Snowloch

Most of those stats were just in the United States alone. I can't imagine what the world-wide numbers would be. but for every million fish killed there's about a billion more being created and bornquote> Likewise with the seal population. Currently the hunt is for 300k seals, with an estimated population of about 5 million currently. Hardly enough to cause any damage or threat to the population. And fish scales are used from anything from jewelry to make-up. Believe me, most of the sharks killed are just accidents anywayquote> Although some sharks are killed for fear, food or sport, most are killed for the reasons stated in my previous post. Google shark fin soup.

Originally posted by: BumdarkFinally, could you explain what you mean by "mass killing going on with any other type of animal"? I'm probably stupid, but I don't know of any. I know poachers hunt elephants (I'd like to burn them up with flamethowers myself), but mass killings... I can't really think of any examples. Please clarify that. Who knows, maybe I have an opinion on them too...! quote> Fair enough. Some interesting stats found around the web real fast. Take them with a grain of salt, as I would hope everyone interested in the matter would also do thier own research into the matter. -- Over 7.5 - 9 billion (chickens) birds are killed each year in the United States. That's around 21 million a day. -- ...it is estimated that more than 17 billion fish are killed for food in the United States each year. -- (estimated) anywhere from 10 to 30 million cows are killed every year in the United States. -- 100 million sharks are killed each year ... for the skin for high-quality leather; teeth and jaws for ornaments; liver oil for cosmetics, medicines, vitamin A, and skin-care products; and cartilage for false cancer 'cures'. -- 23000 elephants killed each year for ivory. -- Google Chinese Bear Farms. Compare that to 300k seals that aren't even kept in captivity. Now I don't have any problem with the slaughter of cows/chicken/etc either, as there are a lot of people in the world that need to be fed, and is just one of those neccessary evils.

I'm sorry Bumdark, I'm looking at it now and I just can't find those stats anywhere on wikipedia. I did find... "but ringed seal is still an important food source for the people of Nunavut." "Seal oil was often used as lamp fuel, lubricating and cooking oil, for processing such materials as leather and jute, as a constituent of soap, and as the liquid base for red ochre paint." "the harp seal population is now stable at about five million animals, three times as many seals as in the 1970s." Granted probably most of the sealers need to learn how to kill more humanely, but I see no difference in this than in any other mass killing going on with any other type of animal.

So then by your logic Bumdark, we shouldn't eat or kill an animal because it's cute? Seals destroy local fish stock. So even though I wouldn't call seals vermin myself, then certainly can be considered such. BTW, I'd like you to cite where you're getting this 5-10% statistic. Did you know that 34% of statistics are usually made up?

I live in Nova Scotia. The northern part of my province takes part in the annual seal hunt, and quite frankly I am all for it. When your only way of life is either hunt seals, or pack up your family and move, then you hunt seals. For the people that do it it's the only life they know. They don't just use the furs "for the fancy cloths market", they use the meat also for food. How's that any different than slaughtering cows/pigs/lambs for food? At least the seals aren't kept in captivity. You say you're not a citizen of Canada, and you probably have never been anywhere near Atlantic Canada, so try maybe investigating the 'flavour of the month' a little further before spouting off. Originally posted by: TheQuiltedLlama In fact, if the whole world went vegetarian there would be much more food for everyone, and with modern food stuffs like Quorn you can easily get the food stuffs you would otherwise get from meat.quote> Do you also know how much forest around the world would be eliminated, and how much wildlife would be extinct, just to clear land for cultivation?

It's been almost a month so...*bump*

Ok, here's my problem. I am currently creating my first lot for personal use (a country/rural volunteer fire station) and made an attempt at making a new base texture for it. I followed DarkMatter's guide ( https://www.simtropolis.com/modfiles/content.cfm?section=Tutorials&detail=136 ) on creating new base and overlay textures, but when I put the new .dat file into my plugins folder, the base texture didn't show up. I think this is my own mistake (duh) as I wasn't to clear on the whole Importing Your Textures part. He goes on about creating your own instance #'s, but there is nowhere I can find where I can change these #'s. I did match up the .fsh files with there .fsh.tgi files. Followed the instructions further at the bottom and saved my texture to a new .dat file and put it in my plugins folder. What am I missing?