Preformance over 200k sims

[dx-warlock 0]

I've been playing SC4 for many years, and lurking around the forums here for quite a while, but now actually deciding to speak up with an issue ove noticed.

Is it just the nature of the game to get very slow after 100k-200k sims on a single map when running on anything other than normal speed?

Its not a lag issue, or framerate issue. Game runs great and smooth, just time progression slows to a crawl. my city time passes faster on normal speed at the start than it does on cheetah speed when I get that many people.

On cheetah speed, it may take as long as 2 minutes for one day to pass. Is there any settings to tweak this?

Game Setup:
SC4 and RH
Most Recent NAM addon with 5x and pathfinding

My specs are
AMD 6400+
4Gigs ram
nvidia 8800GT
and Raptor 10,000RPM drive

So im sure its not a system bottleneck.
Im assuming its just a game issue with that many sims to calculate routes for.

Any Ideas?

[seopro007 0]

Mind seems fine, i've got like 250,000 in each of my city square blocks.

AMD processors aren't all that good, they get really hot and slows down the overall performance.

You're better off investing in a Dual Core or Quad Core Intel Processor. Must faster, more reliable, and performance kicks butt.

[seopro007 0]

Mind seems fine, i've got like 250,000 in each of my city square blocks.

AMD processors aren't all that good, they get really hot and slows down the overall performance.

You're better off investing in a Dual Core or Quad Core Intel Processor. Must faster, more reliable, and performance kicks butt.

[seopro007 0]

Oops, sorry for double post, this forum is dead slow. takes like 3-5 minutes for a page to load.

[dx-warlock 0]

I dont think its a AMD vs Intel issue either.

Its not heat, 32C idle 37c Full load. 

And for preformance, maybe if I was playing crysis 1900x1600 16xAF and 8xAA the intel gain might show some extra FPS.

Ive had both, until Intel gets off its high horse wanting 1 grand for a extreme series, 

(thats a cost/performance ratio gain of about 95 bucks per FPS in most games)

im sticking with AMD

Dont blame AMD for a game preformance issue with is none related. Its Coke vs Pepsi when it comes to sc4 issues. just which is your favorite flavor.

Not trying to down you by any means, just suggesting dont give CPU perference information that would be misleading to the cause of the problem to someone else that may be reading if they wasnt tech savy.

[seopro007 0]

I think it is. I'm an IT Engineer by profession. All of the customers I have had who have had problems with their PC games, my first question is, is there CPU an AMD, 9 times out of 10 it is, since it's cheap and nasty. After I convinced them to upgrade to a Intel, things were much better. Sure, Intel are expensive, but there's a reason why. Intel's last a lot longer than AMD, AMD as i say, are cheap and nasty and you get what ya paid for. C**P.

[dx-warlock 0]

Never mind, came here for help with a specific game issue, not to get AMD vs Intel fanboy replies.

Not trying to change your views on your CPU.

Its a matter of tastes, I run a Niche Mod PC store here locally in my town. 

True Intel is beating AMD hands down in top end preformance and is king of the hill, but please do not try to equate that into 
"all your problems are related you not owning an Intel chip"

You knowledge is one thing, your Bias and relation to problems related to that bias are apples and oranges.

[seopro007 0]

Well, I know for a fact it's your AMD, whether or not I like Intel. I know how to design logic chips and I know exactly how they work.

Why don't you get a dry ice cooler system to cool the CPU down, or remove the CPU, put more heat resistant gel / compound on the CPU, you're supposed to do this twice in the first year for maximum heat dissipation.

Or try getting a ThermalTake cooling tower system. It's what I use and CPU temp is around 17-21 degrees.

[dx-warlock 0]

I have zalman 9500a with artic silver compound replaced 1 month ago when I Did some wire managment and organization.

Thanks for you input.

But ill think Ill just watch the topic until someone without a foaming rabid mouth for AMD chips pops in.

My shop office Comp is an Intel build, and same issues arise on it when im there playing. I dont only get it when Im home, otherwise I would have narrowed it down to your conclusion also.

And please, for the last time, dont let your "AMD r teh suxor!" mentality fog your judgements on a game related issue.

And your seriously suggesting I get a water or freon cooling system to fix my issue? that like suggesting to one of my customers they get water cooling because they have an AMD and MS office crashes randomly.

[psander5 195]

I have this problem too... and I have an Intel Dual-Core.

I don't have any answers for you, dx-warlock, but thanks for asking the question... I'll wait to see if there's any answer to this too!

Oh, and welcome out of the shadows! I did the same thing a couple of months ago, and i've not looked back since. There's a great wealth of knowlege around here (myself not included!). It's much more fruitful and enjoyable when you take part.

[dx-warlock 0]

Thanks

Yea, ive learned more about SC4 in the last year poking around here than I did the few years I was playing the vanilla setup.

SC4 is one of the games I never get tired of, when a new game comes and I get over the "wow look at the new eye candy" of it..I always come back to SC4.

Loved SC since the first one back when my 386 33mhz was top of the line and windows 3.11

Hopefully someone has a clue on why it does this. maybe its a plugin conflict, ive even tried setting affinity settings to restrict to one core, no help.

[seopro007 0]

You're not supposed to remove it, it's supposed to go over the top.

I think you should learn how to use a pc properly. Then you wont have performance problems.

[dx-warlock 0]

 

Originally posted by: seopro007 You're not supposed to remove it, it's supposed to go over the top.

I think you should learn how to use a pc properly. Then you wont have performance problems.quote>

 

not remove what? the compound? So me removing the stock cooling pad to replace it with arctic silver was wrong, and in turn means I don't know how to use a PC properly,and such causes my sim city to have problems?

After reading the forums for over a year, and it being a helpful friendly community, why is it I find the one e-peen waving alpha male wannabe after my first post going in a round about way "LAWL learn to use Intel *****z, thats why you r suxxor are running games"

seriously, why they challenge, comparison, and threats of  "i need to learn to use a PC"?

what did I do to you?

Get off your testosterone driven elitism in assuming no one knows anything about computers other than you, and either contribute positively to the post, or move on.  The WoW forums are that way  if you want to troll---->

I just asked a simple question about a problem it seems not only I am having.

[Roy123 0]

Never did get an answer to this but because i have had similar problems in the past i have managed to solve it somewhat, although its not perhaps going to solve the problem for all game it might help for SC4 to run.

Defrage you computer, disk clean up, clear cookies and temp files, all this is what i have to do at least once a week in order to play Microsoft Flight Simulator X without too much problems. I also have AMD processor and haven't had any problems with mine, in fact my partner had an Intel processor and she struggled to get FSX to load as it would crash after a few minutes back to the desktop, the battle between AMD and Intel can and should only be brought up with games that require high end computer's and FSX is one such game.

Anyway hope this helps sort your problem out, the only other thing i can think of is you've put to much in your plugins folder which i read somewhere can and will slow your computer down and can even course it to crash to the desktop.

P.S. does anyone know if their will be another expantion pack for SC4 or are they making SC5 now?

[bwebster82 1]

My SC4 seems to have the same problem, and it seems to be directly related to the number/type of plugins or mods you are running since it didn't do it on a clean install.

And agreed on the AMD/Intel flame wars. AMD Athlon/Turion 64 X2 and Intel Pentium Dual Core/Core 2 Duo will each perform equally well on the typical desktop or notebook PC. Also AMD's built-in memory controller seems to give it an edge in performance on the high end as well, although I haven't compared Phenom and Core 2 Quad/Core 2 Extreme as yet. I also agree that Intel chips tend to be vastly overpriced on the high end.

[yamfun 0]

Junctions increase the load of the game greatly, because it adds a lot of possible cases for computation. So, make more "fishbones", instead of "tic tac toes"