City of Dickson

[johannesut 1]

@Jaybyrd05 I didn't know that we had a commute issue to deal with... Finally, this elevated road connection will help a Lot in your effort to reduce the commute time to the industrial zone. But I'd really like to see two traffic congestion screenshots: One before the construction of the elevated road (If you have any), and One after the construction of the elevated road. Then I could make some comments based on facts.

Anyway I'm looking forward for your tonight's update to see some more things that I want... You got a wonderful city by the way.

[Jaybyrd05 3]

Thanks I do have a before, but it's a little dated... however you can get the idea of what was going on. I'll also grab one with the road in place.

[johannesut 1]

Of course...Awesome... I'll go out for a coffee, and i hope that the update will be ready by night.. Talk to you soon

[jazyje 1]

I really like the elevated roadway, but I would definitely make it as wide as possible -- either expressway or large avenue ---- or else you'd get congestion on it + it's more realistic to expect expressways to be elevated rather than small avenues.... I'd prefer at least 2 additional on/off ramps.... I know express road leading out of town is your idea behind it, but access points should be provided along the elevated rod -- it's already there, wouldn't cost much to add some ramps, but it would allow other residents/workers to get on/off from their respective neighborhoods....

[johannesut 1]

+1 jazyje . Jaybyrd05 will present us tonight some pictures of traffic congestion and commuting data. Maybe it isn't so necessary to put any on/off ramps... Maybe it's a good idea i don't know... it's upon him to test this project.

[supercity124 8]

I've noticed something in this picture,


In this picture, as I see, Are these overhead power lines and power poles along the river I see in this picture??

[Jaybyrd05 3]

No those are wind power plants I have lining parts of the river

[jazyje 1]

Man, living in one of those rowhouses in the middle of that last pics with nearby farms and wind plants would be perfect. Be careful there. Jaybyrd, it's starting to look more and more like the U.K. --- the U.S. has quite a bit more sprawl...

[jazyje 1]

Originally posted by: supercity124

I've noticed something in this picture,

In this picture, as I see, Are these overhead power lines and power poles along the river I see in this picture??quote>

BTW, if those utiluty posts are too unsightly, and your city cannot easily bury them, here's a new option.....

www.wrap-a-post.com/After.html

 

[Jaybyrd05 3]

Hahaha yea it started out as all low density residential sporadically dotted around the farms.... but I am starting to build over the farms now. Most of those farms you see that border the city will soon be replaced with housing. The rowhouses were supposed to be like apartment complexes but, yea, that didn't work so well. If you could see how often I place buildings and then delete the entire thing and start over..... I just haven't dealt with that area yet. Not going European.... just trying different ideas as I build. =]

[jazyje 1]

I know, I was just messing with you.. Still, maybe you need more auto-oriented sprawl on the edges of Dikson...... Think Gallatin Pike in Nashville... Maybe not.... I guess I'm looking forward to the next update and will reevaluate where Dickson stands as of then...

[jazyje 1]

OK, I took another look at your update:

www.simtropolis.com/forum/messageview.cfm

And in my view, Dickson is ready for a ring road or even two -- first around the inner city/CBD core & another one around main town --- think Inner Belt Exwy as the inner ring + I-270 as the outer belt in St. Loius for instance:

maps.google.com/maps

And as far as your original elevelated roadway, I'd upgrade it to an expressway or use the space / pillards for an elevated subway/train...

It would be helpful to think of this issue more comprehensively if you culd post your tyraffic congestion map...

[Jaybyrd05 3]

Yes, I need to get one posted.... the past couple of days have been hectic and tonight will be as well. Hopefully, I will be able to settle back in to non-stop playing and get some stuff posted late tonight or tomorrow evening.

I have the beltways laid out in my mind.... but implementing them is something totally different. Mainly due to the limitations currently with the highways and lack of good on/off ramps. The homemade interchanges people have done are great, but not fully functional b/c of the traffic lights everywhere. I don't mind reorganizing sections of the city to allow of the roads and all, but I want them to fit in and not look like an afterthought (even though they are >_<).

As for the sprawl.... working on it!!!! In my spare time I've been pouring over Google Maps of Nashville and the area.... since it's what I know. Trying to get a good feel for how the urban and suburban sprawl here really looks from above. I haven't been able to implement any of it, but hopefully very soon.

[jazyje 1]

Cool, can't wait --- just try to remember to take a shot of your traffic congestion so we can see what kind of congestion issues you have cooked for yourself in Dickson!!!

[jazyje 1]

Also, do you have plans for increasing density right by your CBD by the lakefront --- right now you have what seems to be high-wealth execs residing there in SFHs --- maybe realism would call for building an expressway there -- that's a sweet spot for it if you follow typical American land use patterns ---- the highway could be adjacent to mid-high density buildings + that would make a nice transition to your downtown.... I don't know though.. I kind of like the tranquility of the lakefront.... but again, it's a bit unusual to have such low-density by the lakefront in a large city.... can't think of many examples......

[Jaybyrd05 3]

Well it's not really a BIG lake that allows for freight transportation.... I cannot build any ports or harbours. I am utilizing it more as a scenic lake instead of a means of transport. In that case, the city wouldn't be concentrated on the lakefront and it allows for the upper class citizens to have their homes and communities built along it. The CBD is, instead, built around the original intersection of several original roads that I had crisscrossing the map. The city grew out, and up, around that area with it's heavier concentration of passengers.

I have also looked at the feasibility of putting a raised expressway or something through this area.  More than likely it would be very close to downtown and cross through the area of high wealth high-rises and not through the SFH communities.

[jazyje 1]

I understand your thinking here --- the wealthy lakefront area of Dickson is kind of like Beacon Hill in Boston then (?) ---- low-density wealthy merchants' homes close to CBD and in that case at the convergence of Charles River and the inlet to the Atlantic Ocean... And the actual CBD and the city had grown out of the transportation paths inland...

Anyhow, hopefully you are working on that much-needed update now!

[johannesut 1]

Jaybyrd05 Still no updates on the traffic congestion problem? Or you already solved it...?

[Jaybyrd05 3]

OK sorry for the delay.... no time to do anything today it seems. Here are several pictures of the current traffic conditions...... and one random shot downtown bc I felt like it haha I didn't have time to trace out major arteries but hopefully you can tell what's what. If not, then I will work on that tomorrow.

The first real images of the industrial area of town. Not my pride and joy by any means.... it's functional at this point though, not pretty haha

[patriotizzy 0]

I've got no ideas on how to improve traffic, but your city's looking great

[jazyje 1]

I'd probably add 2 beltlines, maybe in these locations (and of course there would be extensions to connect them at a few locations +on/off ramps):

[johannesut 1]

1. Upgrade #1: Use more lanes to some roads + place some on/off ramps in the highlighted areas

2. Upgrade #2: Upgrade #1 in combination with changing your bus line routes

That's what would I do... I would actually design the city plan with a different way. You don't have any "huge" freeway crossing over the city...I'll present you my idea like this: I am a resident X who wants to move to the industrial area of your city. I have to use a highway/freeway from point A to point B. From point B to point C. And from point C to my destination. i don't really know if you feel what im saying here....

[johannesut 1]

Besides the definition of traffic congestion is: Too many residents to the same place at the same time. This means that the resident X goes from point A1 to point A2 and from A2 to A3. And at the same time the resident Y goes from B1 to A2, and from A2 to B5. In that case we got increased traffic congestion to point A2. So try to give more "exits" / choices to your commuters. A postitive factor to your effort is also a Fast and Easy "choice".

[Jaybyrd05 3]

I think I know what you mean..... even though all the equations make my head spin. I have some ideas in mind that I am going to work on this weekend in detail....

[johannesut 1]

It's nice to hear that Jaybyrd05. It is your own city, you got your own ideas, do your best for your residents... I am sure you'll succeed ) im looking forward for your next update!

[Damastius 5]

Wow, I love how you design your neighbourhoods!!

[Jaybyrd05 3]

It seems disaster has struck the city and the industrial wastes outside the city have all been destroyed!!!     The city has pressed on though and decided to import almost 100% of it's polluting industry, power, fuel, and waste to begin work on "greening" the city.  Out of work employees have been outsourced to balance the budget for all of the imports....

Updates on the greening of the city and redesigned roads and neighborhoods to follow later in the weekend.  This will be a huge undertaking by the city.... and no doubt some headache along the way

Thank you for all of your support and stay tuned!!!!

[johannesut 1]

I love these kind of "updates". Greening your city, is not only functional for your city's needs, but its also a very good opportunity to make your city more attractive and beautiful... great job !

[Raceman95 4]

have you tried one way roads, click on a road section and click one way icon, if wrong direction then click again and click the other one. try a roundabout around the park , using the current roads and make them one ways. this might sound stupid, but put 2 large avenues or small avenues next to each other and on jazyje's belway plan(blue line) destroy the current roads and make the 2 one ways. it might just work and can be elevated or not

[Jaybyrd05 3]

Traffic problems have mysteriously disappeared Adding the beltways would be for aesthetic and realism purposes now; not for congestion issues