An unusual request

[TV-VCR 14]

I have a bit of a curveball. Is there anyone here that would be willing to do some terraforming?

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/1825/regionim2.jpg

I ask because I am incredibly bad at it. Seriously. I couldn't sculpt a mountain to save my life.

Basically I would send portions of the region to you and you terraform it so that it just... blends in with the rest of it. I wouldn't send any city tiles, of course. The only dependency would be the terrain mod.

Anyone up to it?

[JakeMD 107]

Well I wouldn't mind, but I would have to have as much time as needed

[TV-VCR 14]

Originally posted by: SWAT-MEDIC Well I wouldn't mind, but I would have to have as much time as needed quote>

I'd say at least one tile a week. There's no major rush.

[mrbisonm 1,620]

PM me and if you're not in a rush, you will have one the best terraformers modify your region. All my 57 regions that I have played on are handterraformed, including Nexis of Genesis (link in my signature)

See some others below:

https://www.simtropolis.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=36&threadid=101832&STARTPAGE=2

mrb

[TV-VCR 14]

Originally posted by: mrbisonm PM me and if you're not in a rush, you will have one the best terraformers modify your region. All my 57 regions that I have played on are handterraformed, including Nexis of Genesis (link in my signature)

See some others below:

https://www.simtropolis.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=36&threadid=101832&STARTPAGE=2

mrb

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Cheers MrB. I'll PM you in the morning.

[mrbisonm 1,620]

Glad to be of help

[mrbisonm 1,620]

Ok now, here's some developpement of your region of Woodcrest. Sorry, but I have only been working on it for a couple of hours sofar, but I will give it more time next week.
The region is quite big and all tiles are large, therefor it is a lot of work to work on it and to give it a good finish. I have to enter each tile at least four times to work and reconciliate each time I touch the neighboring tiles, plus another time to do the finishing touches. It'll take a little more time than I thought.

Anyways, here are some pictures.........

Your original region and your plans that you sent me.

Here is an overlook of the same region and what I have been working on. Now, I have a different terrain, rock and watermod in my plugins than you, so that is why the colours are different. Don't worry, when you open them in your game, they will work fine with your all mods.
You see I have started on the north-eastern side of the region and also started to turn your land as demanded on the northern half that will slowly come back to the south to meet the river delta on the northern midwest side.

I included some islands because I thought it might look nice and more realistic and it looks a little more lively than just plein water, plus it will give you some smaller challenges to build on them.

Here are three more closer and detailed pics from the regionview ingame, showing the waterfronts and islands.

Two ingame close-up pictures of two of the islands in the north-east.

As you can see , I have been busy. 11 tiles are already done. Hope you like what you see sofar. If any changes are wanted, this is the time to say so.

Here is what I have in mind White lines in the picture below), following your principal demand of the land. If it is ok, just give me the green light and I will finish it such as. The yellow lines are optional. I had the idea of another island since the water will be very vast in the west.

Now, do you want me to draw the landline down to touch the border of the region to make it look like it is a part of a continent, or do you want me to make it as a big island as it is shown in the picture below? And, do you want the yellow outlined island, or as a part of the same continent ?

Just let me know and I will continue to show pictures right here as I will advance with terraforming your region.

mrb

[TV-VCR 14]

Sent you a PM, MrB.

[Boycey08 0]

nice work mr bison, could i ask, where did you get that water from? im sick of the maxis water

[mrbisonm 1,620]

My water, the one on the top right of the last picture, is called *DarkBlueishGreenish* and I have no idea where I got it from, maybe you could ask for it in the *Where can I find thread*

[mrbisonm 1,620]

Last night again I worked a few hrs on your region and here are the results. I again have some questions though.

1.  Is the riverdelta ok like this?

2. I hope this continuing of the hills is ok too, because that is about the best I can do since I cannot enter your tiles to see what your hills look like.

3. I had the idea to make the river a little more *curvy*. It looked somewhat unreal when I did it straight like in the pics above. Is that ok?

4. I didn't quite understand if I should keep these islands or not in your last PM. No more or other islands will be created though, if you decide to keep these.

.....and again some questions /remarks here in this close-up below.

1. My computer crashes whenever I try to enter your pre-built citytiles. That is the reason why I cannot see what your hills look like from a closer view. Also the fine tuning and reconciliating in your tiles, you will have to do by yourself. So this is the best I could do without spending dozens of hours on the region.

2. There seems to be an enlargement of the river in your citytile, I imagine that is maybe the beginning of a riverlake, or maybe the river gets all of sudden larger there. So, do you want me to create a small lake as I did on the picture below or do you want me to enlarge the whole river and continue as large as in your tile up to the delta above?

Please reply here instead of the PM. I sometimes have several problems with my PM, whether cannot open all messages or can't see pictures, or spent like 15 minutes to send a freakin' message.....etc....thanks

mrb

[TV-VCR 14]

Sorry I haven't posted back MrB, I was having some technical problems. Here in a little bit I'll actually reply.

[mrbisonm 1,620]

After supper today I went back terraforming your region for an hour and below is what I came up with. Getting there slowly....lol.

No rush to answer my questions in the previous post.

I just wanted to know if someone here knows how to eliminate some citytiles from an existing region. I want to delete the bottom two tilerows and the last two left tilerows. How do I go about this?

I tried deleting them in the folder and they reappeared after opening the game, then I deleted them again and reduced the config file also and this didn't work neither.....dohhhh. I need help on this please. Thanks.

mrb

[Boycey08 0]

obliterate them

[jacqulina 162]

very nice fred sorry cant help you with the prob though my friend

[mrbisonm 1,620]

All cities are already obliterated, but still they show up as plein tiles.........

[McDuell 301]

AFAIK, you can resize an existing region, but only at the bottom and the right. So if you want to modify your region, do the following:

1. Backup your region

2. Delete the 4 bottom pixel rows in the config.bmp (if you want to get rid of 2 medium tilerows) and save the cropped config again.

-> The next time you load your region in the game, the two bottom rows will be gone, along with any city tiles you might already have developed in this part. The corresponding city files will simply vanish from the file system (thus the backup procedure in case anything should go wrong ... ).

Unfortunately, you can't crop a region on the left side, so this leaves 2 possibilities: Either you don't change the region further, or you have to create a new empty (smaller) region, copy all your existing city tiles to the download folder and re-import them into the new region at the correct place.

Hope this made some sense

[TV-VCR 14]

1. Can you make it less wide?

2. Looks fine so far.

3. Sure. It's bit too curvy though. See my map below.

4. Keep 'em, with the exception of those two big islands the furthest down.

1. Odd. Even the ones without any buildings?

2. That's not a lake. That's just the river sharply bending over to the left. See my map below.

1. Smooth this out a bit.

2. Yes, keep these.

3. Make this a little more natural looking.

4ab.  I'll send obliterated versions of the tiles to you. Hopefully you'll be able to get into them after.

5. Move the river over a bit.

6. See the area between the dark green and green lines? Make that area's height bigger. Also make it kind of hilly (not too hilly though).

Thanks for doing this.

[mrbisonm 1,620]

Thanks McDuell for the info, much appreciated. I will try to get rid of the bottom tiles, I only need to get rid of two, and the left tiles will simply stay there and for TV-VCR to decide what he wants to do with them, it's his region and I don't have that much time to remake the whole region neither in a smaller version.

I already spend  6 hours to redo the region, and the fine details like higher hills, reconciliating the edges and creating the limits of hills, water and river to the exact place where you want it etc, you will have to do your part TV-VCR. 

I only have so much time and do not feel like spending soo many hours on your region. This is a lot of work and I only hope that you understand.

Some things I simply cannot do , or will not, like tossing over the river to the left, because of the citytiles edges. If I toss the river as much as you want it, then it will be right on the borderline of two tiles and I don't know if you ever worked with the terraforming tools, this will be way too much work to jump from one tile to another ever 10 or 15 gridtiles. You simply will have to do it yourself later. The river already is more to the left on these citytiles.  I will do as much and as close as I can see on your map and is possible to do always keeping the citytiles and playspace in mind.

Hope that will be sufficient.

Ok now, I will make the delta smaller and delete the twin islands in the middle east of the map and remake the river to a slightly straighter line.

Yes I cannot enter any citytile that has been entered by you before or that has been terraformed, only flatland tiles are ok for me to open, all others crash my game instantly. I have no idea why.

1. Smooth this out a bit.

2. Yes, keep these.

3. Make this a little more natural looking.

4ab.  I'll send obliterated versions of the tiles to you. Hopefully you'll be able to get into them after.

5. Move the river over a bit.

6. See the area between the dark green and green lines? Make that area's height bigger. Also make it kind of hilly (not too hilly though)..quote>

1. no problem

2. ok

3. It is natural looking now, I will straighten it a bit more though (always considering the reconciliation between tiles which make it very difficult in these circumstances when the land runs on an angle into another citytile, especially when the lines hit *four corners*.) I consider myself a real pro when it comes to terraforming, since I have created entirely more that 60 x-large regions sofar from flatland, some of them well known (such as Nexis of Genesis, Norland, GRV). So I will do my best on yours without taking dozens of hrs to finish.

4. I don't know if this will work but it surely is worth a try.

5. Like I said above I cannot toss it over too much otherwise it will run on two tiles.

6. A little wider you said is no problem, but you will get a sharp right curve because the bottom tile has no hills for me to continue.  And hilly it is already. I will show you a close up picture of the hilly tiles in my next reply.

I will be back working on the region on Friday.

mrb

[TV-VCR 14]

Well, at least remove that big bend in the river (the sharp one that looks like a V). And with 6, just make it gradual. You don't have to make it change all of a sudden.

[mrbisonm 1,620]

.....working on it...........

[Kevin 101]

Originally posted by: mrbisonm .....working on it........... quote>

Fantastic work... I can't imagine hand-terraforming on this scale. You do have a talent

[TV-VCR 14]

Actually... with 4a, see that tile to the left of it? Just do the transition on that unused tile. Transition it down to that land height. The tile above the unused tile has that height so you should be able to just hit the reconcile button and get that specific height (of course, after you terraform the tile below 4a). Also, as for tiles like 4b, I'll just take care of that myself.

Cheers. You're doing this marvelously so far.

[mrbisonm 1,620]

Cheese89, Thanks for the compliment, I have been doing all my regions this way

TV-VCR

Actually... with 4a, see that tile to the left of it? Just do the transition on that unused tile.quote>

Impossible to enter any tiles that have been worked on or that have already some terraforming on it, my game will not allow me to. That goes for the 4a tile and the one left of it . The only one I will be able to work on is the one below the 4a tile. The rest you will have to do, all 15 tiles.

mrb

[TV-VCR 14]

Try this on for size:

http://rapidshare.com/files/166026386/Woodcrest.zip.html

I did some obliteratin'.

[Strategist01 0]

wow, this whole process is just simply amazing! Mr.B, you are a master at terraforming (pity about the crashes though)! keep up the good work! btw, wonder if terraforming could be considered art? i mean you get digital art, so this would count right? just my random mind wandering(randomly)...

[mrbisonm 1,620]

Strategist01, thanks for the compliments. If we could consider this as art? My opinion probably is yes, since all manual of things we do are considered as some kind of art. Besides I am a loghome designer and Artist of fauna (Artiste faunique in french) which both need some sort of artistic talent. But most of all, I love doing this and that is probably because why I am good with it.
I have a thread that I started in the CJ section (57 regions and 1 Governor) where I started explaining all the secrets about regions from creating  them to playing in them. You will be able to quite a big choice of several interesting and even some unique ones, later this winter. HERE


TV-VCR, Your new upload doesn't work for me neither. Everytime when I try to enter again any tile that has been terraformed or played in, it is a certain crash of the game. I really don't know why, I even tried to change terrainmods and/or without any mods at all and no success. Sorry, you just have to reconciliate and terraform these by yourself.

I have had some time again this evening after supper and was able to work the region again. Most of the right side of the map is done now. (East)
You can see that I straightened the river as much as I could, straightened out the eastern coastline (as you draw it on your pic) from downtown3 up to the river's outlet, finished the hills in several tiles and terraformed the bottom right tile also.



Here is a picture with the tile lines, just to show you that I had no other choices for the river position nor parts of the eastern coast, always respecting that coasts and rivers stay more or less in the middle of each tile for easier play. Also, the RED CROSSES indicate all the tiles which I cannot enter without crashing.



Here is closer look at the hills that I created that seem to fit quite well with the original hills, so well that we have actually difficulties to see where the earlier hills were. Looks good imo.

.....and a last picture, a real close up of that river junction which I personally do not like at all. Hard to tell exactly how it is formed without being able to enter that existing tile (below it) and when you said that the river has a sharp curve, I continued as it should be and as I could imagine, but I don't like it.



So, do I leave it like this, or do I just continue the river straight from my tile on and You will redo your part of the tile without bothering with the curve at all in your tile and do the reconciliating?

I will be working on it again later this weekend, showing some more pics tomorrow or Sunday.
Meanwhile have a nice weekend. I think now that the region will be finished within the next five or so days.


mrb

Edit: Geeeeez, this site is far from going well and tonight it doesn't seem to like AOL at all. I had to edit this freakin' post three times to get all the pics and all the paragraphs in it together..... (Quel Bordel !!!)...

[TV-VCR 14]

quote>

...wow. You did those hills perfectly.

Also, as for the river, you're done with that. When I get the region back I will just tweak the river to my liking. Good job on it.

[mrbisonm 1,620]

Glad you like it so far. I'll be back soon with the rest of it and you'll be able to continue playing on it before the next week starts.

I had some more time tonight and finished the coastal area of the west, all is left to do are the hills as indicated.

Now, if you want a bay, small river/ lake/ swamp, island or anything else on the western half.......this is the time to tell me.

I was able to delete the two bottom tilerows of the region (Just make sure that you keep the new config file), but cannot do anything for the left side.  Either I can make all watertiles out of it or you try to create a smaller region and then transfer the files one by one as McDuell described above. (I tried but it is too much work for me)

And now it's ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz time.

  mrb

[TV-VCR 14]

Actually,

And yeah, just make water tiles out of those other ones.