BAT-Artists -- Out of new Ideas?

[S.A.C 20]

Loaded my old SC3KU/WE and took a closer look at my custom files.  Perhaps some of them can function as an inspiration to those of you talented BAT-artists out there in need of new great ideas!

This first image is a commercial BAPlus.  It was made using two 5x5 lots put together to form one large commercial tile for a downtown area in SimCity 3000 U/WE;

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The two highrised buildings on the commercial department store concrete roof are both residential buildings.  And the complex itself is based on a real-life building from the city of Orebro, Sweden.  The real name; Kr

[DuskTrooper 316]

Looks awesome! Got anymore?

In fact, if anyone has any good 3k BAT/BAP/BArenderer pics, it would be great if you posted them here!

[blaze 0]

Wow that looks pretty kool

[S.A.C 20]

Sure, I got lots of them!  I made quite many BAPlus/SC3URK-files at that time!  Here's a completely different lot - although as important as the first one in order to visualize a realistic city;



This is, as can tell, a busdepot which was made for the first Expo Scandinavia ever taking place in the SC3KU/WE version of Olympia.  I had several BAPlus-artists along with Maxis employees writing their own fictional story's related to a certain building/block from the city of Olympia! The lot itself was made of four 5x5 lots, making it as huge as 10x10 in the game!

I wouldn't mind seing a BAT-version of this - or at least any kind of a busdepot for the sake of realism!

[vester_DK 477]

Yes we need some bus terminal/garage.

[S.A.C 20]

And while at the transportation theme, here is one of several different trams and tramstops - and even tram to busstop transitions - which was made for the only tram system ever running in a SC3KU/WE city!  But of course, we're talking about Olympia here! ;

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This is a 3x3 lot, mainly consisting of custom props!  Still, it added a lot of realism to my Olympia!

[S.A.C 20]

An example of a commercial offices building, based upon a SimCity 2000 SCURK by Tom Nillesen;



Could fit very well in SC4 if you ask me!

Anyway, time to hit the bed!  More inspirational ideas for you BATters out there tomorrow!

[tchntm43 0]

Wow, nice remake of the Tom Nillesen tile. You must have been from way back in the day. If you went by a different name back then and were active on the sc3000.com site, I might have known you.

On that subject, how about some Lee Sojot remakes? Or Wren Weburg or Stephen McGlen? :-)

-Justin Smith
(another old SCURKer from that time)

[S.A.C 20]

Date: 8/28/2005 12:06:19 AM Author: tchntm43 Wow, nice remake of the Tom Nillesen tile. You must have been from way back in the day. If you went by a different name back then and were active on the sc3000.com site, I might have known you. On that subject, how about some Lee Sojot remakes? Or Wren Weburg or Stephen McGlen? :-) -Justin Smith (another old SCURKer from that time)

I changed it to S.A.C eventually but that must have been somewhere around 1998.  Can't remember what I used before that.  And you should remember my name as I was active on the sc3000.com site, but then again - it's a while ago!   Perhaps it comes back to you if you remember Les Freeman?  He eventually put all his work with SCURK Mountain Home and the SCURK Library in my hands and former Gothia!  Still, I do remember you though!

Speaking of Stephen McGlen, you do know that he's here as well?

Moving on; Just as with SC4 today there was an urge to give SC3KU/WE a more European feel among some BAPpers.  Especially I myself did what I could to create both commercial and residential buildings with a European touch for my city.  Here's a 5x5 commercial block for the downtown area;



A large department store in other words!

[S.A.C 20]

This one is interesting, because to my knowledge it's one of few that exists as both a SC4 version and a SC3KU version - along with the orginal made in SCURK for SC2K - if not the only one!  I'm sure some of you may recognize it;



Although not needed to be BATted I still thought it could be nice to show it!

[Cjah 15]

I never had the honor to play Sc3000 but it looks like I missed alot of stuff.I guess maybe I shouldn't have spent 6 years playing Sc2000....

Anyway anyone of those Bap's(? I'm not too sure if thats how they were called)would be an awesome addon to SC4 even that tram station looks better then some of the stuff we got(No offense to the GLR people or any tram lovers...) right now...

 

So hopefully more baters will learn from the bapers....(if thats how they were called)

[choco1 4]

nice buildings, I miss SC3k too! I would like to see some of these in simcity 4.

[S.A.C 20]

Date: 8/28/2005 8:27:15 AM Author: Cjah

I never had the honor to play Sc3000 but it looks like I missed alot of stuff.I guess maybe I shouldn't have spent 6 years playing Sc2000....

Anyway anyone of those Bap's(? I'm not too sure if thats how they were called)would be an awesome addon to SC4 even that tram station looks better then some of the stuff we got(No offense to the GLR people or any tram lovers...) right now...

So hopefully more baters will learn from the bapers....(if thats how they were called)

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In fact, most of the SC2K SCURKers never gotten around to move onto SC3K, let alone doing stuff for the game!  Among those who actually did a few buildings was the well known excellent SCURK artist Lee Sojot!  It should be common knowledge to recognize such an artist within the SimCity community!

Found some more BAPlus lots referring to the Tram Transportation Theme.  I made several different ones to be used in my city, mostly by adding different buses and/or changing the surroundings slightly - along with the actual track pieces that is!  And as mentioned before, the tram system in Olympia was the only tram system ever implemented in SC3K - yet only a visual thing for the sake of realism!;









All of them produced for the Expo Scandinavia's Transportation Exhibit!

[S.A.C 20]

Okey, don't want to spam my own thread, but since there are quite a lot of images to post I prefer to make new posts for them!

Another thing that SC3KU lacked was European residential buildings.  At least Scandinavian ones!  So, to somewhat solve that I made a number of them for the final Expo Scandinavia's Exhibit; Livin'2002 - the final exhibition before I moved onto SC4 instead!

Below is a typical Swedish residential housing.  It's a 3-lot compilation, (3x3), making it a 3x9 tile in total;



Still, I do believe that SC4 lacks a lot of typical European residential buildings!  Perhaps this one can serve as an idea!

[debussyman 1,349]

This is so impressive, so many memories... I never modded my SC3k, I tried on the BAApp but I totally sucked on it. I never downloaded anything, I really dont know why, I mean, never got curious about entering sc3k custom content pages, neither I knew about the existance of them. I would have liked to know back then...

[S.A.C 20]

Date: 8/28/2005 11:44:41 AM Author: debussyman This is so impressive, so many memories... I never modded my SC3k, I tried on the BAApp but I totally sucked on it. I never downloaded anything, I really dont know why, I mean, never got curious about entering sc3k custom content pages, neither I knew about the existance of them. I would have liked to know back then...

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I think that goes with each SimCity game!  Many of those contributing to SC2K never moved on to SC3KU - especially due to the fact that they found the new sequel lacking a lot of possibilities  - mainly considering the BAPlus tool compared to the SCURK tool!  It should be mentioned that even though the BAPlus tool made it possible for anyone to start BAPping regardless of background knowledge or anything, it still had its issues - especially when inserting custom buildings into the game, buildings that somehow looked less sharpened compared to the in-game ones!  However, this issue - for most of us - was solved once the SC3URK tool was released!  It allowed for us to work with building files in a paint program - something that made it possible to add shadows and other realistic touches to our work!

At least I used that tool a lot to improve my buildings.  Images presented within this thread are from the BAPlus tool - before I started working on them using the SC3URK tool!

Moving on, as mentioned earlier about the lack of European buildings, it was as important to add also old European buildings to the game.  One example is this 5x5 tiled building that worked as a commercial building;

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[Hanson784 165]

It's wonderful to see some of the great SCURKer's have stuck with the series throughout the years. Some are even continuing to make custom buildings for the community today. Thank you for all your wonderful creations you made for SC2000. I wonder if there is anyone else from the SCURK or BAP community here.
It's too bad Lee Sojot didn't make the transition to SC4...or maybe he did. Maybe he

[S.A.C 20]

Date: 8/28/2005 12:19:59 PM Author: Hanson784 It's wonderful to see some of the great SCURKer's have stuck with the series throughout the years. Some are even continuing to make custom buildings for the community today. Thank you for all your wonderful creations you made for SC2000. I wonder if there is anyone else from the SCURK or BAP community here. It's too bad Lee Sojot didn't make the transition to SC4...or maybe he did. Maybe he

[tchntm43 0]

S.A.C., now that you mention Sim Gothia, I remember you. Sorry 'bout that. :-)

Your SC3K BAT and BAP buildings are excellent. I tinkered with the program a little, but I got frustrated with the limitations pretty quickly. I did I few buildings with SC3URK, most notably a building from Minneapolis with reflective glass and all (I couldn't find any screenshots, unfortunately). I'm not sure why I stopped; maybe that was when Diablo 2 came out.

I am picking up with SC4 now, though (I'm late, I know). I have almost finished by 5th building, though I haven't posted any here yet.

I will look for Stephen's SC4 buildings. I remember his NYC set for SC2K being my favorite for that game.

-Justin Smith

[S.A.C 20]

Date: 8/28/2005 12:52:10 PM Author: tchntm43 S.A.C., now that you mention Sim Gothia, I remember you. Sorry 'bout that. :-) Your SC3K BAT and BAP buildings are excellent. I tinkered with the program a little, but I got frustrated with the limitations pretty quickly. I did I few buildings with SC3URK, most notably a building from Minneapolis with reflective glass and all (I couldn't find any screenshots, unfortunately). I'm not sure why I stopped; maybe that was when Diablo 2 came out. I am picking up with SC4 now, though (I'm late, I know). I have almost finished by 5th building, though I haven't posted any here yet. I will look for Stephen's SC4 buildings. I remember his NYC set for SC2K being my favorite for that game. -Justin Smith

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It's okey!  As said, it's soo many years ago since back then.  I don't think none of the following sequel communities comes even close to the activities during the SC2K-era!  Just look at all the sites that were out there!  Simply amazing!  I'm glad I was able to be part of that era - although I wasn't really part of it from the very beginning, at least not as an active member!  Like most people I lurked around and downloaded all the SCURK's I could find!

Funny you should mention the frustration with the BAT and BAPlus tool!  What most people doesn't realize is that all SCURK's were hand drawn by excellent artists out there, something that allowed them to create whatever they wanted - as long as they had the talent.  With the new BAT and the BAPlus tool all of a sudden there were limitations since an artist was limited to what the tools themselves could provide.  It became a lot easier once more people learned how to draw props using a paint program of some sort.  I know I wouldn't have been able to produce good quality buildings if I hadn't been able to draw my own props for them!  A knowledge for which I still thank CouchPotatoe!   She sure encouraged me!

Now, as I received a reply I can post yet another BAPlus image - yet another from the great exhibit Livin'2002!  This time a hotel, Hotel Expo Scandinavia!

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Again a so called multitiled lot, made out of three 5x5 lots into a 5x15 large one!  This one was also improved using the SC3URK-tool before finally placed in Olympia!

[sandrasim1 2]

This brings back a lot of memories. I would love to have those trams in SC4 if it's possible. They come from my hometown so it would be great if they could be made to work with GLR(ground light rail).
Swedish or scandinavian residential buildings are some of the things on my to-do-list when I have finished my current projects so I will probably have a go with some of these buildings or something similar later this autumn.

[toxicpiano 125]

they look like croydon trams, see the london underground sign on the station platform?

[S.A.C 20]

Date: 8/28/2005 1:05:43 PM Author: sandrasim1 This brings back a lot of memories. I would love to have those trams in SC4 if it's possible. They come from my hometown so it would be great if they could be made to work with GLR(ground light rail). Swedish or scandinavian residential buildings are some of the things on my to-do-list when I have finished my current projects so I will probably have a go with some of these buildings or something similar later this autumn.

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Your hometown?  Are you from Gothenburg too? [:0]  That's where I live - although I'm currently spending time also in

[S.A.C 20]

Date: 8/28/2005 1:08:37 PM Author: toxicpiano they look like croydon trams, see the london underground sign on the station platform?

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Well, not exactly!  The transit authority in Gothenburg used to have that symbol!  But it's close though!  

[AgentUhOh7 10]

Woah! These are AWESOME SC3k buildings! Way better than anything I created, or maybe I just can't compare, because I mostly made smaller buildings, such as my infamous Lego-themed buildings (available on the old SimCity.com exchange).

Though it was nowhere near as flexible as gmax, it sure made BATting quick and easy!

[S.A.C 20]

Date: 8/28/2005 2:31:38 PM Author: AgentUhOh7 Woah!  These are AWESOME SC3k buildings!  Way better than anything I created, or maybe I just can't compare, because I mostly made smaller buildings, such as my infamous 'Lego'-themed buildings (available on the old SimCity.com exchange). Though it was nowhere near as flexible as gmax, it sure made BATting quick and easy!

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Yeah, BATting or BAPping was quick and easy!  The time consuming part was to create paints, details, and props in order to customize the buildings even more! , and give them a personal touch to it!

My biggest project was the Notre Dame which was a challenge not only due to its size, (two 5x5 lots), but because of the block counting I had to do in order to make those two lots fit together!  Still, I managed to count wrong the first time and that resulted in the second lot to have one of the walls placed one block from the correct one!  Awful lot of work to repair that mistake!
It was the first multitiled building I ever created - and I were to create a few more after that one!

Here it is;

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[hotdonutdog 0]

why don't you guys build the pentagon located in washington, dc?

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[1dera3 29]

Played SC3KU for 3 years, never downloaded or modded a thing. Boy, was I missing out. These lots look better than some in SC4!

[vester_DK 477]

Date: 8/28/2005 4:09:50 PM
Author: hotdonutdog

why don't you guys build the pentagon located in washington, dc?

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Try do a search on Pentagon, and you will see that there is already some working on that!!!
Oppie is working on it, but he got some computer problems.

[S.A.C 20]

Date: 8/28/2005 5:11:32 PM Author: 1dera3 Played SC3KU for 3 years, never downloaded or modded a thing. Boy, was I missing out. These lots look better than some in SC4!

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Yeah well, even though SC3K was a great game, SC4 is still far better when it comes to city building!

Now, great to get a new reply allowing for me to post yet another image from the SC3K-days!



Can't say I made that many skyscrapers but a few saw the light of the day, like this Bank of America building - which is pure fictional, might I add!    And the reason for this lack of production was simple; I built a european city!  Besides, a lot of them BAPpers out there provided the official exchange with thousands of skyscrapers, so there wasn't really any more need for them!