missing props and buildings

[starmodem 47]

When I plopped the lots there were all the flags on both sides of the road but when I reopened the city, in the same session, the flags on the right had disappeared. I tried to restart SC4 but the flags were still missing

 

[Superbacon 380]

Never had flags before myself.

Go back to the file where you downloaded it and look to see if there were any dependencies you missed.

 

If not, then it's probably your graphic settings. A lot of things down there look like an 8-bit video game. Ramp up your settings and see if that works.

[starmodem 47]

I have this problem with other lots too, and if there are missing dependancies the flags shouldn't appear either to the left side of the road because the two lots are equal

[Superbacon 380]

In that case it's probably your graphics settings. Set them to a higher quality and see what happens. If not then I can't think of anything else to help you.

[starmodem 47]

yes, I setted the graphic options to maximum and the flags reappared 

[starmodem 47]

 the problem isn't solved, these are some examples of lots I plopped that disappeared (also props) when I reopened the city in the same session

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

What changed between the two instances?  I suggest you close the game and boot your machine.  Things don't disappear on their own.

[starmodem 47]

I bought a new PC and restarted from scratch to build the city, going forward I noticed that some lots and props have begun to disappear. After some tests I understood that the problem begins when the city file exceeds the dimension of about 42MB, how is it possible?

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

My largest city with a population over 800K Sims and pretty much all land occupied takes only around 15MB.  How did you ever get a city that size on disk?

 

Anyway, if your city is on disk you may be running out of disk space altogether and are losing extents.  When was the last time you defragmented your disk drives? 

 

Disk storage is not infinite and there is a problem in NTFS which makes it even less so.  If you run out of slots in the Master File Table (MFT) funny things like this can happen.  The defragmentation program helps to correct this, and should be run weekly.  What size is your disk drive?

[starmodem 47]

I don't know why the file is so big, maybe because I downloaded a lot of plugins and so I don't use any Maxis building, the worst thing is that I built only half of the city.

 

My PC has Windows 8.1 which automatically defragments the disk (452GB) weekly.

[pjk64 6]

This is just a guess, but I have seen similar issues in other games when loading far too many custom HD models for a given gfx video card. With a 42MB city, you may have exceeded your card's abilities and it's cropping that which it can't render. Try unloading a bunch of 'stuff' and see if what's left renders properly or not.

 

Alternately, some content providers actually supply low density models in addition to the HD models. If you have that option, try using more low D models when available.

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

That's a point.  Also, it may be possible that your tables in memory are being trimmed because you have overflowed them.  How big is your Plugin suite on disk?  How many files are there?  Do you have a very long load time (more than five minutes)?

 

If you have the current NAM (Windows only), it should have applied the 4GB patch which raises the memory limit for user programs to 3GB from 2GB for 32-bit programs.  However, I don't think the O/S can page this application in the true virtual memory sense.  It's either in memory or not, and doesn't use a proper backing store.

[starmodem 47]

I was used to play in windowed mode for my convenience, but playing in full screen mode the problem seems solved, maybe because in windowed mode my PC uses integrated graphics card, which is very bad, but in full screen mode it can use the better one 

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

Windowed mode does add some serious overhead.  That may be the problem, but beware of continuing to add plugins.  You seem to be hovering around the limits.  Using DATpacker won't help this problem if you are running out of table space.

[starmodem 47]

Now I can plop the buildings but if I build a road or an avenue or any type of network some buildings disappear, I don't understand why 

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

Seems to be a problem unique to you.  I wish we had the source for this program, but we don't.  If you have a dump in your Exception Reports folder, please post only the first 20 lines and we'll see if anything shows up in the prefix.  The rest of the dump is garbage.

[T Wrecks 10,209]

Sounds like the prop pox to me.

[starmodem 47]

Seems to be a problem unique to you.  I wish we had the source for this program, but we don't.  If you have a dump in your Exception Reports folder, please post only the first 20 lines and we'll see if anything shows up in the prefix.  The rest of the dump is garbage.

The latest exception report is two months old, before the problem occurred, anyway these are the first lines:

 

Exception time: 03/20/2014, at 15:56:53.

Exception code: 0xC0000005 (-1073741819) ACCESS_VIOLATION.

Current thread ID: 7664 (0x00001df0).

Version information:

Application/module path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Origin Games\SimCity 4 Deluxe Edition\Apps\SimCity 4.exe

Application/module version name: SimCity 4

Application/module version: 1.1.641.0

System version: Windows NT 6.2

System memory: 3972 Megabytes total, 788 Megabytes free.

 

Exception module:  C:\Program Files (x86)\Origin Games\SimCity 4 Deluxe Edition\Apps\SimCity 4.exe.

Exception address: 0x0065ee40. Section:Offset: 0x01:0x00257e40.

 

Registers

   EAX: 0018f7a0

   EBX: 0018f7a4

   ECX: 00000000

   EDX: 000000c1

   ESI: 00000000

   EDI: 1ed4759c

   CS:EIP: 0023:0065ee40

   SS:ESP: 002b:0018f768  EBP:0018f79f

   DS:002b  ES:002b  FS:0053  GS:002b

   Flags: 00210246

[starmodem 47]

the last mods I installed are: NAM 32, JPN Sidewalk Mod Addon for Wide Radius Curves and Roundabouts and

[SimRico 968]

Seems to be a problem unique to you.  I wish we had the source for this program, but we don't.  If you have a dump in your Exception Reports folder, please post only the first 20 lines and we'll see if anything shows up in the prefix.  The rest of the dump is garbage.

 

 

Now I can plop the buildings but if I build a road or an avenue or any type of network some buildings disappear, I don't understand why 

Ive just experience the same thing but i dont know if the roads around it were the culprit.    All "TALL" buildings in my game sudently dissapeared or corrupted.  only the base remain. (thats where ive been, cleaning up plugins, trying to save the game and not lose my history in the event it was a corrupted saved city version - and rollig back, but its not)

 

ive had to go thorugh and bulldoze to get a different bldg to grow back in its place.  but the lots that were impacted are gone.  even when i plop the bldg, its gone.  Ive tried reintalling the lot from a download but the reinstalled lot doesnt reappear . 

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

The dump shows the downloaded version of the game on Windows 8.  Pretty normal and the usual type of crash.

 

There was a suggestion of Prop Pox, which could be something worth looking into.  I am unaware of any fix once you have this disease.  Seems to be mainly caused by overloading your plugins.

[SimRico 968]

The dump shows the downloaded version of the game on Windows 8.  Pretty normal and the usual type of crash.

 

There was a suggestion of Prop Pox, which could be something worth looking into.  I am unaware of any fix once you have this disease.  Seems to be mainly caused by overloading your plugins.

I think the latter part of what youve said may just be it!   I have over the lmited size in my plugins where LotEditor wont load.  I will do a sweep and chec out that PropPox link too.

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

Both of you should check out Rivit's SC4DataNode program as well.

[SimRico 968]

I will look into the program tonight

[starmodem 47]

I plopped some buildings with all graphic settings to the minimum, when I reopen the city still with the graphics to the minimum some buildings disappear, but if I open with the graphic settings to the maximum everything seems to work fine, we'll see if this is the solution

I will look into the program tonight

me too