SciFi TV

[Meg 368]

Originally posted by: blade2k5

 Maybe a mod could meld your post into that thread to keep everything neat and orderly.quote>

Good plan.  Done 

[blade2k5 1,523]

Originally posted by: Meg

Originally posted by: blade2k5

 Maybe a mod could meld your post into that thread to keep everything neat and orderly.quote>

Good plan.  Done 

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Just trying to help  Maybe change the thread title to "Sci-Fi TV & Film" might also help as well

[blade2k5 1,523]

For those who care, Caprica returns Tuesday, October 5, 10pm EST instead of in January, following SGU.  Finally, something to watch on Sci-Fi again, Caprica that is.  Have no interest in SGU anymore.

[Ocram's Razr 964]

I love Caprica but StarGate Universe never appealed to me. I tried watching it a couple times but I still prefer StarGate SG-1. I also like Eureka.

[Easy Bakes 253]

Im still catching up on Werehouse 13

[A Nonny Moose 8,262]

Well, SGU is a total bust.  I'd rather watch old episodes of SG1.  Even SGA was rather weak.  The problem with the whole SG series is that they ran out of bad guys, and then had to invent more monsters who were not the greatest.  Star Trek did a better job with aversaries and nemeses.  Maybe it is time to revive an updated Star Trek with its no-money, universal sufferage, raceless beings.  Greatly smaks of Doc Smith's Lensmen series.

Caprica I don't know.  I've only seen one episode, and it seemed like a spaced soap opera to me.  Ongoing dramas in my era are called soap operas because the sponsors (on radio) were soap makers, for example, "Oxydol's own Ma Perkins".  On in the middle of the day to catch the busy housewife, around lunch time.

As for Eureka, it is a riot.  What a large bunch of screw-ups they are depicting.  If science really ran that way, we'd probably be a lot further ahead than we are now.  I especially like the kids with IQ's over 140.  Oh, and you mustn't forget Martha, the armed and ready (intelligent) UAV.

[blade2k5 1,523]

I just watched the season 1.5 trailer for Caprica and it looks like things are going to pick up significantly. Hopefully they renew it for a second season, though they did extend the actors contracts through November. One can only hope.

[blade2k5 1,523]

Just a reminder to those who are interested, Stargate Universe begins Season 2 tomorrow night on the Indenity Crisis Channel...err...Sci-Fi.

[beebs 129]

Originally posted by: blade2k5

Just a reminder to those who are interested, Stargate Universe begins Season 2 tomorrow night on the Indenity Crisis Channel...err...Sci-Fi.

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I've been faithfully watching this season, and they're definitely moving the story along on multiple fronts, really enjoying it (a suprise, I'm sure. .) Ratings are less than stellar in the States from what I've heard, but I have to wonder how much of that is due to the date change - It's still airing on Fridays in Canada, and our ratings for the premiere were up 16% over last season's finale.

[blade2k5 1,523]

SGU and Caprica will most likely not be renewed for new seasons after this. SGU pulled in just over a million viewers this past Tues and Caprica had 850K.

[Easy Bakes 253]

Originally posted by: blade2k5

SGU and Caprica will most likely not be renewed for new seasons after this. SGU pulled in just over a million viewers this past Tues and Caprica had 850K.quote>

Wonder what they expected moving these shows to tuesday nights, when they have been on fridays for years and years. they still dont count as views people who record shows ill bet the numbers are much higher if they counted those. Guess thay had to mke room for more ghostbusters shows.

 

I just finished werehouse 13 season 2. Not a bad show at all.

[beebs 129]

Originally posted by: Easy Bakes

Originally posted by: blade2k5

SGU and Caprica will most likely not be renewed for new seasons after this. SGU pulled in just over a million viewers this past Tues and Caprica had 850K.quote>

Wonder what they expected moving these shows to tuesday nights, when they have been on fridays for years and years. they still dont count as views people who record shows ill bet the numbers are much higher if they counted those. Guess thay had to mke room for more ghostbusters shows.

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They do track those numbers in a seperate category, but they aren't heavily accounted for in the renewal process... fast forwarding the commercials and all that.

[Shadow Assassin 336]

As for SGU not being renewed for another season, I wouldn't be surprised. It's just... not really classic sci-fi, more like a glorified soap opera about people trapped on a ship (which incidentally sounds a bit familiar *coughBattlestarGalacticacough*). It's different from Star Trek, at least in Star Trek they got to do interesting things rather than sitting around whining about how crap it is being stuck on a ship in the middle of an unknown galaxy. It just doesn't float my boat, to be honest.

I would love to see another old-style SG series, instead of this pandering to the "teen" demographic with "deep" characters that have "issues". I never finished watching the first season because I got so bored of it and quite honestly, I'd rather bring out my SG-1 and Atlantis DVDs out of the closet and watch them.

Perhaps if MGM listened to what people wanted, they wouldn't be in such dire financial straits?

[Meg 368]

Originally posted by: Shadow_Assassin

. . .  and quite honestly, I'd rather bring out my SG-1 and Atlantis DVDs out of the closet and watch them.quote>

Same here.   I did not have those DVDs so I'm slowly getting them off ebay and other second hand sources.    The Atlantis ones come with language alternatives so I'm watching each episode twice, once with English audio and Spanish subtitles, and once with Spanish audio and Spanish subtitles.  I figure if I go through the entire series some of the Spanish will sink it.  

 

One thing that is annoying:  the Spanish audio and the Spanish subtitles do not match.   I am a rookie at this language but even I can tell when they say "Muy bien" and the subtitle reads "Claro".    and it's interesting watching how they translate things.  "Adelante" seems to mean anything from "Roger that" to "Move out" to "Go for it".    In the subtitles, "jumper" is "saltadora" but in the audio, it's "nave".   and so forth.    and I can't even begin to follow the rapid fire Spanish when McKay starts carrying on about things.

A slow process but I'm telling myself it's a side benefit from watching old TV shows. It's more interesting than most language classes anyway.   We'll see how long I last at this.  So far I've made to Season 1, Volume 2.  

[A Nonny Moose 8,262]

I think you'd be better off with some Spanish speaking friends who would not speak Iglis to you except in dire emergencies.  The best way to learn a language is by active interaction, not passive struggle with a bad set of sub-titles messing you up to boot.

Are you learning Spanish for a reason or just for interest?  Up here the big issue is French.  You have to cope with a minimum of three dialects:  Parisian for government; Joual in Quebec; and l'Acadie in northern New Brunswick.  Then there are French immigrants, who I don't see much in my area.  They are likely to be from the south of France, and are loaded with another surprise, Langue d'Oc (a mixture of Parisian and Aquitane, with some Spanish/Basqe stuff thrown in). 

What makes learning a living language rather nasty is the number of dialects and usages.  I assume you are learning the official Spanish as spoken in the capital of the country, but then you get specialties like Catalan with Basque mixed in.  Such fun.

I rather liked Latin, because it is dead as a doornail.  Only two different pronunciations to deal with: the didactic Germanic pronunciation which was taught when I was in school (Kaisar, Kickero), and the softer Catholic Church pronunciation which is more like Italian (Seesar, Sisero).  Anyway, a little doggerel you may not have seen.  Four years of high-school Latin got me through two years of university level Italian, anyway.  Italian has a different dialect in every village and town.

Latin is a language as dead as dead can be.

First it killed the Romans and now its killing me.

[Meg 368]

Originally posted by: A Nonny Moose

I think you'd be better off with some Spanish speaking friends who would not speak Iglis to you except in dire emergencies.  The best way to learn a language is by active interaction, not passive struggle with a bad set of sub-titles messing you up to boot.

Are you learning Spanish for a reason or just for interest? quote>

Mostly just for interest.   I would like to be able to understand it when I hear it.  Obviously, the method I'm using is not going to result in speaking it fluently (or speaking it much at all) or understanding it fluently.    If I was serious about it, I'd use a better method but I think it's an interesting experiment to see how much I can pick up this way.

It is already the case that I understand more reading it than listening to it.  It seems to me that the audio is going very fast.  but I am starting to understand audio words even when they don't match the subtitles.  or maybe especially when they don't match the subtitles.   For instance, in one case, the spoken word was obviously Spanish for "vacation" while the subtitle obviously was the Spanish for "days free".

My high school homeroom teacher wanted me to take Latin.  (Of course, she was the Latin teacher.)  Now, I wish I had.   I can see some of the common roots in words.   The spoken word for "jumper" is "nave", which is pronouced "nah-vey".    Not that big a leap to the english word "navy" which implies "ships".

I'll probably have to break down and study verb tenses but I'll worry about that later.

[blade2k5 1,523]

Originally posted by: Shadow_Assassin

As for SGU not being renewed for another season, I wouldn't be surprised. It's just... not really classic sci-fi, more like a glorified soap opera about people trapped on a ship (which incidentally sounds a bit familiar *coughBattlestarGalacticacough*). It's different from Star Trek, at least in Star Trek they got to do interesting things rather than sitting around whining about how crap it is being stuck on a ship in the middle of an unknown galaxy. It just doesn't float my boat, to be honest.

I would love to see another old-style SG series, instead of this pandering to the "teen" demographic with "deep" characters that have "issues". I never finished watching the first season because I got so bored of it and quite honestly, I'd rather bring out my SG-1 and Atlantis DVDs out of the closet and watch them.

Perhaps if MGM listened to what people wanted, they wouldn't be in such dire financial straits?quote>

BSG a soap opera?  Now if you mean 'seriel' when you say soap opera, then ok, but when you say soap opera I'm thinking of that crap on daytime tv like The Young and the Restless and garbage like that.  In my opinion, the re-imagined BSG was the best damned sci-fi series on tv ever, bar none.

As for SGU, the writers are trying to copy BSG's formula and failing miserably at it, though I gave the full first season a watch.  I, like you, prefer SG-1 and Altantis in the Stargate Universe.

Warehouse 13 and Caprica are the only two sci-fi series I watch currently as there's no other sci-fi on tv worth the time to watch.

[Easy Bakes 253]

Originally posted by: blade2k5

In my opinion, the re-imagined BSG was the best damned sci-fi series on tv ever, bar none.

Warehouse 13 and Caprica are the only two sci-fi series I watch currently as there's no other sci-fi on tv worth the time to watch.quote>

Ill have to throw Babylon 5 out there as better then BSG.

Just based on charactor development thu the 5 years run they both had, almost every major charactor went thru a significant emotional/personality change by the end of the series.

I Don't think you can say that about BSG.

I also like Sanctuary but not sure if its been renewed.

I realy hate whats happened to Scifi channel lately, the list of  substandrd B monster movies, canceling shows that have promise afer one or 2 seasons.The onslaught on wrasslin and the ghost shows ughh.

they would  probaly get better ratings rolling ST:TNG or DS9 out there.

[blade2k5 1,523]

Originally posted by: Easy Bakes

Ill have to throw Babylon 5 out there as better then BSG.

Just based on charactor development thu the 5 years run they both had, almost every major charactor went thru a significant emotional/personality change by the end of the series.

I Don't think you can say that about BSG.quote>

But I can say and did say that about BSG, but it's my opinion and others can disagree all they want to.  Never cared for B5 all that much, I found Farscape to be much better than B5, but neither was nearly as good as BSG, again, my opinion.  Oh, and BSG ran for four seasons, not five.

Originally posted by: Easy Bakes

I also like Sanctuary but not sure if its been renewed.quote>

I can't answer that question because I haven't paid any attention to Sanctuary, but I can find out and let you know once Sci-Fi announces whether it gets another season or they're cancelling it.  I know right now it's airing new episodes on Friday nights after Smackdown.  Actually, that could help it's ratings, but we'll see.

Originally posted by: Easy BakesI realy hate whats happened to Scifi channel lately, the list of  substandrd B monster movies, canceling shows that have promise afer one or 2 seasons.The onslaught on wrasslin and the ghost shows ughh.

they would  probaly get better ratings rolling ST:TNG or DS9 out there.quote>

Wrestling don't bother me all that much, but those lame reality ghost and other non sci-fi shows they have are utter crap.  I don't call it the Sci-Fi Channel anymore.  I now call it ICC, the Idenity Crisis Channel.

[Easy Bakes 253]

God I wish someone would run Farscape begining to end again. That ran back when i didnt have cable for a while.

That and the last 3 seasons of Andromeda.

[blade2k5 1,523]

Originally posted by: Easy Bakes

God I wish someone would run Farscape begining to end again. That ran back when i didnt have cable for a while.

That and the last 3 seasons of Andromeda.quote>

Farscape started off real slow for the first couple of seasons, but got better near the end of its run.  I wonder if they're on dvd or not....I'll have to go take a look.

[Shadow Assassin 336]

BSG a soap opera? Now if you mean 'seriel' when you say soap opera, then ok, but when you say soap opera I'm thinking of that crap on daytime tv like The Young and the Restless and garbage like that. In my opinion, the re-imagined BSG was the best damned sci-fi series on tv ever, bar none.quote>

While I've got no real feeling about BSG (never really sat down and watched it)... it just seems so similar... people trapped on a ship and stuff happens... :\ It's not really a soap opera, but just that it's just so angsty (SGU, I mean, not BSG). I don't want to hear about that crap. I want to see a swashbuckling sort of action epic. Not people with issues. It's just how I view TV, I guess, as a form of escapism, not a reflection of life.

[blade2k5 1,523]

Originally posted by: Shadow_Assassin

BSG a soap opera? Now if you mean 'seriel' when you say soap opera, then ok, but when you say soap opera I'm thinking of that crap on daytime tv like The Young and the Restless and garbage like that. In my opinion, the re-imagined BSG was the best damned sci-fi series on tv ever, bar none.quote>

While I've got no real feeling about BSG (never really sat down and watched it)... it just seems so similar... people trapped on a ship and stuff happens... :\ It's not really a soap opera, but just that it's just so angsty (SGU, I mean, not BSG). I don't want to hear about that crap. I want to see a swashbuckling sort of action epic. Not people with issues. It's just how I view TV, I guess, as a form of escapism, not a reflection of life.quote>

SGU in my opinion is a poor...scratch that, a very poor imitation of what BSG was.  SGU will never be as good as BSG was, whether you like or dispise how BSG ended with the supposed 'God did it" nonsense.  Even though BSG has the angst and human drama you don't like all that much [and I can understand that  I, as much as the next person, like escapism, but I also like a bit of reality thrown into the mix once in awhile.], it is still a good story, which is what I really liked about it. 

[Easy Bakes 253]

Originally posted by: blade2k5

Originally posted by: Shadow_Assassin

BSG a soap opera? Now if you mean 'seriel' when you say soap opera, then ok, but when you say soap opera I'm thinking of that crap on daytime tv like The Young and the Restless and garbage like that. In my opinion, the re-imagined BSG was the best damned sci-fi series on tv ever, bar none.quote>

While I've got no real feeling about BSG (never really sat down and watched it)... it just seems so similar... people trapped on a ship and stuff happens... :\ It's not really a soap opera, but just that it's just so angsty (SGU, I mean, not BSG). I don't want to hear about that crap. I want to see a swashbuckling sort of action epic. Not people with issues. It's just how I view TV, I guess, as a form of escapism, not a reflection of life.quote>

SGU in my opinion is a poor...scratch that, a very poor imitation of what BSG was.  SGU will never be as good as BSG was, whether you like or dispise how BSG ended with the supposed 'God did it" nonsense.  Even though BSG has the angst and human drama you don't like all that much [and I can understand that  I, as much as the next person, like escapism, but I also like a bit of reality thrown into the mix once in awhile.], it is still a good story, which is what I really liked about it.  quote>

Dont think  SGU was intended to be a replacement for BSG, Caprica gets that  nod, It was intened to be an additon to the  stargate franchice. Which  like ST during the enterprize phase may have been too played out for it to be popular with out some of the original charactors in biger rolls.

This isnt network TV were you can roll out 5 versions of CSI and Law&Order and still get the

huge ratings from the sheep.

 

[blade2k5 1,523]

Originally posted by: Easy Bakes

Dont think  SGU was intended to be a replacement for BSG, Caprica gets that  nod, It was intened to be an additon to the  stargate franchice. Which  like ST during the enterprize phase may have been too played out for it to be popular with out some of the original charactors in biger rolls.

This isnt network TV were you can roll out 5 versions of CSI and Law&Order and still get the

huge ratings from the sheep.quote>

Doesn't matter whether it was intended or not, the results are the same.  SGU is a copy of BSG, no getting around it.

[blade2k5 1,523]

The ratings for both SGU and Caprica dropped again this week, it's looking like both these shows won't make it to another season, though for Caprica, we'll know for sure in before Nov. 15 which is the day that the actors/actresses contracts expire.

[A Nonny Moose 8,262]

Yawn.  I hope they all have some good prospects.  I think the public expects more than soap operas from science fiction TV.  Somehow, I think a series with more thud and blunder would be better.  And speaking of thud and blunder, does anyone remember Space Cadet from the radiio days?  I don't think it ever made it to the tube.  To improbable, and not much plot at all.

I'd really like a costume epic like A Princess of Mars or Savage Pelucidar.  ERB wrote some nice fantasies.

[beebs 129]

Originally posted by: blade2k5

The ratings for both SGU and Caprica dropped again this week, it's looking like both these shows won't make it to another season, though for Caprica, we'll know for sure in before Nov. 15 which is the day that the actors/actresses contracts expire.quote>

Uh.. SGU increased this week, 14% over last.

And it was indeed a very good episode in my books.

[blade2k5 1,523]

Originally posted by: A Nonny Moose

Yawn. quote>

If you're so tired, maybe you should take a nap  Anyways, ERB did write some good stories, remember reading a lot of his stuff when I was a kid.

Originally posted by: beebs

Uh.. SGU increased this week, 14% over last.quote>

Not according to Sci-Fi it didn't, but these numbers were from yesterday afternoon, so maybe they've been updated or they added the DVR numbers in.

[beebs 129]

Originally posted by: blade2k5

Originally posted by: beebs

Uh.. SGU increased this week, 14% over last.quote>

Not according to Sci-Fi it didn't, but these numbers were from yesterday afternoon, so maybe they've been updated or they added the DVR numbers in.

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Everything I see has it at 1.22 million viewers.. pretty sure DVR numbers come much much later too. Maybe we're looking at different numbers..

Regadless, I'm hoping this turns into an upward trend.