Ploppable landmarks showing up as growable empty lots on zoned land...help!

[bergadario 0]

Hello to everybody! This is my first post, i hope to don't miss anything. I tell you first that i tried to search on the forum for this problem but i didn't find anything. I tried to search the topics one by one but after 23 pages on a total of 114 in the bug section i had to give up (my eyes were squeezing!).

 

Ok first of all i tell you that:

 

1) i have a Deluxe edition, with all the patches installed ( i have the EP1 Update 1 version 1.1.640.0 but in the ea site it tells me that the latest is the 1.1.638.0 ... when i try to update it it says that my game is up to date ...mah...who knows...). I also have the nightlighting patch ( i think is the BAT patch, right?), i have the building as props vol 1 and 2 installed (in a subfolder of the plugin folder located in my installation path...i had to move all my plugins from my documents to there since my OS partition was full ).

 

2) my picture of the problem will be posted below

 

3) my computer specs: Athlon XP 2000+  1.67Ghz, 768 mb RAM, Nvidia GeForce 4 MMX ( i think is 64mb...), 19,5 gb (dimension of the disk partition where the game is installed...3,39 gb are free), I let the Virtual Memory to be determined from the OS after i had a couple of game crashes (i don't know if those crashes happened because i went with NAM puzzle pieces over transit enabled lots or because i got out of memory...).

 

Ok, now let's start with the problem: first of all here's a picture of it:

 

 

 

 

As you can clearly see there's an empty lot just with base textures and props: this is a 3*3 lot where i zoned commercial...if i click on it i see the panel in the picture: it says that that building is the Billy Bob's Food Emporium. But it's not!!

 

Actually i have  the Billy Bob's Food Emporium by Victory in my plugin folder: from what i know is a ploppable building (a Landmark?) with jobs and it's size is 5*5. So why do i get the building (if we can call this a building...) in a 3*3 size and on zoned lands as growable???

 

And also how come the building itself doesn't appear but i see only the base textures and props? (I remember you that i have the building as props vol 1 and 2 so the problem shouldn't be related to those...i read once a thread where mrbisonm was answering that when those files are missing you can have both brown boxes or empty lots like this one...but this is not the case since i have the files).

 

This is not the first time i have this problem: I had the same problem several times also for those other buildings: Nexis Copper Co., Pan Arabian Hotel, East Mall Court, Nexis Truck Manufacturing, Walton Steel Corp. Milling Farm (sorry i don't remember the authors of all of those....just the Nexis ones that are mrbisonm's if i'm right...). And probably it could happen with many others...i don't know... (unfortunately i can't show you also those other buildings since i deleted the pictures i had about them...).

 

I thought that maybe i was missing some props so I checked all those buildings in the Plugin Manager to see if i had all the plugins nedded and i have all of them, except of a couple that aren't main ones (plugin fences. dat for the Walton Steel and TrainCar_Props_E-V3.dat for Nexis Truck Manufactirung that i can't find anywere...where are them??).

 

Infact if i choose the buildings listed above from the Landmark menu and i plop them i can clearly see the buildings, all with their right size...

 

So why do i get those horrible buildings grow in my little tiny city? Everytime i have to bulldoze them but soon or later they will come out again somewhere...does any of you encountered the same problem (exept Glenni that when he had this problem just deleted those buildings...i would try to keep those buildings in my plugin folder instead...)? can anyone help me to solve it?

 

As i told you i tried to search for it in the forum but i was unlucky...if anyone knows a thread about it just post a link. Sorry if i was really long explaining: anyway i hope everything is clear. thanks to you all.

 

bye bye

bergadario

 

 

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

Welcome to our community.

From the statistics panel it appears that this is a growable lot. Some lots come with both a ploppable and a growable version.

Since your game text appears to be in Italiano, I assume you have the european version. It is not impossible that some lots may not work properly in some versions but I think that is reaching a little.

If the lot is actually a ploppable 5 x 5, which menu is it in? To be ploppable you have to be able to pick it up with your cursor and place it.

You say you have similar problems with other lots. I would be tempted to remove all these downloads to another folder, then put them back, one by one testing each time until the problem occurs. When you figure out which lot is the cause of your trouble, you could omit it permanently, or hold it out and PM the lot author.

Ciao.

[Tolomar 5]

also try removing the plopable version from your plugins...sometimes there is a problem with games when you have both the plopable and growable in ... not sure why....there is aloso sometimes problems with growables cuz original the plugin manager assiged wacky stats and other glitches to the growables...the maker made a plopable...used it to make a growable and never checked the growable to see if it worked correctly 

 

in the begining of the bat, no one new that the plugin manager had troubles defining the plopable to growable status...everyone thought they were ok...cuz the plopable appeared and worked correctly

 

some growable just plain don't work correctly cuz of the above mentioned reason...if you wish to test growables in a sandbox region this mod will help

 

https://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?mode=files&filetype=all&category=default&sortby=DatePosted&show=12&Str=Tolomar

 

 

T wreck has a mod on the STEX it repair a lot of the buildings that were made before the glithch was discovered..takes time and a little effort to install it correctly...but it does fix about 500 different buildings

it's still a work in progres...but it definantly helps

https://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?mode=files&filetype=all&category=default&sortby=DatePosted&show=12&Str=T%20wrecks

 

[Peorth 17]

I also encountered the same problem with this specific lot, Billy Bob's Food Emporium. The STEX lists it as a ploppable and there is only a single file called CS$$$-Billy Bob's Food Emporium_4c540151.SC4Lot. The readme doesn't list any dependencies and i have the extra building props (vol 1 and 2) from Maxis. However the building does grow, and also with only the base textures and props. I revisited the specific STEX page and at least three users encountered the same problem. Since Victory (the creator) didn't suggest any fixes, i just bulldozed the lot from my cities and deleted the file from the Plugins dir, hence good riddance!

[Tolomar 5]

run across quite a few lots that do this too many to list...there is a way to fix the lot...but personelly I don't know how

[mrbisonm 1,620]

In cases like this, the best thing to do is open the lotfile with the Plugin-manager and find out its dependencies. Once you know these, make a search on the STEX.

If this doesn't help, try contacting (pm) the creator, he will probably help you out.

 

I don't have the lot in my plugin yet (had computer problems,have to download all those 1500 lots again...geeez) otherwise I would have a look for what it needs as props to show up properly.

 

Good Luck.