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I cant believe I missed this CJ! A little after your old CJ died, I had left simtrop, but when I came back last week, I forgot that you were making a new one. Im so glad I came across this because I loved your old CJ, and am starting to do the same with this one. I just love how your cities are planned out, and everything seems to fit into place.

Keep up the awesome work35.gif35.gif35.gif

EDIT: btw, where did you get those freeway signs in your last update? I'd been searching for something like that forever to put into my CJ, but everything had to have a background to it45.gif

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Amazing detail.  I love it when people show maps and present how the city is structured.

 
I will be watching this for more update.
 
Once again excellent work!

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    ChicAgo333 - Welcome back!  I attached the Interstate sign below, you know how to make the background transparent, right?

     
     
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    I accidentally cut off a little bit of the left side, probably needs some touching up. 

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    Wow, I love how your highway winds through your terrain. But also your building style in general.

    - Phil

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    <ahttp://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3903/into1copy0md.jpg align=baseline>
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    The Strip District, sandwiched between Downtown, and Old Warsaw, gets its name from the thin strip of retail stores, and office buildings that line State Street, Federal Street, and Parade Avenue.  With a population of 120,000, it is the second largest district in the city, ranking just behind the denser Downtown district.
     
     
     
     
     
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    The Strip District stretches from 22nd Street (on the south), to 58th Street (on the north) - And from Barker Avenue (on the west), to Cherry Street (on the east - not shown on map).
     
     
     
      
     
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    In the early 1900's retail business was making a steady retreat from Old Warsaw.  Forced out by high taxes, expensive real estate, and developable land in short supply, Middle class shop owners began building and relocating to the city's booming northern suburbs.  This exodus was in part, aided by the completion of the Parade Street Elevated Line in 1911.
     
    Now stretching from the very northern tip of the island (Glenwood Hills), to the southern tip (Old Warsaw), the original line was only a quarter-mile long.  Though short in distance, it enabled Warsaw's residents to live, work, and shop further away from the city's center.
     
     
     
     
     
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    In the early part of the century, Warsaw's business leaders were divided into two sects: Downtowners, and Uptowners.  The Downtowners were the city's elite.  A privileged group of Bankers, Investors, and Factory owners, they were few in number but had considerable financial clout.  Bakers, Butchers, and Shoe peddlers, the Uptowners on the other hand, were peasants by comparison. 
     
    In 1919 when the IPE (International Petroleum Exchange) made the announcement that their new Exchange Building would be built not in the Financial District, but in the less classy Strip District, a huge political firestorm erupted.  Downtowners spent months lobbying to have the exchange constructed downtown, but although they could offer prestige, they couldnt match the Strip District's offer of cheap, open land. 
     
    In the end, the Uptowners succeeded in landing the IPE, and Old Warsaw's days as the city's financial center came to a abrupt close.
     
     
     
     
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    Four streets: Petroleum Street, Parkland Blvd, North Petroleum Street, and Olympic Drive cut through the Strip District on a diaganal.  Petroleum Street (shown above) runs from the industrial docks (to the southeast), to Culbertson Park (to the northwest)
     
     
     
     
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    To the west of the International Petroleum Exchange, Petroleum Street dwindles down to a one way street.  Petroleum Street ends shortly after passing Culbertson Park (shown above).
     
    On a side note: Exchange Street has no connection to the IPE, it's actually named for the Mississippi Cotton Exchange located further north, in downtown.
     
     
     
     

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    Great update. I like your road layout, it is very realistic. And the explanations are great, they add a realistic background and character to the city (which is what I'm looking for in a CJ). Well done rob_2616.

    I also like that you use mainly low-rise buildings.

    - Phil

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    Awesome update once again! I love your work!

    About the sign, no, I do not know how to make the background transparent, that's the big problem 34.gif (if you could tell me how?)

    Keep up the good work44.gif

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    Nice update about the Strip District. Seems you have a special way of zoning, I see all very small sized zones of different densities alternating through your Strip District.
    I enjoy reading the background information that you include in your updates.

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    <ahttp://img84.imageshack.us/img84/4849/strip2acopy7kq.jpg align=baseline>

     
    In honor of the 100th anniversary of the Modern Olympic Games, Athens, Greece had been the odds on favorite to host the 1996 Summer Olympics.  However, because Athens could not make the needed city infrastructure improvements by the set deadline, Warsaw, Mississippi was selected instead in a surprise vote by the IOC.  Beating out Toronto, Manchester, Melbourne, Belgrade, and Athens, Warsaw was indeed an unexpected choice. 
     
    Though plagued with traffic jams, and overshadowed by the August 3rd Warsaw Federal Building bombing which killed 1,200, the Warsaw Games was the most financially profitable Olympic Games to date.
     
     
     
     
     
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    The Warsaw Olympic Development Committee stirred controversy in December of 1991 when they voted construct the city's Olympic centerpiece, the Millennium Dome, in the heavily blighted Strip District neighborhood.  Although critics argued that the poverty stricken Strip District would leave visitors and tourists with a bad impression of the city, realistically, the Committee had no other logical choice.  It had already been predetermined that 90% of the Olympic venues would be held downtown, on the island, and no other district could offer the amount of land that was needed for such a massive project.  The  WODC pushed ahead, eventually choosing a 400 acre industrial brownfield to house the Stadium and Olympic Plaza.  Located on the eastern fringe of the Strip District, the property boasted a quarter-mile of water frontage, and abutted the Lowlands Highway, providing relatively easy access.  Construction on the stadium began in 1993, and was completed eight months before the opening cerememonies. 
     
    The Millenium Dome is now the home of the NFL's Warsaw AeroRaiders.
     
     
     
     
     
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    Olympic Park Drive is the Stadium's only exit/entrance onto the Lowlands Highway (shown lower right).  Though it is currently suitable to handle traffic for the neighborhood, as well as Stadium events, the lone exit/entrance was the main cause of hour long traffic jams that plagued the 96 Olympic Games.
     
     
     
     

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    ChicAgo333 - To make stuff transparent, when you paste your graphic on top of the main image click the transparent button (shown below on MSPaint).  Make sure your graphic's background is completely white, or else it won't be completely transparent.
     
     
     
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    Hope that helps.
     
    I have no idea how to do this in Photoshop... sorry.  42.gif

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    Hello, nice work.

    I like those amazing intersections. I am kinda new to this modding world, but I would like to know, how did you make those nice avenue intersections.
    -Road running into the bend of the avenue.
    -Avenue running diagonally from a simpel road.

    And I ve always wanted to ask, how can you make two one way road become an avenue?


    Good ol' Liberty Islands! Someday, I'll repost my old CJ.

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    bokrif - The answer to all of those questions is: The Network Addon Mod.  Check out Simtrop's mod section, you can find it there.

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    Is it just that simple? NAM? Great. Thx.


    Good ol' Liberty Islands! Someday, I'll repost my old CJ.

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    <ahttp://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3858/8acopy3tw.jpg align=baseline>

    Olympic Park Plaza, a residential development consisting of 11, 21 story buildings, and 1, 25 story building, was built on the site of the former Olympic Plaza which had been razed in 1998 - two years after the summer games.
     
    Sandwiched between Parkland Blvd. and Olympic Drive, Olympic Park Plaza is the largest residential development in the Strip District.
     
    One Olympic Park Plaza (the building on the far right), has amazing views of Warsaw's eastern suburbs across the Black River.  It is also the tallest building in the development.
     
    The Lowlands Highway can also be seen in the photo above.
     
     
     
      
     
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    Directly south of Olympic Park Plaza, is the Olympic Yacht Club.  The Yacht Club was also built on the former Olympic grounds, and is one of the cities most prestigious marinas.
     
     
     
     
      
     
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    Shown above is the southern pier of the Olympic Yacht Club.
     
    Also shown above is the Lowlands Highway as it crosses over the Grundy Canal.
     
     
     
     

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    Really great work, rob. 

    Great work on getting a group of the same buildings to appear all near each other.  It really gives a realistic look of public housing.  The yacht club looks outstanding, and I like the look of that canal that empties near it.  I'm curious, though, what highway bridge did you use to span the canal?  I don't recognize it.


     

     

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    meinhosen - Thanks for the compliments.  I think the Highway Bridge is the green steel-truss bridge.  I'm guessing you probably didnt recognize it because it's so short that the steel trusses didnt show up.

     

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    Nice update once again, I like the use of those seawalls..really makes the waterfront look good 35.gif

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    Nice job on them sea walls44.gif

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    <ahttp://img306.imageshack.us/img306/9431/1ecopy1xw.jpg align=baseline>
     
     
    The Strip District is by no means a prestigious place to live.  It's crowded, dirty, and crime ridden.  The roar of traffic is inescapable, and the few parks throughout the district have been taken over by drug dealers.  However, although the Strip District shares many of the same problems facing Old Warsaw, the Strip has at least begun to see a small revival.  Despite the Strip's tarnished image, several renegade developers have taken advantage of the district's cheap real estate prices, and close proximity to downtown, creating a neighborhood that is increasingly bohemian.
     
    3300 Commonwealth Avenue is one of a growing number of large Condominium Buildings that have been built in the Strip during the past decade.
     
     
     
     
     
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    The Grudny Canal, built in the late 1800's to drain the soggy delta soil in which Warsaw was built upon, was at one time the worst neighborhood in the city.  Until the 1970's environmental regulations were enacted, the canal had been laced with sewage, and rendered unnavigable due to a century thick layer of garbage.
     
    The canal is still a diamond in the rough, however some up-scale development has occurred in the immediate neighborhood, such as the Kline Tower on 27th & Federal Street.
     
           
     

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    44.gifnice updates! really great work!

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    The Strip District doesn't look dirty to me, actually looks very nice 3.gif

    Great update, looking forward to more 44.gif

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    Great work! I like the long distances of no statio on your eltrain (me I always tend to overload them a bit) and your general mix of big and small streets. I just don't like that you sometimes turn highways to avenues and then put a intersection on them ... but that's just ONE detail!!!

    I like the last pic with SimGoober's kanals!

    BTW: Can you show us a region view?

    Great work!

    Nardo 44.gif

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    ChicAgo333 - I guess I've been showing the better parts of the Strip.  In my next update I'll throw in a few pics of the slummier sections.
     
    Nardo69 - Concerning the at grade intersections, the Lowlands Highway isnt really a Federal Highway, it's supposed to be more of a limited access city road.  The at grade intersections were put in where an exit/entrance was needed but there just wasnt enough room to build an on/off ramp.
     
    I-10, I-59, I-62, and I-362, will all be federal highways, that strictly use on/off ramps.
     
     
     
    And.. here are those region views!

     
     
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    Great use of the brick canals. I love your road layout and the names. Great work.

    - Phil

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    Nice updates, region view and transport map starting to look great.

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    <ahttp://img203.imageshack.us/img203/9282/update3b1copy2ag.jpg align=baseline>

     
    Parkland Blvd., one of the Strip's busiest streets, crosses through the eastern section of the district.
     
    Also visable in the photo above, lower left corner, are two of the Olympic Park Plaza towers.
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Lippo I & II, built in 2000 on the former Olympic grounds, are the tallest buildings in the district.  Though Lippo I (44 stories), and Lippo II (48 stories) both have less than impressive occupancy percentages, the office complex is still a shining example of the Strip's economic revival.
     
     
     
     
     
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    Continuing north, Parkland Blvd. passes through some of the districts roughest neighborhoods.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Parkland Blvd (shown above, lower right) ends at 51st Street, emptying out in Browlin Park.
     
     
      
     
     
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    An aerial shot of the Strip provides excellent views of the Millennium Dome, Olympic Park Plaza, Olympic Yacht Club, the International Petroleum Exchange, the Lowlands Highway, and of course on the left, you can see you district's signature Strip of retail businesses. 
     
     
     

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    great work! the pics are really nice here! 44.gif

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