SimWings BAT Projects Thread

[xiziz 11]

Muzzy: Yeah, me too, even if ive already built 2 of them ^^

kaji: Its not far of now(how many times have i not said that now...)

SimWings Team: What is everyone working on right now, and what is the current level of compleation, or is everyone just on hold for now???

All: Ive taken my test now, and made it! so as soon as i get some time(should be durin next week) il have the pack worked up and released!!!
Even if it will only contain the
-AP v2.1
-MATP
-Muzzy's Tower

But its a good start anyway!
Ive invited Blahdy to join us, seeing as he's started BATing now, and Texturing, hes made a lot of nice Taxiway textures, and some Runway Approachlighting rigs and such, Radartowers. They could spice up the pack quite a lot ^^ im yet to get a clear answer though, but he isnt finished with the models yet, and i know he is waiting to release them before they are finished. and i just think for the end-user, its a lot easier to keep track of one constantley updating pack(like the NAM) than to have to hassle with loads of different downloads.

Im also starting the Process of writing a readme, since well need one of them.

Cheers
//Sim

[xiziz 11]

Modding of SWAP 2.2 is complete!

Im writing a readme as we speak, and will withng shortly get a Supportpage for the SWAP up, then release it onto the STEX!

Expect it to be up within a few days...

Some ingame piccies... yeah, il adjust the 707, its a bit to far from the Jetway ^^ and its a very, very croweded airport this one... some 237(the sign reads wrong... i misstyped... its 0200 here ^^






Now, im expecting some prittey large airports from you once this is released!... a 4 large tile airport anyone? ^^

[MishaTennis 1]

Good progress, it'll be a good addition. Maybe adding a little more glass and detail to the airport would make it even better!

[allan_kuan1992 6]

Hmm... nice, but there is a small problem...

 

Most modern terminals have more glass and metal and are more unique than these... the current terminals look kinda dull... Maybe make a few extra terminals with more glass and metal cladding... it might look even nicer then...

 

Otherwise from that... this pack is going to be a hit when it reaches the STEX!  Nice work!

 

Allan

[Weird 0]

Great Work!

This will be a wonderful addition to the game!

Can't wait!!

[allan_kuan1992 6]

Here are some ideas that the SimWings team could use for modern terminals in their (modular) airport pack (just ideas and inspiration):

 

Kansai International Airport: (Found on Google; website seems nonexsistent, but anyway... )

 

Toronto Pearson International Airport:

Website obtained: http://www.gtaa.com/

 

 

I give credit to GTAA and the photographers of these photos.

 

More images of Kansai International Airport can be found at Google.

More images of Toronto Pearson International Airport can be found at Google and GTAA's Website. There are many taxi photos in the search, though...

 

Allan

[xiziz 11]

Thanks for all the feedback, The Modular lots are very concreety because of a bug i found with the glass, having a glass roof that shows a glasswall will result in this area becoming black(not seethrough). that is tha main reason for the lower amount of glass. Also, these arent supposed to be modern terminals, there from an era long gone. i have some Glasspeices for the Modular pack in planing stage too.

The Terminals shown above are Modular, hence you build your own. there not supposed to be very uniqe(as almost all terminals in the world are uniqe, because of the specific needs of the airport).

I Am Planning to BAT a few Terminals based on RL Terminals, though ive put it on hold for the moment, a couple of other SW-members were also working on terminals, and im awating status reports from them.

Personally i thought id make:
Arlanda(North & Soulth)
Heatrow (T5 & Sattelites)

But not exact replecas mind you, just terminals based of those designs. As i dont like to work in a confined area, i like to be able to make things my way. but as im quite short of time ATM i havnt even goten to make the final touches on SWAP 2.2, wich i was planning to have on the Stex by now, long time ago. still some release-speced things left to do.

Hope this answerd all questions

Cheers
//Sim

[allan_kuan1992 6]

The pictures were just ideas for your terminals.  

Anyway, most questions were answered. Thanks.

 

 The glass problem might be corrected by adding  columns and support beams for the sides of the terminal. A steel roof with skylights is also feasible...

There are many solutions in addition to making the terminal very concretty.

 

 Maybe you can build two new modern terminals and their adjoining extension pieces out of the designs above for more variety in the modular airport pack. Yes, I know this pack is modular... I already knew that since the beginning of the project.

 

Allan

[Dupontfan24 0]

xiziz: I'd be willing to helpout in any way with the SW team, I have the LE and a real good picture editing program that I could use to make stuff for you guys.  my bat won't open so I can't make bats but I'll be happy to make lots for ya'll. If you want my help PM me.

[allan_kuan1992 6]

Here are some more pictures of modern-day airports (just for ideas and inspiration):

Hong Kong International Airport:

Website: http://www.hongkongairport.com/eng/

 

Credit goes to the Hong Kong International Airport.

Hope this gives you some ideas to building modern terminals

 

Allan

[toxicpiano 125]

I HAVE RESURFACED!!!!

thanks, these are really nice airports, especially toronto pearsom, which ive actually been to. But i dont remember because i was 8. But what i do remember was very nice...

[kaji 0]

thats excellent news TP!!!

i wonder what project you'll be working on first *win wink nudge nudge*

 

hope to see some of your awesome work soon

 

 

[toxicpiano 125]

yes i wonder?

[xiziz 11]

Date: 10/21/2005 8:05:40 PM
Author: Dupontfan24
xiziz: I'd be willing to helpout in any way with the SW team, I have the LE and a real good picture editing program that I could use to make stuff for you guys. my bat won't open so I can't make bats but I'll be happy to make lots for ya'll. If you want my help PM me.

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Atm, its the Bat moddels we need, but as Bat Models are finished we will probaly need somene good to make LOT's for all the buildings, as its the Lots that represents the Bat buildings ingame, a crap lot will make the bat crap. As my models use up the inire lot there wasnt much need for anything to be done on the lots. But maby some of the other members have something that needs a lot.

But keep coming back here and let us know when you se a bat inwork that you would like to create a lot for

allan_kuan1992:
Aslong as the inside of the windows arnt visible from the outside its okay. so its possible to make vary glassy structures, especially if you make them with a low opacity.
Thanks for all the pictures, they could come in handy. Might just fuel someone to actually show something for you people

TP Great news! Welcome back to the surface! Are you currently working on something?
The same gose for all SW-Teamies, is there anythig under development right now? Im planing to send out a PM soon to everyone. just to see whats happening. Il write one up once i have a readable readme to attach, so everyone can okay it!

Cheers
//Sim

[bmag_20 61]

I know this could probably go in the BAT Request Thread, but since some other ideas seem to be floating around I thought I'd share my thoughts. All these terminals and pictures are amazing, i've been to many of them, however, they are all on the larger international scale. My regions are all fairly rural with only a few urban centres ever being larger than 80,000. I have been on the search for a smaller terminal, for a regional airport. For now I have been using Oppies Train Station as it it closest to the size i am looking for.

Anyways... Just something I thought I would suggest for any future projects you guys look at getting into.
Oh and If you are looking for some very knowledgeable people who have been using GMax for airport related stuff for a while, check out a Microsoft Flight Simulator based site. I used to be really into that program and the stuff that some of those scenery designers are pumping out is crazy! check them out. All done with Gmax

London Heathrow

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http://library.avsim.net/sendfile.php?Location=AVSIM&Proto=file&ImageID=109711 width=1023 align=baseline>

 

Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada

Imagine if one of those was produced as a lot for Sim City! Just some more inspiration maybe.
Anyways enough of my ramble. Best of luck with the rest of the SimWings projects!

[The boy formerly known as Evil Muzz 27]

What about an airport based on Buffalo NY. I was there last week and I really liked the design, for a small airport and it only serviced US Domestic. Would one slightly based on that do you Regional fans?

Also, I'm adding a hotel into my four-arm terminal, it will hopefully be off a sky-bridge from the terminal round to the side.

 

 

[lrfox 2]

Alright, this seems like it MAY be bordering on the edge of a request session, but as these requests are also a sort of suggestion too, i think it's fine.

 

In terms of small airports, T.F. Green in Providence R.I. is one of two smaller alternatives to Boston's congested Logan International (the other is Manchester, NH.)  Airlines such as Delta, U.S. Airways, United, Continental, Southwest, American, JetBlue, and U.S. Airways Express (and Metrojet if it's still functional) fly out of here daily. but the terminal was re-done recently and is fairly nice if you don't want to use a large international style terminal. 

 

Here are some pictures of the terminal:

 

Departures on top, Arrivals on bottom

 

short term parking, garages, and the terminal building:

http://www.pvdairport.com/riac_airports/tfgreen/images/Aerial_Photo.jpg width=900>

 

an arial view:

http://www.jetphotos.net/images/p/PVD_2-12.jpg.49676.jpg.thumb width=201>

 

all-in-all a decent small airport to model after if you're interested.f

[xiziz 11]

Author: bmag_20

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Me to was one of the ones that wanted some smaller terminals, this is why i decided to make the Small Terminal, and its not all that expensive eather, so a small community can acctually afford it ^^


Dayshot with the statistics

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Author: Muzzy

quote>
Great, cant wait to see some pictures from your project ^^

Author: Irfox

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Nice Pictures, Im hoping to get time to get back to actually modeling some stuff soon, as it is now, i dont have the time, so well just have to pray for that some of the other members of SimWings picks it up, its a very nice terminal, and id love to se a similar one ingame.

Author: Everyone interested

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Ive got good news, and an apology as usual. Lets start with the appology, i know, thispack should ahve been released long ago, sorry for the delay.
The good news is: I am completley done with modding, the only thing left is to write the readme. and even better news, ive got a national holiday coming up(well for school kids anyway) so il be off school for 10 days straight. So im hoping to have the pack released to the weekend, and il find some way of uploading it even if the Stex is still on maintanance. i got some webspace that should be able to host it preliminary, anyone able to provide mirrors are wery welcome to help out.

Also, if i manage to scramble a few more coins i will be able to get a brand new, top of the line grapics card. An Powercolor X850xt PE 256mb, which currently is, and probably allways will be the fastest card for AGP based motherborads ^^

Cheers
//Sim

[ianpaschal 77]

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I thought this was kinda a neat idea, let me know what you think.

 

 

 

Also, i was inspired to make another airport, by these wonderful pics.

 

Muzz: I'll try to get you my old airport models asap

 

 

-Scipio

[xiziz 11]

as you no doubt already know, sometime about 1600 +1gmt i released SWAP into the stex. then the forums went into mantanance and i couldnt announce it, as i went into town to celebrate one of my best buds 20year birthday and got really drunk, came home sometime 08ish in the morning ^^

anyway, hope you enjoy it.

SWAP, SimWings Airport Pack v2.2

Cheers
//Sim

[toxicpiano 125]

I HAVE RESURFACED YET AGAIN! check out what ive been doing!

https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=70211&pageNo=1#664436

 

[sparkythepenguin 90]

It seems that there are an awful lot of requests for real airports. Xiziz, are you making real-life airports too?

[kaji 0]

yea liking that idea Scipio - vey origonal. i was wondering though will there be any indication of the underground parts on the actual lot e.g. will it have a glass roof or vents? or will you just say its underground like you have? some very talented BAT'ers here, wish i could know what theyre all up to. generate some more interest etc etc.. but i know of the rl sydrome

~kaji

[xiziz 11]

Date: 11/6/2005 12:32:14 AM
Author: sparkythepenguin
It seems that there are an awful lot of requests for real airports. Xiziz, are you making real-life airports too?

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As a matter of fact, i am Planning some Terminals Based on Real terminals, more spesificly Heatrow and Arlanda, Heathrow im planning T5, which just looks so nice, and the entire Arlanda Complex, because of 2 reasons, its my home airport, and its got a very uniqe design, it was sevreal years since i was last out there, They were to redesign the ENTIRE terminal system, and im gonna do the redesigned version, even though i think they havnt started rebuilding yet.

Im hoping to get more time free to BAT now as winter creeps in, But Next on the list for airport bats i think i will have some Glass Jetways and Walkways, Probably a hubb too. Unless i feel like doing an ATCT or Hangar.

Currently ive got to get some BATS done for Pakkusena, and there prettey pressed for time so im trying to do that first. so keep an eye there too ^^

One of the things im making is an large Manufactoring Plant, For Aircraft and Vehicles, and it should be prettey huge.

Cheers
//Sim
Edit;
Some Pictures from Arlanda and Heathrow, first out Arlanda!

Arlanda, Overhead Image, to se the shape ^^

Arlanda is Europes 6th largest airport aswell, featuring a 80 meter tall ATCT.

Arlanda terminal 2 by night.

Heathrow... Terminal 5, which is under construction right now.





Cheers
//Sim

[SYM Productions 7]

Just gonna say: great work!  Keep it up!

- CDI_spy , proud part of SYM Productions

[SYM Productions 7]

cmon spy! i was reading this and wanted to comment! aw well, can't have evrything in life. just wanted to say great job on those airports and specially on those control towers on page one! i think that we need more original small airports, i think that you guys are concentrating on too massive projects. just my opinion.

-Yatagan_Lproud part of SYM Productions

PS: we should make a small airport in our fictionnal project! man, thanks guys! you just gave me an idea!

[kaji 0]

hey xixiz, i think ive got the ATCT covered (see pAI) but if you want to model one who am i to say you cant. lol i think soon there will be more ACTC then airport pieces... well cant wai to see what you do - no matter what it is

 

~kaji

[xiziz 11]

Date: 11/10/2005 3:18:34 AM Author: kaji
hey xixiz, i think ive got the ATCT covered (see pAI) but if you want to model one who am i to say you cant. lol i think soon there will be more ACTC then airport pieces... well cant wai to see what you do - no matter what it is
~kaji

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If we were only to have one ATCT, Muzzy would have had that coverd long ago, since his ATCT has been ready for about 4 months, ive just been slow at releasing it But its in the SWAP now.

Though the one im planning will only be some 50-60m, for smaller airports, since the design im using wont look good if its to tall.

And with your A1 peices i doubt we will ever have more ACTC's than Airport Peices ^^

 

ATM, im doing a Military Jet(soory, due to secrecy i cannot be more specific), and the EAVS Production Plant(A large Aircraft/Vehicle factory). I have a small list of things i need to BAT before i can resume on the Intended Airport Peices, But they too will be released when the time is right(that is after they have gotten aired enough in my CJ/CJ's ^^)

 

<B>SYM Productions, </B> We are making a lot of larger airport stuff, simply because most of the small airport stuff is already there, sure another terminal or two wouldnt hurt but still. Im planning an ATCT that is more suited for smaller airports too(as mentioned above). Thanx for the comments neverthless ^^.

Oh, and a tip for the next time you want to say something more without any comments beeing made after yours, use the Edit button, that way people wont get irritated by double posts

 

Cheers

//Sim

[sparkythepenguin 90]

Sounds like quite a project to replicate Arlanda and theopther real-world airports! There's quite a bit going on upon just Arlanda's lot!

Good luck. I want to eventually get to doing Portland International (PDX/KPDX), but there's waaay too many things in the cooker right now But if I ever get to it, it will be definetly SWAP-based, with your permission of course. SWAP seems to be the best way that I have seen so far to BAT real airports.

Quick addendum: Are Boeing 707's the only planes that appear parked at the larger airport gates or will other planes appear? It'd be neat to see a variety of plane sizes and types, like Dash-8's, MD-80's, B757's, and even maybe A380's!

[xiziz 11]

Date: 11/10/2005 9:54:28 PM
Author: sparkythepenguin
Sounds like quite a project to replicate Arlanda and theopther real-world airports! There's quite a bit going on upon just Arlanda's lot!


Good luck. I want to eventually get to doing Portland International (PDX/KPDX), but there's waaay too many things in the cooker right now But if I ever get to it, it will be definetly SWAP-based, with your permission of course. SWAP seems to be the best way that I have seen so far to BAT real airports.


Quick addendum: Are Boeing 707's the only planes that appear parked at the larger airport gates or will other planes appear? It'd be neat to see a variety of plane sizes and types, like Dash-8's, MD-80's, B757's, and even maybe A380's!

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Thanx, Id love to se some more Jets 2, but we will need to BAT and render al those airplanes with coustom Lods(for the Jetways to work), and then eather a propfamily or a different lot for each plane. From the Ingame Planes, all planes exept the 747 works, since it spins on its axis, which looks akwark when placed next to a jetway, ecpecially if you have the tail pointing towards the terminal buildings ^^

Sure, go ahead with your project there, its fine by me ^^ Give us a pling if you need any help with it

Cheers
//Sim