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Will New Orleans survive Katrina ?

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It's Not looking to good for the people in N.O reports have it that damage could but in excess of 30$ billion dollars and the floods can be up to 30 feet high. I would hate to be in that Superdome right now. All we can do is hope that everything good that can happen does happen as this can get out of hand very fast. Edit: 100,000 people showed up to get into the Superdome it only fits 70,000 so there putting people on the field? are they crazy47.gif like people have said thats probaly going to flood and even if it doesnt howe are they going to maintain 100,000 people with no electricty and no water and limited food?

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First of all, the 100,000 people are scattered througout many New Orleans high-rises, second of all at the last count I'm aware of, approx. 15,000 people (according to N.O.'s CBS station) are in the Superdome, not all 100,000+ residents still within N.O. Finally, these people will probably be taken out of the flooded areas after the storm by boats and helicopters if the army decides not to blow a few holes into the levee system (which they probably will). BTW Alkoala the odds of this happening again anytime soon are very, very low, considering how a storm of this magnatude barreling through N.O. happens about once in every 500 years (according to the NOAA). Oh and for those concerned about the people in the Superdome, the army dropped off over 300,000 MRE's (U.S. army rations) around an hour ago, assuming these people eat 3 square meals a day, they should be able to last about a week before they run out of food (which probably won't happen considering that A:The people would be relocated. B:If they weren't relocated yet, the army would probably bring in more supplies by sea or air).

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175 mph is the same speed as a tornado. One of the analysts I saw on the news mentioned the possibility of airborn light automobiles. He also said that a number of the taller buildings may come down. Most other buildings will have all or nearly all of their windows blown out. The news anchor also just said they are now stating that this will likely be the most destructive storm in US history.

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I really hope New Orleans survives. I always wanted to visit it. The culture and great food and I love Cajun music. Also what would happen to Mardi Gras? 6.gif
 
Well as long as the people evacuate the city, its not that bad. The last I heard 80% of the city has evacuated. But still I don't want to lose such a great city.

 

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Look at the facts; New Orleans is about 30 feet below sea level. Its surronded by water. They're facing a 28-foot storm surge, over a foot of rain, tornadoes and winds of over 175 mph. Its only the third category five hurricane to hit the US since the beginning of records. The last one caused 67 deaths and caused over 26 billion dollars in damage. A city can't recover when its under 28 feet of water. A city can't exist when its 28 feet under water. Those are the facts. Only nature can change the facts. We can do no more.

As a side note, I had posted a thread at simtropolis months back about this exact subject.

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I believe the city can recover, after the hurricane passes over, the storm surge will lower and the pumping system for the New Oreleans area will begin pumping all the water into Lake Pochetrain. The system has the capacity to move 1in of water out of the city an hour. The city is surrounded by a leve system that can withstand a max of 22ft, if the hurricane gose just to the east of NO it is a sure thing it can survive, also a city of over 1 million just dosen't decide to leave. New Orleans has too much to leave behind, the citizens will not go on with out rebuilding.


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Date: 8/29/2005 12:49:48 AM
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I believe the city can recover, after the hurricane passes over, the storm surge will lower and the pumping system for the New Oreleans area will begin pumping all the water into Lake Pochetrain. The system has the capacity to move 1in of water out of the city an hour. The city is surrounded by a leve system that can withstand a max of 22ft
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Once the storm surge occurs, where will all the water go? New Orleans is the lowest spot in that area. Lake Pochetain will be too full to accept water. Also, the storm surge is expected to be about 28 ft, which is more than the leves can handle. It'll be a while before New Orleans fully recovers.

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They could just blow a few holes in the levees after the hurricane in this scenario, then after the water has drained back to normal sea level, they can fix the parts they dynamited and then just pump out the remaining water, and start the decontamination/rebuilding process.

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After the storm passes, gravity gose to work and pulls the water table back to normal and will return the sea level to normal, and Lake Ponchetrain, is a tide water lake (as the Mississippi River is a tide water rivere through there) it isn't like there is suddenly a mound of water there, the lake fallows the tides, fills and drains with the tides. Yes New Orleans will be under a fair amount of water (it would have made it self it's own non-tide water lake). But when the storm dose pass, the sea level will recede back to normal, it is all gravity and the laws of physics there. The water table there is far to high to have any stagnant body of water 3.gif. The pumps should be in order not long after the hurricane passes towards N. LA and S. TN. at 1in/per hour it is much easier and safer to use the cities dranage system and drain into the tide water around it.


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I sure hope those oil wells off shore nearby make it. Gas prices are high enough already.

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Date: 8/29/2005 2:45:35 AM
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I sure hope those oil wells off shore nearby make it. Gas prices are high enough already.
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I CERTAINLY second that. It costs $3.19USD per gallon for regular here, it doesn't need to get any higher.

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Reports have come in of the winds tearing two holes into the Superdome this morning in N.O.

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Date: 8/29/2005 3:16:19 AM
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Date: 8/29/2005 2:45:35 AM

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I sure hope those oil wells off shore nearby make it. Gas prices are high enough already.
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I CERTAINLY second that. It costs $3.19USD per gallon for regular here, it doesn't need to get any higher.


~Jamie~
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Get used to it. After all, the oil industry has to protect their record profits. Can't just stop making more money now, can they?

In the meantime, the Superdome has had several more holes torn in it, flood waters in greater New Orleans are rising at a foot (.3 meter) an hour. Tens of thousands will be homeless for a long time to come, many will likely lose their lives, incalculable damage will be done to the environment, and billions upon billions will be spent in relief efforts.

The rest of America will mutter a condolence under their breath, hop into their 7mpg Cadillac Escalade for a trip to the soccer field, and forget all about it until CNN, Fox, or M$NBC force-feeds them another serving of plastic concern.

At least the folks at Halliburton will be okay.

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Date: 8/29/2005 1:04:02 PM
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Date: 8/29/2005 3:16:19 AM

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Date: 8/29/2005 2:45:35 AM


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I sure hope those oil wells off shore nearby make it. Gas prices are high enough already.
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I CERTAINLY second that. It costs $3.19USD per gallon for regular here, it doesn't need to get any higher.



~Jamie~
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Get used to it. After all, the oil industry has to protect their record profits. Can't just stop making more money now, can they?


In the meantime, the Superdome has had several more holes torn in it, flood waters in greater New Orleans are rising at a foot (.3 meter) an hour. Tens of thousands will be homeless for a long time to come, many will likely lose their lives, incalculable damage will be done to the environment, and billions upon billions will be spent in relief efforts.


The rest of America will mutter a condolence under their breath, hop into their 7mpg Cadillac Escalade for a trip to the soccer field, and forget all about it until CNN, Fox, or M$NBC force-feeds them another serving of plastic concern.


At least the folks at Halliburton will be okay.

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'Gas' prices will be going up anyway. There are several refinaries in the area, and they have shut already.

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Date: 8/29/2005 1:04:02 PM Author: Oakenshield
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...The rest of America will mutter a condolence under their breath, hop into their 7mpg Cadillac Escalade for a trip to the soccer field, and forget all about it ... 
 
I'd like to think that the rest of America will do like we've done in the past for other disasters and contribute time, effort, and especially money for relief efforts.  There obviously is some exceptions, but disasters very much often bring out the best in us.
 

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hurricane katrina is now a category 1 hurricane, for those who haven't been following the news.

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It expected to be a strong tropical storm into North Missippi though.

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Date: 8/29/2005 2:00:21 PM
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I'd like to think that the rest of America will do like we've done in the past for other disasters and contribute time, effort, and especially money for relief efforts. There obviously is some exceptions, but disasters very much often bring out the best in us.

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Well, it's not really over. The wind and rain are virtually overwith in New Orleans, but they opened up a new set of problems which are unfolding. Someone mentioned that more flooding is eminent, because much of the region drains into the Mississippi.

Contamination of both the flood water and drinking water is already confirmed. They are telling residents of the city to wait at least a week before returning because of this.

The hurricane that hit the city in 1965 stirred up all the local fire ants and water moccasins (poisonous snakes). I read that water moccassins killed more people in that hurricane than wind and flooding combined. It has been predicted that water moccasins will be a big problem for those already in New Orleans and those returning.

This is all before anyone starts to clean anything up. The flooding has not even stopped yet. I hope it doesn't get any worse and that everyone stays safe down there.

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Just glancing it looks like Tennessee, Kentucky, southern Indiana, Ohio, and Canada (Montreal?) are on the projected path.   Currently the winds are 75 mph.

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An oil drilling platform broke away from its moorings and lodged under a bridge that carries U.S. Highway 98 over the Mobile River.

Wow.

 
 
 

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Hurricanes die out very quickly, by the time it gets to Canada atleast we expect nothing but rain and mild winds.
As for New Orleans, it's problems have just begun, it was spared a bit, the hurricane shifted east a tad, but it's still got massive problems. Flooding has caused massive problems and probably destroyed many homes. Also it has made the water pretty much untouchable, it's full of bacteria and stuff now from sewers overflowing. The city may live through this, but how long will it be before the city can be habitted again, and how many citizens will return? It'll take a hell of a lot of work to clean that city up, I guess all we can do is sit back and wait.

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With all those off oil wells shut down in the gulf, we are already having gas shortages in the Detroit area. 40% of our gas comes from there. The price of gas went up 30 cents in one day, to $3/gallon. Now its a relief just to have gas, no matter what the price.

Too bad Google Earth doesnt show pictures in real time, so people can see if thier house made it through the hurricane.

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I Don't Think Google Will be Able To Update New Orleans. Coz I Think they temporary Lost Communications, And Still No Power.
Even There Is Power, I Don't Think Its A Good Idea To Touch The Water *shockz*

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Date: 8/31/2005 3:27:15 AM
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I Don't Think Google Will be Able To Update New Orleans. Coz I Think they temporary Lost Communications, And Still No Power.

Even There Is Power, I Don't Think Its A Good Idea To Touch The Water *shockz*
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Your conclusion is that because there is no power in a city, a plane or a satellite will be unable to take a photo of it47.gif. Oh, and you're only meant to capitalise words at the begginning of a sentance.21.gif

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This is terrible news. The aftermath of Katrina is even worse than her initial efects. The causeway is almost gone, the superdome is being evacuated, levees are breaking, looting is widespread and water levels are rising. I hope people living in the smaller towns like Biloxi and Gulfport that were in the direct path of the hurricane are able to escape. It was a good thing that Baton Roge was not severely affected. I'm wondering why didnt offcials did not use buses to transport people without cars out of New Orleans. But I have a few questions on the situation in New Orleans. Is the CBD flooded? What about the French Quater?  Is the area around the superdome flooded too? The last I heard, these areas were spared and only the neighbourhoods were affected but after hearing that so many levees broke, I wonder if these areas are still dry...

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Whoa, the superdome is still standing, and the water level is at rooftop.

Ma8thew: Sorry, my english isn't that good, and about the capital thing, its a bad habit sorry.

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