Sim Medieval thread

[thingfishs 416]

brilliant!!! very interested as it happens, I think FAR & FARR are 18.4 or 71.6, but I'm not sure. It sounds like a fantastic cross section of stuff you'll be doing, I will show you my meager efforts soon. As I posted earlier I am struggling with how to go about setting everything (stage & wealth levels) What sort of a plan do we need in place so that everything works? What about the rural/urban tileset idea? As for the 10m by 6 that's the RL measurement I take it, not the SC4 version?

[Crackdtoothgrin 0]

Yeah. Generally most of the French/German/English/Northern Italian stuff will be about the same, for the rural houses at least. About 10m by 6m, the 'front' with the door being one of the long sides. The more snow received in the area, the higher the roof, too.

[glazert 89]

Originally posted by: thingfishs

brilliant!!! very interested as it happens, I think FAR & FARR are 18.4 or 71.6, but I'm not sure.quote>

Yes, I checked with the tooltips on the relevant NAM menu and the straight FAR pieces are 18.4 and 71.6. There are also transitional pieces between FAR and ortho and diagonal, including curves. I think there is scope for buildings at all sorts of angles.

[Timmystwin 201]

cheers for the guidelines.

EDIT

I went on for 5 minutes and made some lots and did a small city, only problem is the cement trucks.

/\ An overall view of the small town i made. /\

/\ Some fields i got bored and made /\

[jacqulina 162]

great work here

[SimCity4IE 202]

 You know, I have some free time, and I use 3ds max for high quality renders; so I could make some models for you or generally help out

- Ed

[thingfishs 416]

excellent, that would be much appreciated. This project is still alive btw, and I've slowly been adding to my LOT & BAT collection. The main stumbling block for me was the need to learn more about some of the basic game mechanics, and also how to use PIMX properly (plus my other 6 projects;-)). But I'm getting there. I will pm you with some further info and any lotters or batters interested, please let me know.

[Timmystwin 201]

That would be very usefull, i havent been doing much for sim-medieval recently, and i may unearth that after i get bored of simmars. (so give it a week). I also have exams now, so dont expect any updates till June25th, as i will be working. Damn exams.

[SimCity4IE 202]

During my time off between studying today, I made a test building that could be a blacksmith's. It isn't fully textured yet, and windows on the front of the roof aren't finished yet,  but is this roughly the style you're looking for?

  

[thingfishs 416]

personally no, it's more of a fantasy style than medieval. (The chimneys look particularly unrealistic to me)This is an example of of more the style of blacksmith I'm after (along with the tools etc):

or this

 

[Timmystwin 201]

Wow. Just wow. I leave this project in your hands thingfish, they are more than capable. Ive got to revise more and then i am VERY busy over summer. Hope to BAT some more simmedieval stuff in september

Timmystwin

ps, ive linked this blacksmith to the start page.

[SimCity4IE 202]

 

[thingfishs 416]

Originally posted by: Timmystwin

Wow. Just wow. I leave this project in your hands thingfish, 

ps, ive linked this blacksmith to the start page.quote>

Thanks Timmy but don't forget this was my project & idea to begin with. Secondly I didn't make those models, they are merely examples for SimCity4IE  to work from (so I would take that link off the front page).

SimCity4IE: Much better. I think your proportions could do with some tweaking (scale tool should do - to my eyes the building could be a tad wider). Also the textures, particularly the roof, still need some work. But you're now in the right neck of the woods. 

I am putting together a private SM website as a development place. Anyone that is interested in contributing please PM me. (i.e lotters, batters, modders, medieval nuts)

But at this point I have no expectations; I know it's only when there is more progress to show that the volume of manpower will increase.

Stay tuned... 

[SimCity4IE 202]

I'm going to use this post to show the various buildings I have finished.

So far a total of: 2 SimMedieval buildings are finished and rendered.

1. Blacksmith:

2. Market Place/Castle

3. (Coming soon)

Reserved for more.

[thingfishs 416]

cool, the roof texture looks a lot better. I'm of mixed feelings about the smoke... I'm hoping/assuming that there will be a way have a smoke animation for use in game. I think this is especially important in this era ( a lot of in game effects/animated props etc won't be usable), to add some movement & life to the scenes. I expect near every building would've had a plume of smoke emanating from within.

This market/castle looks underscaled or something. Maybe it's just the effect of the textures (which are well OVER scaled imo) Also I think you need to make some variations to your roof textures so all the buildings aren't exactly the same.

[Jeiman2008 21]

Just checking in to see how this project has been coming along. I'm glad to see people are still showing interest in it. I just came back to SC4 after about 2 months off, but I haven't forgotten about killing civic vehicles. It may take me a few weeks but I plan on re-investigating the issue soon. Any word on the possibility of switching civic vehicles with alternate models? That's definitely out of my comfort zone, but I think it's still a viable solution because I'm really not sure if it will be possible to do it through the automata exemplar.

[thingfishs 416]

it is possible, and has already been done - thanks to Dobs' ingenuity. Check your messages. :-)

  

The cement trucks

The mayor's limo.

The main problem with this is that they are still traveling at the speed of the network When they hit a road it's hilarious.

Also, as has been pointed out to me, the dog is too domestic fro the times.

[Simcraft 0]

This is very interesting! You should take a look at Anno 1404. It will offer you great new ideas for many types of buildings, especially residential ones from R$ to R$$$($$). Also many other citylike buildings like a doctor or fire department.

[Timmystwin 201]

back from exam hell.... I am amazed, you solved the civic vehicles? Nice! Could i suggest carts with signs on the side? like a cross for an ambulance? That would solve the road problem. I might try and get to wark on retexturing the roads, as my main issue of the automata has been solved. I might pass the word round in the simmars forums, having been interested in that a bit, and i may also dig into thier DATs to see how they did it. Dont expect any work off of me for a while ( i lost 20 BATs when my PC died, i am still hoping to ressurect them.) although i may work out something usefull.

[jacqulina 162]

wow some great work here

[SimCity4IE 202]

I'm about half way through making a UI mod, I will show pictures soon ^^

Luckily now I have plenty of time to work on SC4 projects since all my tests are finished! 

[thingfishs 416]

I know nothing about UI modding (other than it's tricky), but certainly there needs to be some changes made for the final product. I gather there's a limited palette? What options are there for the UI?

[SimCity4IE 202]

I'm adding more to it constantly, this is probably going to be just a test until I get a better set of wood textures for ps cs3 sorted out. 

[Timmystwin 201]

yet we still need more automata. Do you know how to make custom queries? I was gonna try that but got stuck. I think the maxis ones are a bit technical, and not old fashioned enough, so i was gonna...work some stuff out. Although i like what you have done, and an overall colour scheme of wood and black looks good.

[SimCity4IE 202]

What do you mean exactly by queries? Like when you click on a building with the ? tool?

[Timmystwin 201]

Yes them. I found a tutorial on them ( two infact) and i might try it. But for now, COD awaits!

[SimCity4IE 202]

I did a bit more with the UI menu, but it still needs more textures and a bit of tidying up.  

[thingfishs 416]

The SimMedieval title looks great in there like that.

[Timmystwin 201]

I second that. That writing is the way to go. Im still gettin to the query ones but i will hopefully get there. ( CTD on all of them. )

[SimCity4IE 202]

Originally posted by: Timmystwin

I second that. That writing is the way to go. Im still gettin to the query ones but i will hopefully get there. ( CTD on all of them. )quote>

Daeley has a tutorial on modding UI menus on SC4D. This is probably the most important part for your situation:

 

• The query causes the game to crash to desktop, any ideas?

Just like above, in most cases I have encoutered this is caused because of an area error.

For example: the area (200,400,300,300) can not exist. If I refer to this area as (x0,y0,x1,y1),

you can see the x-coordinates are correct, as x1 > x0. However, since y0 > y1, this area can not

exist, and this will cause a game crash.