Freeze, Crash To Desktop (CTD), Dual Core?

[Gahagan 0]

Hope this is still of use to someone.

Just installed Sim City 4 Deluxe on a Win7 64 bit machine.

* nVidia GTX260 card

* 6GB ram

* Core i7 'Bloomfield' (2.66ghz?) processor

Game wouldn't boot standard. Tried XP SP 2 & 3, as well as Vista vanilla & SP2 compatibility modes. Didn't work.

To get the game running, take the following steps:

1.) Create a shortcut from the Sim City folder on the desktop.

2.) Right click the new shortcut, go to "Properties"

3.) Under the "Shortcut" tab will be a box labeled "Target" and should include the pathway for running the game.

4.) At the end of "\SimCity 4.exe" hit space, once, and then paste the following without the quotes:

"-w -r1280x1024"

5.) Game should now run. I only ran it for 5 minutes, but it appeared to be free of crashes and graphics glitches.

[SC4BOY 21]

This has become a "standard problem" since people have gone to displays that are not 3:4 ratios ..ie 800x600, 1600x1200 (the largest SC4 was designed to function in) etc.. The "new" HD screens are designed for other ratios, most commonly 16:9 but also on notebooks which often have shortened vertical compared to the horizontal... For this reason it is probably a GOOD idea to follow these steps, just as a standard part of an SC4 install ON ANY SYSTEM.. doesn't matter if it is XP, W7, Vista, etc.  SC4 WILL NOT START UP in any other ratio without this change

When you install SC4:

Originally posted by: Gahagan

1.) Create a shortcut [or edit "properties" on the shortcut created by the game install] from the Sim City folder on the desktop.

2.) Right click the new shortcut, go to "Properties"

3.) Under the "Shortcut" tab will be a box labeled "Target" and should include the pathway for running the game.

4.) At the end of "\SimCity 4.exe"  (outside the quotes) hit space, once, and then add the following without the quotes:

"-w -rWWWWxHHHH"quote>

  NOTE: WWWW and HHHH are the width and height of your monitor display

Now save and use the shortcut to run simcity. I have edited those a bit to apply to a more general case

This will not stop all video, driver, DX, etc problems but will avoid what has become a very common issue standing in the way of successful startup

[MilkCiklon 0]

Thank you. :-)

[MilkCiklon 0]

Thanks a lot! :-)

[loken rocks 0]

how to do this on windows xp??

[DocRorlach 25]

Originally posted by: ed_diaz

does anyone know how to get simcity 4 to be optimized and utilize just 1 core on a dual core laptop?quote>

There's a tutorial on the Omnibus: Vista vs. SC4. Same rules apply here. To check if that is the cause of crashes you need to get the game to at least region level; then ALT-CTRL-DEL to bring up the task manager; switch to Processes, and find the simcity4 process; right-click and set affinity to CPU0, and priority to HIGH (not real time!). Close task manager, continue playing. If it does not crash, that tutorial is your next step.

If it contnues to crash, you have other problems.

[tjh876 31]

SC4 was designed when only 1 core processors exist. So it will only use 1 core. In Windows 7, you can try to make it use multiple, but also you can make it use a quieter core as well.

[Slashback 136]

Originally posted by: loken rocks

how to do this on windows xp??quote>

Do what?

[jakehh 52]

My SC4 was working completely fine and after downloading some new mods/buildings etc, i was working on my new city tile and it'd started to grow and it just crashed (Hasn't crashed in awhile either), and every time i open that one tile it crashes, all my other tiles work fine

[FrancisM89 1]

My copy has decided to CTD now. Building up a city to 40,000 people so far had absolutly no problems and no crashes. Downloaded a canal mod and everything was peachy for a couple of hours, then had a CTD. They grew more frequent, every 10 mins it would crash, then 5 to the situation where now it crashes after about 20 seconds of going into the city. I've moved all my plugins out, set the affinity and priority which does absolutly nothing.

[A Nonny Moose 8,262]

Does this happen in a specifc city or any city? 

Have you tried a sandbox test with and without the canal mod?

Please specify what hardware you have including the amount of VRAM (swap file, virtual memory) and the size of your plugin suite.

All plugins do not coexist.  You may have to decide which ones to keep.

[FrancisM89 1]

Tried three cities in one region. Reproduced the CTD in 3 different cities, one which has a population of 40,000; one 700 and a new one that just had god mode trees planted.

In the 'Timbuktu' region, put in the plugins and worked fine, added the canal and worked fine.

Operating System: MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

CPU: Amd Phenom II X4 955 (4CPUs) - 3.2GHZ

Deneb 45nm Technology

RAM: 4.0GB Single-Channel DDR3 @ 669MHZ 9-9-9-24

Motherboard: ASUSTeK Computer INC. M4A77TD (AM3)

Graphics: SyncMaster @ 1440 x 900

ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series

VRAM: 2807MB

Plugins folder: 2.4GBs.

[A Nonny Moose 8,262]

The only thing that looks a little off is your VRAM.  I would put it up to at least 4GB to match your physical RAM.  This is just a gut feeling.  Do you have a trees or terrain mod?  If you have hole digging lots, make sure you have installed the whole suite.

[Slashback 136]

Originally posted by: jakehh

My SC4 was working completely fine and after downloading some new mods/buildings etc, i was working on my new city tile and it'd started to grow and it just crashed (Hasn't crashed in awhile either), and every time i open that one tile it crashes, all my other tiles work finequote>

Try removing the plugin from your folder, I think it's what causes the problem. I don't think there is anything you can do about it, if the plugin is the problem.

@FrancisM89: Have you looked at the guide on the first page?

[nodnarb_04 0]

Hi all,

I am new to this forum and am having a similar problem others are having. I, hopefully, atached an image of the problem. I have tried searching this and other forums and haven't found anything remotely close other than this thread, so I apologize if this was answered someplace else. The glitch occurs in region view on, so far, large maps only AND regions I have downloaded over Simtropolis. It does not occur with regions pre-made by Maxis. I have had this problem with three region downloads so far. I have tried different resolutions, renderings, and modification of the shortcut application on my desktop, all with no results. I also don't intereact with the computer when the regions are created and I turn the screen saver off. I am able to play the large map, however cannot play a map above/behind the glitch... and it just looks like crap.

Thanks for any help!

System specs

Alienware Aurora

Windows 7 Home Premium

Intel Core i7 CPU @ 2.67 GHz

64 bit OS

RAM: 6 GB

x2 ATI Radeon HD 5600 Series 

VRAM: 2 GB

[A Nonny Moose 8,262]

Welcome to the conversation

Interesting machine.  I couldn't open your illustration, but probably because I am on Linux.

The only thing I would suggest is that you increase your VRAM.  As an old operating system guy I have a preference for at least 2GB per core which im my case should be 4GB as I have an Athlon II x2.  (in fact I have 10GB because Linux uses swap partitions.)

The only other cautionary tale I have for you is to remember that this is a legacy game build around 2000 and it doesn't know anythng about modern graphics processors.  Make sure all your GPU settings are on "application selected" or equivalent.  This will cause them to be off when you run the game.

There is a known bug in the game if you try to run at a vertical resolution of 1200 px or more.  This will cause lines to appear at the bottom of regions, but it is harmless.

[nodnarb_04 0]

Sorry about that. Here's what the image looks like:

I'm really confused on what you said about VRAM. I just bought my computer last August (2010), and upgraded to close to the best video card I could put in the machine. 2 GB is a lot of memory on board two video cards. The computer I had prior to my current one, had an Nvidia GeForce, something or whatever, with not even a gig of VRAM and only 2 GB RAM, and the game ran fine. I can't see how this would be a VRAM issue. On a side note, running at 1024 x 768 resolution in-game (using the appended code in the shortcut icon), does seem to help as earlier today I didn't have the problem. Not sure, however, if it is a fussy issue or what. I appreciate the input

[A Nonny Moose 8,262]

I don't think the game would use two video cards.  In any case, did you make sure that both of them are set to "application selected" on all options?  Your illustration indicates some kind of video card interference.  Try setting the game to software rendering and see if this problem clears up.  If it does, then the problem is definitiely the hardware, and futher investigateion is needed.

Sorry about the confusion.  VRAM to me is Virtual Memory, not Video RAM.  If you have a lot of plugins, this may be your problem.

[FrancisM89 1]

Originally posted by: A Nonny Moose

The only thing that looks a little off is your VRAM.  I would put it up to at least 4GB to match your physical RAM.  This is just a gut feeling.  Do you have a trees or terrain mod?  If you have hole digging lots, make sure you have installed the whole suite.

quote>

Sorry for the late reply, had lots of uni work. Done the virtual RAM. I have a terrain mod and growable trees. I only have the one terrain mod though, triple checked that and I haven't used any of the growable trees. Hole digging lot is complete.

Yuppie, used the guide on page 1 before posting.

It seems to be an utterly random issue. Where it was crashing after seconds it stopped, and I was able to do about 2 hours before a CTD. Other times however it's crashing how I said.

[A Nonny Moose 8,262]

OK.  I've been investigating CTDs lately.  One of the things I have learned is that if you do a manual save (CTRL+s) farily frequently, it seems to reset whatever is going on, and you are good for a while longer.

[FrancisM89 1]

That helps when it decides to play long, like today I had 2 decent sessions. Then did UDI GLR to test the connections, it did a CTD just after I did that. Now when I try and start the city it CTD's after about 5 seconds without me doing anything.

[ozdaniel 4]

Exception time: 03/03/2011, at 20:47:04.

Exception code: 0xC0000005 (-1073741819) ACCESS_VIOLATION.

Current thread ID: 5176 (0x00001438).

Version information:

Application/module path: C:\Program Files\Maxis\SimCity 4 Deluxe\Apps\SimCity 4.exe

Application/module version name: SimCity 4

Application/module version: 1.1.640.0

System version: Windows NT 6.1

System memory: 2048 Megabytes total, 1728 Megabytes free.

Exception module: C:\Program Files\Maxis\SimCity 4 Deluxe\Apps\SimCity 4.exe.

Exception address: 0x006a5b2a. Section:Offset: 0x01:0x0029eb2a.

Registers

EAX: 00000000

EBX: 0000002d

ECX: 23d88454

EDX: 24ab3174

ESI: 239a072c

EDI: 2372e314

CS:EIP: 001b:006a5b2a

SS:ESP: 0023:0012f5c0 EBP:00000055

DS:0023 ES:0023 FS:003b GS:0000

Flags: 00210246

Loaded Modules

Address Size Module Path

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

0x00400000 8187904 SimCity 4.exe C:\Program Files\Maxis\SimCity 4 Deluxe\Apps\SimCity 4.exe

0x77110000 1298432 ntdll.dll C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll

0x77030000 868352 kernel32.dll C:\Windows\system32\kernel32.dll

0x75510000 303104 KERNELBASE.dll C:\Windows\system32\KERNELBASE.dll

0x77270000 823296 USER32.dll C:\Windows\system32\USER32.dll

0x76af0000 319488 GDI32.dll C:\Windows\system32\GDI32.dll

0x76ee0000 40960 LPK.dll C:\Windows\system32\LPK.dll

0x767c0000 643072 USP10.dll C:\Windows\system32\USP10.dll

0x76450000 704512 msvcrt.dll C:\Windows\system32\msvcrt.dll

0x766c0000 655360 ADVAPI32.dll C:\Windows\system32\ADVAPI32.dll

0x76ef0000 102400 sechost.dll C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\sechost.dll

0x76c20000 659456 RPCRT4.dll C:\Windows\system32\RPCRT4.dll

0x6b210000 28672 WSOCK32.dll C:\Windows\system32\WSOCK32.dll

0x757c0000 217088 WS2_32.dll C:\Windows\system32\WS2_32.dll

0x76ed0000 24576 NSI.dll C:\Windows\system32\NSI.dll

0x75560000 1003520 WININET.dll C:\Windows\system32\WININET.dll

0x76760000 356352 SHLWAPI.dll C:\Windows\system32\SHLWAPI.dll

0x76860000 1269760 urlmon.dll C:\Windows\system32\urlmon.dll

0x75660000 1425408 ole32.dll C:\Windows\system32\ole32.dll

0x76f10000 585728 OLEAUT32.dll C:\Windows\system32\OLEAUT32.dll

0x75370000 1163264 CRYPT32.dll C:\Windows\system32\CRYPT32.dll

0x752d0000 49152 MSASN1.dll C:\Windows\system32\MSASN1.dll

0x76cd0000 2072576 iertutil.dll C:\Windows\system32\iertutil.dll

0x75800000 12881920 SHELL32.dll C:\Windows\system32\SHELL32.dll

0x6e2f0000 466944 DSOUND.dll C:\Windows\system32\DSOUND.dll

0x736b0000 204800 WINMM.dll C:\Windows\system32\WINMM.dll

0x74460000 151552 POWRPROF.dll C:\Windows\system32\POWRPROF.dll

0x76520000 1691648 SETUPAPI.dll C:\Windows\system32\SETUPAPI.dll

0x75490000 159744 CFGMGR32.dll C:\Windows\system32\CFGMGR32.dll

0x754c0000 73728 DEVOBJ.dll C:\Windows\system32\DEVOBJ.dll

0x74760000 36864 VERSION.dll C:\Windows\system32\VERSION.dll

0x64700000 819200 OPENGL32.dll C:\Windows\system32\OPENGL32.dll

0x70570000 139264 GLU32.dll C:\Windows\system32\GLU32.dll

0x6d5e0000 946176 DDRAW.dll C:\Windows\system32\DDRAW.dll

0x6fca0000 24576 DCIMAN32.dll C:\Windows\system32\DCIMAN32.dll

0x73c50000 77824 dwmapi.dll C:\Windows\system32\dwmapi.dll

0x70aa0000 135168 MSVFW32.dll C:\Windows\system32\MSVFW32.dll

0x6e370000 540672 COMCTL32.dll C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_microsoft.windows.common-controls_6595b64144ccf1df_5.82.7600.16661_none_ebfb56996c72aefc\COMCTL32.dll

0x77250000 126976 IMM32.dll C:\Windows\system32\IMM32.dll

0x769a0000 835584 MSCTF.dll C:\Windows\system32\MSCTF.dll

0x751d0000 307200 apphelp.dll C:\Windows\system32\apphelp.dll

0x620b0000 2195456 AcGenral.DLL C:\Windows\AppPatch\AcGenral.DLL

0x75140000 106496 SspiCli.dll C:\Windows\system32\SspiCli.dll

0x73f00000 262144 UxTheme.dll C:\Windows\system32\UxTheme.dll

0x738c0000 61440 samcli.dll C:\Windows\system32\samcli.dll

0x73590000 81920 MSACM32.dll C:\Windows\system32\MSACM32.dll

0x70360000 12288 sfc.dll C:\Windows\system32\sfc.dll

0x70350000 53248 sfc_os.DLL C:\Windows\system32\sfc_os.DLL

0x748c0000 94208 USERENV.dll C:\Windows\system32\USERENV.dll

0x75260000 45056 profapi.dll C:\Windows\system32\profapi.dll

0x6fc80000 73728 MPR.dll C:\Windows\system32\MPR.dll

0x6d500000 573440 AcLayers.dll C:\Windows\AppPatch\AcLayers.dll

0x6fae0000 331776 WINSPOOL.DRV C:\Windows\system32\WINSPOOL.DRV

0x61420000 2461696 AcXtrnal.DLL C:\Windows\AppPatch\AcXtrnal.DLL

0x718d0000 24576 SHUNIMPL.DLL C:\Windows\system32\SHUNIMPL.DLL

0x733d0000 53248 SortServer2003Comp C:\Windows\system32\SortServer2003Compat.dll

0x10000000 638976 ~df394b.tmp C:\Users\ozdaniel\AppData\Local\Temp\~efc56e\~df394b.tmp

0x75160000 49152 CRYPTBASE.dll C:\Windows\system32\CRYPTBASE.dll

0x76fa0000 536576 CLBCatQ.DLL C:\Windows\system32\CLBCatQ.DLL

0x76510000 20480 psapi.dll C:\Windows\system32\psapi.dll

0x73f80000 1695744 comctl32.dll C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_microsoft.windows.common-controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.7600.16661_none_420fe3fa2b8113bd\comctl32.dll

0x74130000 1003520 propsys.dll C:\Windows\system32\propsys.dll

0x73790000 335872 rasapi32.dll C:\Windows\system32\rasapi32.dll

0x73770000 86016 rasman.dll C:\Windows\system32\rasman.dll

0x00cd0000 294912 SimCity 4 Extra Ch C:\Users\ozdaniel\Documents\SimCity 4\Plugins\SimCity 4 Extra Cheats Plugin.dll

0x01460000 294912 SimCity_4_Extra_Ch C:\Users\ozdaniel\Documents\SimCity 4\Plugins\SimCity_4_Extra_Cheats_Plugin.dll

0x68ca0000 36864 atiu9pag.dll C:\Windows\system32\atiu9pag.dll

0x74ce0000 90112 CRYPTSP.dll C:\Windows\system32\CRYPTSP.dll

0x74a80000 241664 rsaenh.dll C:\Windows\system32\rsaenh.dll

0x75080000 94208 bcrypt.dll C:\Windows\system32\bcrypt.dll

0x749c0000 249856 bcryptprimitives.d C:\Windows\system32\bcryptprimitives.dll

0x74df0000 229376 ncrypt.dll C:\Windows\system32\ncrypt.dll

0x748a0000 90112 GPAPI.dll C:\Windows\system32\GPAPI.dll

0x70080000 114688 cryptnet.dll C:\Windows\system32\cryptnet.dll

0x76aa0000 282624 WLDAP32.dll C:\Windows\system32\WLDAP32.dll

0x73a50000 24576 SensApi.dll C:\Windows\system32\SensApi.dll

0x70060000 86016 Cabinet.dll C:\Windows\system32\Cabinet.dll

0x74a60000 57344 DEVRTL.dll C:\Windows\system32\DEVRTL.dll

0x6f290000 528384 aticfx32.dll C:\Windows\system32\aticfx32.dll

0x66560000 3825664 atiumdag.dll C:\Windows\system32\atiumdag.dll

0x66260000 3117056 atiumdva.dll C:\Windows\system32\atiumdva.dll

0x66140000 835584 D3DIM700.DLL C:\Windows\system32\D3DIM700.DLL

0x74230000 233472 MMDevApi.dll C:\Windows\System32\MMDevApi.dll

0x73620000 221184 AUDIOSES.DLL C:\Windows\system32\AUDIOSES.DLL

0x74b60000 278528 dnsapi.DLL C:\Windows\system32\dnsapi.DLL

0x73380000 114688 iphlpapi.DLL C:\Windows\system32\iphlpapi.DLL

0x73360000 28672 WINNSI.DLL C:\Windows\system32\WINNSI.DLL

0x6e820000 36864 LINKINFO.dll C:\Windows\system32\LINKINFO.dll

0x6ca60000 11005952 ieframe.dll C:\Windows\System32\ieframe.dll

0x73a90000 245760 OLEACC.dll C:\Windows\System32\OLEACC.dll

0x6e940000 454656 ntshrui.dll C:\Windows\system32\ntshrui.dll

0x750b0000 102400 srvcli.dll C:\Windows\system32\srvcli.dll

0x6f210000 45056 cscapi.dll C:\Windows\system32\cscapi.dll

0x736f0000 40960 slc.dll C:\Windows\system32\slc.dll

0x6e830000 188416 shdocvw.dll C:\Windows\System32\shdocvw.dll

0x75120000 32768 Secur32.dll C:\Windows\system32\Secur32.dll

0x73f40000 73728 SAMLIB.dll C:\Windows\system32\SAMLIB.dll

0x73910000 36864 netutils.dll C:\Windows\system32\netutils.dll

0x74120000 28672 avrt.dll C:\Windows\system32\avrt.dll

0x35470000 507904 DbgHelp.dll C:\Program Files\Maxis\SimCity 4 Deluxe\Apps\DbgHelp.dll

Call stack:

(Debug information (.pdb files) appears to be absent).

0x0001:0x0029eb2a C:\Program Files\Maxis\SimCity 4 Deluxe\Apps\SimCity 4.exe.

Stack data: (ESP is 0x0012f5c0)

0x0012f440 0a400000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 006d08c0 001f0000

0x0012f460 007c0000 ff830000 00200000 40340000 00000000 00000000 00000000 000000c0

0x0012f480 006a10c0 0c040000 cdcccc3b 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 cdcc4cbc

0x0012f4a0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 3333b1bf 66660440

0x0012f4c0 0000403f 0000803f 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000

0x0012f4e0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000

0x0012f500 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000

0x0012f520 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000

0x0012f540 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000

0x0012f560 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000

0x0012f580 00000000 00000000 00000000 05000000 082d80c0 acdb58c3 117caa82 04d10200

0x0012f5a0 0090bc00 309feac3 34fdffff e4020000 34fdffff cc020000 18000000 00000000

0x0012f5c0 14e37223 0058b500 00040000 01000000 02000000 6566f643 cccccc3e e0736a00

0x0012f5e0 00000000 24a0ca12 18e37223 94c64435 6a6a2500 05000000 03000000 a0874435

0x0012f600 60f61200 48002603 03000000 11b2419c 31480000 0058b500 00040000 00e37223

0x0012f620 4c94b400 04000000 84f61200 4e42ff9a 22000000 00000000 00000000 63946a00

0x0012f640 05000000 18e37223 94c64435 6a6a2500 05000000 18e37223 902cb600 6a6a2500

0x0012f660 63217000 94c64435 01000000 145ad502 05000000 252b7000 a459b728 1a689566

0x0012f680 6a6a2500 01000000 05000000 745ad502 ccf61200 ac5bd502 1c5ad502 0f000000

0x0012f6a0 05000000 542f9023 b33b7000 c8544435 14008a02 d0544435 1c5ad502 acf61200

0x0012f6c0 0cfd1200 d0f1a600 ffffffff f8f61200 9ca98700 448d0500 b2332a03 14008a02

0x0012f6e0 00000000 94544435 d0544435 d4544435 18bb8902 2413b302 20f71200 00aa8700

0x0012f700 448d0500 b2332a03 00000080 60f71200 88ab9d00 34f71200 00000000 00000000

0x0012f720 60f71200 b6ab9d00 149a4335 140c8a02 00100000 b0022a00 00020000 00000000

Instruction data: (EIP is 0x006a5b2a)

0x006a5aaa 00 8b 74 24 10 8d 8e 10 02 00 00 c1 e1 04 03 c8 8d 54 24 20 89 4c 24 20 83 c7 1c 52 8b cf e8 d3

0x006a5aca d5 ff ff d9 44 24 14 d8 00 c1 e6 04 81 c6 01 10 00 00 8b cf d9 18 8d 44 24 20 50 89 74 24 24 e8

0x006a5aea b2 d5 ff ff d9 44 24 24 d8 00 5f 5e 5d d9 18 5b 83 c4 0c c2 08 00 8b 16 8b ce ff 92 a4 00 00 00

0x006a5b0a 8b 4f 3c 8b 11 50 8b 44 24 28 8b 00 50 ff 52 78 8b 4f 3c 8b 11 50 89 44 24 24 ff 92 80 00 00 00

0x006a5b2a 8b 10 8b c8 ff 52 34 8b 10 53 55 8b c8 ff 52 1c 0f bf c0 89 44 24 24 db 44 24 24 d8 0d a4 23 a8

0x006a5b4a 00 d9 54 24 24 d8 1d 54 10 a8 00 df e0 f6 c4 05 7a 0a c7 44 24 24 00 00 00 00 eb 19 d9 44 24 24

0x006a5b6a d8 1d 28 12 a8 00 df e0 f6 c4 41 75 08 c7 44 24 24 00 00 80 3f 8b 5c 24 20 8b 16 6a 00 53 8b ce

0x006a5b8a ff 92 c8 00 00 00 0f b7 c0 89 44 24 20 8d 4c 24 24 db 44 24 20 43 51 8d 4f 1c d8 4c 24 28 89 5c

can sumone tell me what's rong whit that ?( this is the SimCity Exception Report 2011.01.29 21.40.57)

it keep ctd !!!

[poshbakerloo 186]

I guess I'm pretty lucky! I have had problems in the past, but I think its been problems with certain cities rather than my hardware. I have had cities that crash on loading, I deleted it then started over and all was fine...

For the record I have...

AMD Turion 64 x2 2.2Ghz

4Gb RAM

128Mb GeForce 8400M GS

320GB HDD

Windows 7 Pro 64bit

17" Screen

Right now it works fine and I don't have to change anything. The only time it ever crashes is when I use the NAM, and do that thing where you drag 2 transport enabled objects over each other, but I think that is a known fault!

[A Nonny Moose 8,262]

Well, it is the usual dump. A dereferenced zero pointer. Not very useful since we don't have the debug symbol table, so they all look pretty much alike.

Please describe your machine, operating system and the size of plugins suite. I can see from this that you have 2GB of real and are on windows NT 6.1 with the most recent version of the game fully patched. NT6.1 if I remember correctly is either Vista or XP. It might even be Windows 7, as all of the current stuff is built on the old NT3.1 base.

While you shouldn't need much, if any, virtual space, you do have to accommodate any background tasks' memory demands, so I'd suggest setting it up to a permanent size of 4,095MB. Disk space is cheap.

Because none of us has the debug symbols, nor the source for this game, there is no point in posting anything past the register panel in future. Please refrain from posting full exception reports as they just take up server space to no purpose.

What were you doing when the crash occurred?

[ozdaniel 4]

Well, it is the usual dump. A dereferenced zero pointer. Not very useful since we don't have the debug symbol table, so they all look pretty much alike.

Please describe your machine, operating system and the size of plugins suite. I can see from this that you have 2GB of real and are on windows NT 6.1 with the most recent version of the game fully patched. NT6.1 if I remember correctly is either Vista or XP. It might even be Windows 7, as all of the current stuff is built on the old NT3.1 base.

While you shouldn't need much, if any, virtual space, you do have to accommodate any background tasks' memory demands, so I'd suggest setting it up to a permanent size of 4,095MB. Disk space is cheap.

Because none of us has the debug symbols, nor the source for this game, there is no point in posting anything past the register panel in future. Please refrain from posting full exception reports as they just take up server space to no purpose.

What were you doing when the crash occurred?

i have windows 7 home premium

intel core i5 cpu 3.33GHz

ard disk: trabite

ram: 4gb

and the plugin is 8 gb

  Edited March 5, 2011 by ozdaniel  

[A Nonny Moose 8,262]

i have windows 7 home premium

intel core i5 cpu 3.33GHz

ard disk: trabite

ram: 4gb

and the plugin is 8 gb

Thanks. Everyone except the marketing people at Microsoft seem to want to call this version NT 6.1. I think that message is pretty succinct.

With 8GB of plugins and only 4GB of ram, and the game being totally memory resident, where do you think your plugins have to go? Onto the swap file, that's where. You probably need a pretty big swap file. Might I suggest something on the order of 10GB if your 8GB is the in-memory size of your plugins. You seem to be trying to get an elephant into a bread box. How can you possibly manage all those plugins and have any kind of usable menu system?

You should prune any that you never use or never have used. You sound like you have a case of "gee I want that one because its pretty" syndrome. Each and every one of them should have been tested when your got it to see if it worked with the ones you already had. Did you do that? If not, I suggest you put them all into a different place and start adding them one by one until you find the one that is causing your problem.

[Darkfakt 0]

Hello mates

My SC4 deluxe is a super fan of the CTD. I saved just before the crash to make some test and I tried all the things you said in this topic, nothing work... The CTD happen when I put a Police station. I had sometimes a CTD in others cities with a road or other things.

I have Win 7 home premium 64 bit

its a gaming laptop

Intel Core I5 M560 2.67 Ghz 4 core

4 GB RAM

ATI mobility radeon HD 5650 1GB

It seems there is no way for me, i tried everything i found on web. I have an XP sp3 session on my VM virtual box emulator on Win 7. Maybe its better i try on XP? Win 7 will disturb the RAM with 2 OS running at the same time?

If somebody knows the way to stop this CTD, please, help

  Edited May 31, 2011 by Darkfakt  

[jacksunny 741]

@Darkfakt:

I have a couple questions for you:

1. Is it a Maxis police station you are trying to place or is it a custom one?

2. You said you are trying to run simcity on a VM. Will it work if you run it on Windows 7 (Not on the virtual machine)?

[A Nonny Moose 8,262]

Well, for openers, the first poster should edit the opening post by pulling the text into an HTML editor like KompoZer, switch from source to final, and copy only the text into the post. All that HTML hurts my eyes.

I have run this program on:

Windows XP SP2 on a very small machine with good NVidia graphics.

On that same machine I switched to Linux/wine (2.1) no problems. Later, my GPU went out of support so ...

I upgraded, and now I have an Athlon X2 dual core 64-bit Linux decor with an ATI 3000 GPU, 4GB RAM and 10GB swap space.

Currently runs fine on the wine 1.3.21 beta in software rendering. Will also run for a short time on hardware rendering, but the lack of wine's ability to supply more than one back-buffer (an admitted failing) eventually corrupts the hardware graphics. The game is very stable, and only the usual zero pointer dereference crashes occur. I suffer this by saving often (CTRL+s).

I suspect that all the people who have trouble running, simply don't understand that this is a legacy program that requires tender, loving care to run at all under operating systems later than Window XP SP3, and on fancy hardware that didn't exist in the implementation time-frame (2002).

My external settings for this game are:

wine runs as Windows 2003 with a virtual desktop.

My ATI card is set up to only use its features when called for by the program that is being loaded. SC4 uses none of them.

My dual core doesn't care. I have sat in the system monitor and watched it cheerfully swap between the two processors, but only one is assigned at a time. In my 4GB with a lot of background stuff running, I hardly ever see access to the swap file when the program is on. It does grow over 2 GB in load size for a big city full of objects, but my plugin load is only around 300MB. Huge plugin suites may very well cause swapping. Watch the disk light, and find out. If there is a lot of disk activity after the city is loaded, you are swapping. It is possible to hang in a deadly embrace, but unlikely. But swapping will slow the game down quite a bit.

I suggest that if you have multi-processor problems, you look in your BIOS first to see if you are forcing multi-threading when you should not. Then check your operating system's update status. You may need an O/S fix.

[Darkfakt 0]

1. Is it a Maxis police station you are trying to place or is it a custom one?

Its the normal Maxis Large deluxe police station. Everytime I put it, it crash.

2. You said you are trying to run simcity on a VM. Will it work if you run it on Windows 7 (Not on the virtual machine)?

I made some test today.

It was running on the normal Windows Seven. I have two computers. I tried the same save file on win XP sp 3 installed on VMware fusion on a MAC Leopard Intel 2.66 ghz Intel Core 2 Duo 4 GB DDR3

with a NVidia Geforce 9400.

I had the same crash.

I tried the 'one core fix' on the line in priorities of the short cut I found on this thread : http://simcityforum.com/showthread.php?t=500&page=3

So i can say its not a OS problem. I have the same problem on XP and win 7.

Its not a memory problem, i have 4 GB on both computer and i picked up my virtual memory at 8192 MB.

I did the Ctrl shift esc and i always checked, only one core is checked.

No, its just this [Edit: Language - CaptCity] station... when i put it, it crash.

I dont have many plugin installed. The NAM and some functionnal things i tried, less than 200 MB.

I tried to put out the plugins and all others stuff but the problem still remain...

Maybe SC4 just has some problems no?

  Edited June 1, 2011 by CaptCity  
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