Is demand for commercial indeed that low?

[DabblerNL 3]

I like to create my maps with a kind of historic developmemt in it: small villages clustered around roundabouts (I miss a church!) or alongside riverbanks, that then later get gobbled up by the larger modern buildings. In each village I like to include some petty shops. But I noticed that demand for commercial zones is very low: less than 10% of my zones is commercial, while residential and industry/offices are about equal in size. This leads to the commercial zones never developping or getting abondoned. Is this by design? It strikes me that due to the low demand for commercial zones industry must export it goods as there is hardly an inner market.

[Ocram's Razr 963]

Some say that there is too much commercial for the population. The needs for jobs can be taken care of by offices or you can have an export economy.

--Ocram

[stuaz 1]

Do you have a lot of parks? I *think* parks take some of the commercial demand, at least from a tourist point of view.

[DabblerNL 3]

I do indeed have lots of parks. I like to center buildings around a square with a park or plaza in the middle.

[simonmd 6]

It seems to be a known bug that once you start to grow, commercial demand (the blue bar) seems to stagnate. I believe the Devs are looking into this. 

 

Check out the graph for my city. As you can see, the commercial demand grinds to a halt around 2026 and stays the same even when the rest of the city keeps growing!

 

 

[jesper107 113]

Check out this mod on the official forums for a fix!

 

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?844425-MOD-In-Testing-Remove-Parks-From-Directly-Impacting-Commercial-Demand

[zimmie 521]

Its definitely the parks. I too had a ton of parks in a fairly big city (45k) for C:SL standards but It was mostly all offices and residential - never any demand for commercial.

 

As soon as I heard about the parks (becuase of tourism) satisfying the commercial demand, then I deleted all of my parks and the commercial demand bar went from nothing to maxed out instantly. Of course you need to have some alternative parks with no toursim to replace your default parks as you do this or it will cause a lot of problems in a hurry (land value, abandonment, etc). It's best to replace them as you delete them for a smooth transition.

 

The developers are looking into it as a possible fix in the first update according to their faq.

[DabblerNL 3]

So, how do I place "touristless" parks then?

[zimmie 521]

You can make your own or there have been replacement parks uploaded on the steam workshop.

 

I forgot which ones that I got specifically, but a quick search found these (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197971716316/myworkshopfiles/?appid=255710&p=2).

[BLANKBLANK 4,414]

Check out this mod on the official forums for a fix!

 

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?844425-MOD-In-Testing-Remove-Parks-From-Directly-Impacting-Commercial-Demand

 

I have tested this mod and it indeed works. I can place all the parks I ever want and commercial demand is now normal.