modding certain specific parts of the game, R$$$ sims move into cities in far greater numbers than the available jobs can support. Newer players often mistakenly assume that all jobs in Co$$$ buildings are for R$$$ sims, and the same for IHT. But Co$$$ buildings only supply 15% of their jobs to R$$$ sims, and Co$$ and IHT only have 10% R$$$ jobs. So if you have a building that contains 2000 R$$$ sims, and we assume that roughly half of them are looking for work (which is typical for SC4), you need 1000 R$$$ level jobs. This would require 10,000 total IHT or Co$$ jobs, since only 10% per building are for R$$$ sims. The other 9000 are intended for R$ and R$$ sims. With Co$$$, it would require a total of about 6700 jobs to get the needed 1000 R$$$ ones. Again, the other 5700 would go to R$ and R$$ sims. Since the unmodded simulator allows far too many R$$$ sims to move in, their job supply is usually severely lacking. The abandoment problem arises for most players when R$$$ sims reach the point where they make up more than 20-25% of the total population, regardless of total city size. Careful management of the R$$$ population through high taxes makes it possible to avoid ever seeing an abandoned or distressed R$$$ building. I allow just enough of them in to take up the available high wealth jobs, and then I raise their taxes to the point where R$$$ demand goes either neutral or even slightly negative." Like I previously mentioned my Green 'R' demand is very high. I'll try re-word the above answer in simple simon terms (or should I say Simple Mattias the newbie terms lol!) Its my $$$ and a few $$ sims who are abandoning there homes due to no job (suspected due to long distance to find a job). Obviously like real life for every High wealth resident (R$$$) they need plenty of low wealth residents (R$) working bellow them in office or commercial jobs etc.... Just because ive zoned plenty of high density com or office near there homes, it does not mean they will all find work there etc....need plenty of R$ to help those jobs grow etc. I know this likely isn't the answer to all my prayers etc...but its one penny that hadn't dropped in my head atleast im my thinking is on the correct wave length. <apologies for long posts. Hopefully not boring everyone>

thanx for the reply. Ive been following the 'let's play' guide on youtube. Ive currently got a AG style city on a small region next to my main city thats got the issue. Over that region is a landfill-esq region. On average I always seem to have 6-7 $$$ & $$ apartment buildings get the no job icon at a time. They then go abandoned and a different apartment replaces it nearby with a no job icon it appears. Some sims are traveling a heck of a distance so I assume thats the reason they abandon as they are literally getting out of town, only highway and then going straight out the city totally to my AGR based city next door oddly. Tried zoning com & offices near there homes with easy access but no luck. Like you mention my green R demand is high so maybe more low wealth could help with the stores going out of business but it says there going out of business due to lack in demand. Confused as anything. Wish the in game advisors could be more help when an icon appears like the ones im getting over apartments. Especially to new players. Or maybe they could have included tutorials of how to deal with similar situations that they have purposely built and then you'll know how to fix them. The games got so many possible outcomes its near impossible for anyone to advise of help without physically playing the save themselves in most cases. Ill keep playing around hoping it will sort itself this evening. Fingers crossed!

How odd, just using the question mark and right clicking does the same thing on my edition. Obviously understand those figures is a different ball game all together lol! Still struggling to solve my no jobs in residental area's due to long commutes/businesses going out of business concerns. Looking at the RCI outlook image the green 'R' bar is exceptionally high an when looking closer at the breakdown the Demand is exceptionally high for low wealth & medium wealth residental. The blue bar is marginally in the negative although when you look closer at the in depth breakdown there is a slight (ever so slight) demand for medium wealth commercial & office. The Yellow bar is massively in the negative but when you look at the breakdown pretty much all dirty industry is in the major negative which is fine by me as im not looking for anymore, BUT the high tech yellow bar is right near the max mark despite on the outlook of the RCI graph the yellow bar being rock bottom. I've just gone over 105,000 people in my main city. Got a fair few high tech ind developed but reluctant to build more yet as a fair few plots in perfect spots have not developed yet. Really puzzled how to solve the issue. When querying the buildings that say they have no job there all mostly $$$ wealth with a few $$ wealth. I've looked where there traveling for work and a majority are not traveling that far with only a few travelling out of the city to work which I assume is what causes the Long commute reading. I bet there is something stupidly obvious Im missing which you guys will spot immediately. There is only about 7 apartment buildings with the no job icon above them but they seem to get abandoned and then a few more get the icon in there place which worries me its a problem that isn't going away and only getting worse with every 200-300 person building going under. Same for businesses. Everytime I check over a few more smaller businesses buildings have gone out of business (do they not give a warning like with residental homes?). Apologies for posting no screen shot but so short of time at home im barely getting a chance to play the game and try sort it myself lol. Trying to think of any other helpful info you may need. Taxes are fairly standard around 9.0% apart from dirty which is taxed a tiny bit more as im not looking for that here and want it else where in another city. I know a newbie mistake I made (just like the Lets play help videos guy did) was confusing the different wealth sims with the low/med/high density. They dont always tie up etc. My heads spinning ha! Any help appreciated as always. Sorry for all the questions guys.

yeah, so ill leave it well alone lol! Thanks though. All to complex with me at this infant stage using the game. also though Noony you mentioned being able to bring up additional stats and info on any building if the 'extra cheats dll' is within the correct directory. Ive downloaded and placed correctly as instructed and ctrl + x and right clicking in the text box brings up the list of options etc like it should. So its installed fine on the game. It was your instructions though that confused me a little when you said Hold down CTRL+ALT+SHIFT and move '?' over a building for the stats. it only brings up the usual stats for me. Am I missing something obvious? Think i've got it. Ignore me....just simply right clicked lol! (not that I understand it all lol)

Just a quick query Noony..... I remember you first mentioning to me to download NAM etc...as it fixes the traffic bug within the game. Does just simply downloading and installing nam sort this fix or do you have to do anything additionally to fix the traffic bug. Just thinking out loud but noticed with NAM its installed the 'Traffic Simulator Configuration Tool' as well. At a glance that looks very confusing and likely something I should steer away from as a super $%&^!. Just wondered what it was etc....or if its something I do desperately need....or even could be causing my issue in the game currently.

Oh yes I recall you mentioning that previously in relation to another subject! Ill look into that the other night. The word cheat usually scares me off but I read your opinion on what it should be called. Ill have a look into it.

Looks a similar issue to what im having. My lovely looking apartments consisting of $$ or $$$ people keep abandoning due to long commute, despite there being jobs literally on there doorsteps. Or at least it appears to me. I dont disagree, there comutes are extremely long, but there is demand for there jobs and there right there on the doorstep. Frustrating. Surely something im missing but cant get my head round it.