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I for one hate the whole dump site situation. I am forced by economics to employ dumps (which I find real world and acceptable) but my options for the future are exactly two. 1. Cheat 2. Wait an unreasonable amount of time for them to decay. I am of the mindset, real world options should apply in the removial process also and real world is based on economics. Fine I say nail me good with the cost if I am willing to pay, but give me an option. Such as: 1. EPA clean-up; extreamly costly option to have EPA come and remove, detoxify trash or Toxic waste dump pollution. 2. Convert to Golf course; cover my dump with something useful. 3. Allow my incenerator to despose of my dump at a nominal fee per ton, up to the normal limits of my incenerator thus as quickly as I can afford to as long as my incenerator is not at capicity handleing my city''s trash. I say give me choices.

Related to this; had a volcano erupt under my dump, when it was done the dump was hanging off my volcano in mid-air. I know; I know this is technically cheating but get real, when a volocano will not destroy trash something is wrong! Game designers, really now, is it that important to you we cannot remove dumps you make them impervious to volcano''s and able to float in mid air?

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Yea, I hate the way landfills NEVER get destroyed ever when a volconoe pops up, it's soooo unrealistic and should be sorted out.

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Well.. it's always going to be this way. If Maxis let disasters destroy landfills then people would just put them out in the middle of nowhere and when the time came just destroy them by burning/volcanos...

Sorry dude.. garbage is also a problem in real life.... 3.gif

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DO any of you know why there is no longer the option of having an incinerator, like in SC3k?

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You can have one again. Just plop the waste to energy plant somewhere, then go in and turn all of its funding down to 0. You're left with something that just burns trash.

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Yeah, just plop in a Waste-to-Energy Plant, turn the funding down to 0 and watch your trash melt away (keep in mind that it still pollutes like crazy though.)

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incenerator and a * load of trees and it should be no problem. Just don't put it near industries or another power plant as for some reason this intensifies the pollution 23.gif

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This may or may not belong in this thread, but I will put it here anyway, for now at least. Just curious if anyone else has noticed odd behavior at waste->energy plants when they reload a saved city? I have the newest patch, but for some reason, when I save a game and exit, then return to the city later, the waste->energy is ineffective and garbage begins to accumulate...is this a bug, or is my city perhaps in need of 2 waste->energy plants?

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"Allow my incenerator to despose of my dump at a nominal fee per ton"

"had a volcano erupt under my dump, when it was done the dump was hanging off my volcano in mid-air"

lol cant help to laugh my ass off at those sentances

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boo hoo
 
if you place the garbage dumps right and remove the road to them they do decay after a while one way i solved my problem was that i built 2 recycling centers and that reduced my garbage by 40% and made them last longer.. i made a single 4x8 dump last 161 years with 2 recycling centers... sure they may cost a bit to run but i am still making profit

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I have a city with a minimum size landfill with funding set to zero. No WTE and no Recycler. After 5 years, there's no garbage accumulating anywhere. And no one is complaining about the garbage.

Should be interesting to see how long this will last. Don't know yet if it's repeatable.

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my city rolling in trash please help

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well if you set a few trash dumps, and rotate them (cut off the road that leads to them) the trash will dissapear. i usually run a rotating trash scheme untill i invest in a waste to energy plant, then i cut off al the roads to my tips and eventually rezone

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im kinda confused at wat's being asked here. are u ppl trying to find an economic and efficient way of gettin rid of garbage? if thats the case wats wrong with waste-to-energy plants? aside from initial costs, u can turn down its funding to 0 and it still burns the trash for u. just set it off in a corner, right in a thick forest. all of my cities do this, and ive never used a landfill, ever. and build two, or even three or four, as ur city grows. the maintenance cost would still be at ZERO if u turned the funding down... and they'd still ALL be functional incenerators.
 
i havnt looked at the ilive reader yet, but can you change the stats of garbage utillities, such as their capacities? that would probably be the best, if not most unrealistic, solution. imagine increasing the capacities of reallife landfills at the click of a mouse 22.gif

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    Yes I sure could build a waste to energy plant and set the funding to 0, but this defeats my whole point. To me the sastifaction is to grow a city useing only what options exist, my gripe is "what options exist" I think more garbage options should exist because in the real world they do. I have no problem with having Garbage dumps, but does any real city ever just wait 100 years for them to decay? No, when a muncipality grows and finds new ways to despose of garbage they clean up, cover up or otherwise deal with their landfills. Here where I live the incenerator was built on-top of the old dump. I would pay for my incenerator to burn up my trash legally, and if I could afford it why not have it clean up my old garbage quicker also? This was my point on that.

    As for the volcano, there are cheats in the game. But God mode is not a cheat, it is a feature! It is known if you want to use volcanos to destroy, wheather this is a mean God or good God to destroy otherwise costly buildings you can. If you as the owner of the game and want to cheat, or want to play God, again a FEATURE! how does this hurt Maxis? So if you are going to allow cheats and God like features, allow them to work! That a trash dump is an exception, even to the point of what I consider being a bug (hanging in mid air, rather than being destroyed) to me is silly.

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    Does anyone use the Waste-to-Power to actually generate power?

    Or is the funding just not worth it?
    That is, you get better bang for the buck with a Coal or Oil plant?

    I can't quite figure out the capacity formula....

    Like, if I fund it at $300. The max capacity will be like 3000 but actual will be like 500. So I fund it at $80 and max will be like 750. But, the actual will drop to like 100.... It doesn't just stay at 500...

    Maybe it's based on the number of trash you burn and that number varies?

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    i always put a HUGE dump in one city, and have all the nearby cites sell thier trash to it.

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    Won't do it any more.

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