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The idea's not mine, I took it from another website but I thought it interesting to have your point of view and examples from all over the world of obvious bitter unfriendly rivalries between cities (neighboring or not). A few cases from my country, France: Paris vs Marseille (the arrogant capital city vs the rebellious mediterranean second largest French city) Lyon vs Saint-Etienne Nantes vs Rennes (both claiming the title of Brittany's capital city) Rouen & Le Havre vs Caen (Northern Normandy vs Southern Normandy) Metz vs Nancy (Northern German-like Lorraine vs Southern Lorraine) Bordeaux vs Toulouse (both cities think they're south-western France's one and only metropolis)

I don't think anyone has come up with such a topic yet, so here it is Let's inaugurate it with toll plazas located in the Paris region. Most highways are toll free and major toll plazas are some 40-50-60 kms from downtown Paris on major turnpikes connecting Paris with other major French cities 1st is the Montesson toll plaza on the A14 tollway (La Défense - Orgeval) " ne peut

Nice to see EJC's back with this Ruhrgebiet CJ. Unfortunately, I guess the Paris CJ is over... unless I missed sth. Just to help, here are a few pix of the SIgnal Iduna Park (ex-Westfalenstadion) in Dortmund and the Veltins Arena (ex-Arena auf Schalke) in Gelsenkirchen. Both stadiums hosted WC'06 games Signal Iduna Park (82,000 Bundesliga games, 65,000 Int'l games), home of the Borussia Dortmund (1997 Champions League winners) Veltins Arena (60,000 Bundesliga games, 52,000 Int'l games), home of the FC Schalke 04

Originally posted by: haljackey Really, i think the best place to live is around the French Riveria. Basically anywhere between Barcelona, Spain to Monaco (inbetween the French and Italian boarder) is a paradice of warm weather with an awsome landscape of grasslands surrounded by rolling hills. Also, many of the cities in this area have class and a rich history, especially Nice, France. Believe it or not, but this area has the same latitude as southwestern Ontario, Canada, where the temp. can dip below -20 degerees in the winter. The good old Mediterranean sea keeps this area warm so palm trees grow and the weather is great all year round. Heres a pic of the Cote' Dajaur (gold coast) of Nice, France quote> Cote' Dajaur???????? Never heard about it. You probably mean COTE D'AZUR (Côte d'Azur) which doesn't mean Gold Coast (Côte d'Or in French) but Azure Coast (for those who may not know, azure is a kind of blue See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azure_%28color%29

My home is in Vincennes, east of Paris (see the blue circle centered on my home.) It is circled by four freeways : boulevard périphérique or BP (inner Paris beltway), A3, A4, and A86 (another beltway)

XONRUPT-LONGEMER, Vosges, Lorraine, France. No need to find some random Chinese city, he he he!!!

GREAT FRENCH FREEWAY SIGNS !!! C'est possible d'en avoir des vues plus rapproch

As far as I'm concerned, I think the debate over which country has the best freeways/motorways/expressways/tollways/turnpikes or whatever you call them is useless. As a French citizen, I admit French autoroutes are, for the most part of them, amazing and it's pure pleasure driving them. It is true though that freeways in the Paris metro are poorly maintained and designed although the emphasis has been put on that for more than a decade. In any event, for those complaining that there are no freeways crossing downtown historical Paris, all that I can say is "Would you like a double decker or sunken freeway to be built right next Notre-Dame or to cross the Champs-Elys

As far as I know, R is before T so Rio de Janeiro is not valid. UNTERHACHING (in Bavaria, near Munich)

In France, the broadest freeway portion is the 12-lane A6 running through suburbs south of Paris (from Arcueil to Wissous) on approximately 7 kms. At some points, it even briefly turns into a 13-14 lane freeway. I don't know whether it's the widest in Europe or not. XImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader(sizingMethod=crop,src='''> '); LEFT: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; WIDTH: 59px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; POSITION: absolute; TOP: 0px; HEIGHT: 354px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px" unselectable="on" src=" " galleryimg="no"> XImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader(sizingMethod=crop,src='''> '); BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; WIDTH: 59px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; HEIGHT: 30px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px" unselectable="on" src=" " galleryimg="no"> XImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader(sizingMethod=crop,src='''> '); LEFT: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; WIDTH: 22px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; POSITION: absolute; TOP: 8px; HEIGHT: 14px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px" unselectable="on" src=" " galleryimg="no"> Map Satellite Hybrid XImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader(sizingMethod=crop,src='''> '); LEFT: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; POSITION: absolute; TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px" unselectable="on" src=" " galleryimg="no"> XImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader(sizingMethod=crop,src='''> '); LEFT: -12px; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; POSITION: absolute; TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px" unselectable="on" src=" " galleryimg="no"> XImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader(sizingMethod=crop,src='''> '); LEFT: -412px; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; POSITION: absolute; TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px" unselectable="on" src=" " galleryimg="no"> XImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader(sizingMethod=crop,src='''> '); LEFT: -4px; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; POSITION: absolute; TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px" unselectable="on" src=" " galleryimg="no"> XImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader(sizingMethod=crop,src='''> '); LEFT: -8px; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; POSITION: absolute; TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px" unselectable="on" src=" " galleryimg="no"> 100 ft 20 m ©2006 Google - Imagery ©2006 The GeoInformation Group, Map data ©2006 TeleAtlas - Terms of Use

Originally posted by: Micah ^ That's the tramway? What a copy off of Houston's rail! It looks almost exactly like Houston's rail! Well... atleast you people are getting better transportation! Don't listen to any of the people who say it will increase commercial growth in the area because it never happens...quote> The Paris tramway's not yet completed, grass is currently being planted on the tracks and the final result will be something like that: As far as Montreal is concerned, I guess significantly upgrading and extending the current subway system should be the top priority.

Originally posted by: haljackey The only way to solve traffic prblems in any city is to provide alternate types of transport. Widening a road will tempory patch a problem for cars, but it will soon reach capicity and needs to be widened again, which does not solve the problem. Implementing France's (and Paris') awsome commuter rail system in Montreal would encourage people to take the trains insted of the cars, easing the congestion on that cities streets and highways. I think its a tarrific idea that other cities should follow. But as Spa mentioned, money is a problem. Biuld big or don't biuld at all I say. The city, province and federal goverments should all invest so there is actually a moderately sized system that takes riders where they want to goquote> I don't know whether Montreal would be less congested with a Paris-like commuter rail system but what I know is that daily traffic in downtown Paris has been at its worst since mayor Bertrand Delano

My home is pretty much located at an equal distance from 3 freeway interchanges in the Paris metro area. The first one is the Boulevard p

Some freeway pix in the Paris metropolitan area On the last one, you may notice the sign on the left that says Stade de France. Charles de Gaulle is... our former president... but also the biggest Paris airport some 20-25 kms north of inner Paris, the famous CDG for those who're used to flying to France. In France, we rather call it Roissy from the name of the suburban town it was built right next to.

Here's a link to a map of the Paris metropolitan area freeway network Enjoy... http://www17.mappy.com/sidMQzU1sMO5U/Mn21w/XAGM?out=2;xsl=1;poi_rr=0.5;lr=0.5;flash=1;nav=IE and another link to a map centered on the very street where I live in Vincennes, right outside of the city of Paris Enjoy again http://www17.mappy.com/sidMQzU1sMO5U/Mn21w/AFGM?recherche=0&posl=poi&show_poi=1&ids=0&poix=0&poiy=0&poi_rr=0.5&poi_rx=0.6&poi_ry=0.5&csl=m2&fsl=m2&gsl=m2&msl=m2&xm2=&ym2=&temp_no_prop=0&comment=&xsl=1&out=2&wnm2=20+Avenue+du+Petit+Parc&wcm2=&nom2=&tnm2=Vincennes&pcm2=94300&tcm2=&a10m2=&ccm2=250