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what about the San Diego trolley, which is nice.29.gif


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    NEWARK CITY SUBWAY:

    Country: United States

    City: Newark

    System: Newark City Subway (NJ Transit/PSTC)

    Location: Penn Station

    Line: 7-City Subway

    Car: Newark LRV 111

    Photo by: Richard Panse

    Date: 6/23/2003

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    Country: United States

    City: Newark

    System: Newark City Subway (NJ Transit/PSTC)

    Location: Washington Street

    Line: 7-City Subway

    Car: Newark LRV 108

    Photo by: Richard Panse

    Date: 6/23/2003

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    Country: United States

    City: Newark

    System: Newark City Subway (NJ Transit/PSTC)

    Location: Orange Street

    Line: 7-City Subway

    Car: Newark PCC 29

    Photo by: Harry Pinsker

    Collection of: Joe Testagrose

    Date: 9/1958

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    ^a PCC trolley at the Orange street station in 1958

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    <ahttps://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/files//15.gif align=baseline>

    <ahttps://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/files//9.jpg width=799 align=baseline>THE BLUE LINE TRAM IN Los Angeles
     
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    On the London monorail idea -- there is no way in heck that building a 170-mile monorail system would only cost

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    Date: 10/16/2005 5:37:01 PM Author: danielanzaldua

    BLUE LINE TRAM IN Los Angeles

     
    Also known as...the busiest light rail line in the United States.  None of the lines in Portland, Sacramento, San Diego, or Dallas can come close to competing with it.  I don't have passenger-miles traveled statistics readily at hand, but I do know that the Blue Line has over 70,000 daily boardings.  Unlike the idiotically conceived nowhere-to-nowhere Green Line and the pointlessly slow Gold Line, the Blue Line has been a massive success from its first day of operation.  It is one of the key factors in the revitalization of downtown Long Beach, which is now a very cool place (as long as you don't mind breathing sulfurous diesel smoke from all the ships docked at the Port of Long Beach).
     
    On a related MTA note, the Exposition Boulevard light rail line (Expo Line) is in the advanced planning stages.  The environmental reports have been released to the public, and almost all necessary construction funds have been procured; the MTA board will vote on it in December.  Mayor Villaraigosa, who also chairs the MTA, has gone on record as a big supporter of the Expo Line, so I have little doubt that it will go through.  I predict that it will be a huge success, since it--like the Blue Line--will run through a very densely populated and heavily transit-dependent area on its way to the Metro Center station downtown.  (It will also allow me to get to USC from my home in the Palms district in under a half-hour. 10.gif)
     
    I just wish that MTA could get the money together to do one of these three things:
    A) Build a new light rail tunnel directly from Metro Center (the northern terminus of the Blue Line and the planned eastern terminus of the Expo Line) to Union Station;
    B) Modify the existing Red Line subway tunnel so that catenary-powered light rail vehicles could run on tracks that presently can only carry third-rail-powered subway cars; or
    C) replace its current catenary-only light rail vehicle fleet with dual-power ones like those used in Bordeaux.
     
    Doing any of these would allow the Expo Line and the Blue Line to go to Union Station, where Metrolink trains and the two Gold Lines terminate.  (The Pasadena leg of the Gold Line was originally called the Pasadena Blue Line, but the connector was never built.)  By then increasing service on Metrolink commuter trains, the need for seat-hopping would be eliminated, making the rail system a much more attractive alternative to driving than it currently is.  I eagerly await the day when someone from even the furthest-out suburbs could take a fast, comfortable Metrolink train to Union Station and then hop the Blue Line to Staples Center for a Lakers game or the Expo Line to the Coliseum for a USC football game, and be able to take a train back even after midnight.  It might be a decade or more off, but I am trying to do my part to bring it to fruition.

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    kmannkoopa: Monorail advocates are notoriously fast-and-loose with the numbers, much more than highway or conventional rail advocates.  I have no idea why; perhaps it's the curious science fiction obsession so many of them share.

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    Monorail looks really cool, but it doesn't seem tremendously useful. Lightrail and subway-type things can use existing infrastructure.

    Light rail seems neat, but for some reason the vehicles look like they barely go above walking speed.

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    actually if you take HBLR or the Newark City Subway, they go pretty fast.

    Inbetween Washington Street and Military park on the Newark Subway, i swear they go 60 MPH!

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    Date: 10/17/2005 3:51:20 PM Author: The Terminator

    actually if you take HBLR or the Newark City Subway, they go pretty fast.

    Inbetween Washington Street and Military park on the Newark Subway, i swear they go 60 MPH!

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    Yeah, there are some really fast light rail lines out there.  The aforementioned Exposition Boulevard light rail line will be doing 50+ in some stretches.  However, LRT has been marketed in many places as a revived streetcar, and in street-running mode it can't go any faster than the speed of traffic--which, if it's sufficiently congested, is slower than walking.

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    as for revived streetcars, i like that idea, NYC should have aheritage trolley line like san fransisco

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    No old Washington, DC trollies, huh? Okay, I'll upload one.
    This one is the 42 route from Mount Pleasant to the Metro Center, then the center of the DC trolley system, now the center of the WMATA subway system.

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    WMATA Neoplan MetroBus, 1980's.

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    why does New Jersey call it a subway its a lightrail that run under the city San Francisco does that but we dont call it subway its light rail

     
     
    Subway-Heavy Rail Runs Faster, Electric Currents on the rail
    Light Rail -Explains it self

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    Probably because New York's subway is close by. Newark used to have a lot of trolleys, and the main line followed today's route, since it went through the tunnel it was called City Subway. All the other trolley lines were shut down and the City Subway is the one that's left.

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    The monorail in Las Vegas is having ridership problems after just having tech problems (parts falling off!) and also govt tax problems, one interesting fact about the LV monorail it was original suppose to be built down the middle of the strip! where it prob would have had tens of thousands of riders however... The Donald Trump of Vegas Steve Wynn and other casino owners put preasure on the city council that it would block there signs and the front of the Casinos! so it was built behind everything, if your a tourist and never venture off the strip you would never know it was there! On a related note Vegas is now pushing for a light rail system!

    P.S... The strip now is lined wit Palm tress which now in a way block the signs! 26.gif

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    The idea for a monorail in London sounds intresting it would be a lot more intresting and scenic to travel on than a subway. It would be nice if it was built but I won't keep my hopes up.

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    Singapore has its own light rail system known as the Light Rapid Transit (LRT). There are 3 lines and all of them are linked with the subway system. All 3 lines are located in public housing estates so its an alternative to taking the bus to the subway station or getting around the estate. 
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    Date: 10/27/2005 6:49:41 AM
    Author: Dark Avatar
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    6.gif Now these buildings put European communist era tenements to shame (and I've seen really bad ones). But hey, nice mass transit system! This kind of shuttle service can really do a difference convincing people to use mass transport.

    Edit (off topic): Now that's funny, abbreviation of Singapore's transit authority SMRT ( linky ) actually means death in Czech... 17.gif

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    OMG no ones posted about the oldest Underground Light Railway in the world! The Tube! Serving the Worlds largest city ( www.emporis.com ) with 275 stations it serves around 3 million passengers a dayand is one of 3 London Metro Systems (along with the DLR and Croydon Tramlink) . The First tube line opened in 1863.
     
     
     
    When did London become the World's Largest city?  I must have been on Jupiter when that Happened42.gif6.gif

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