Development glitch?

[mayors 0]

Um, how do I put this...

Basically I am never seeing anything above stg 6 for every single devloper type expect residential. Even for agriculture and industry, I have never seen any stage 3. For examaple, I have high agricultural demand and a pop of only a few thousand. When I zone agriculture, all I get is pumpkin akres, I am serious I have never seen ANY other type of agricultur. (I zoned an entire medium tile with agriculture and it was ALL pumpkin akres. :'(

In another city, the population is currently 126, 000 and I have a few stage 8 or 7 residential lots (the only type I ever see) and commercial office/service demand is through the roof. IHT demand is soaring too. I zone high density for both. For IHT I just see the Andrews semiconductor or some microchip building, never anything big. (I zoned a quarter of a large tile of IHT btw)

For commercial, I get a few farleys audio and whatever, usually with a max of 700 jobs, and NEVER anything that even resembles a skyscraper. The demand is still at like 4000. Customers is high and everything bad is low.. I just dont get it.

I been playing simcity on and off for four years now. I have never seen a stage 7 or 8 commercial or a stage 3 industrial my entire time playing. what is wrong?

[Artman94 2]

...maybe it broke


EDIT: Did you put parks anywhere? parks always work for me...i think

[Danlikebooks 6]

I've been meaning to ask this for a while...

What does stage mean?

Like Stage 1, 2, etc...

[The Arrowz 3]

Yea, could you explain the stages a bit?

For me, high density industrial is pointless, because there is no difference between medium density and high density - maybe I'm having the same problem you're having

And for agricultural, there are stages? i always just had farmland, albeit varying kinds (pumpkin, oranges, apples, a mill here or there, a barnyard here n there), but relatively the same?

[Ballon_Man 1]

Stages are basically low-density, medium-density, and high-density, just broken up into smaller parts. 8 parts to it, to be exact. Stage 1 is the single house with 5 people, and Stage 8 is the massive skyscrapers. I don't know how you can tell what stage a building is though, can someone tell me how?

Having rarely zoning agriculture, sorry, I'm not able to answer your question perfectly, mayors, but I can say that the bigger farms develop later in the game when you have a decent amount of people.

Huge HT factories are hard to get. You have to have everything right, and at least a good amount of smaller ones in the first place.

Commercial skyscrapers generally won't come as early as 126,000 pop. If you have that black building with blue windows (900+ jobs) that's a sign of good things to come. More will follow. You have to have a lot (and I mean a lot) of less dense CO before anything will develop, then you also need very high demand (max out is preferable). You get that, and you might then see those CO$$ insurance companies (Wong: ~2000 jobs, Fisk 5000+ jobs). Then the CO$$$ will come. Put plenty of police coverage and plazas. CO$$$ abhors crime.

[mayors 0]

Yeh stages are like the densities further broken down. Low density is from stage 1-3. Stage 1 are your smallest things like mobile homes and stage 3 will be your largest low density (like those duplexes with 13 people. Medium density is 4-6. 4 are those small brick apartments that house around 30-40 people. Stage 6 is your tenements with around 400. Finally high density is stage 7-8 and I havent seen much of these, hence my problem.

About the agriculture, I tried zoning in a city with about 30k pop. Still pumpkin akres and nothing else. After that, agriculture usually gets capped out.

For the HT, I already have about 4000 HT jobs but nothing big still.

I think my CO is explainable I have yet to see the 900 job building (max is 700 now) I have a dense area of Cs and Co with jobs from 100-700. My residential is already had like 6000 a building. Its just sorta wierd that they are out of proportion by this much. My reisdential demand is around neutral or negative now and the CO$$ and CO$$$ demand is maxed. Still nothing big?

[Ballon_Man 1]

Don't even bother with the HT. I had a HT exclusive city with 16000 jobs and the biggest thing I've got is Tshirkov Electronics with 70 jobs. Unless you have large city surrounded by othe cities, I don't see how you can get huge HT jobs quickly.

You have "West and Co." yet? The CO$$$ with 500 jobs. That usually starts it for me, and then that thing with 900 jobs is called Ajjendade Co. You can't miss it. You just need more CO, and they eventually will come. If you have the Tourist Trap or any other commercial boosters, plop it.

Oh, and it doens't matter how big your R buildings are. I assume the 6000 building is a R$ (Tina or Bootstrap?), so it doesn't help much except boost your I-D demand.

[tungston 19]

You can find the stages of the lots in the Lot Editor, or SC4Tools. There are 3 stages of industrial, including agriculture [farms]. I think the largest default HT I have seen is 76 jobs. The other residential, and commercial have 8 stages. These have nothing to do with density, but size, and occupancy.

[Ballon_Man 1]

^Oh, so that's how you find the stages. Thanks. Although I do not understand why they don't have the lots for all the buildings. I have seen a lot missing (Knight Building, Reed Place, Project Bootstrap, to name a few) from the list.

mayors: I forgot to add, you need educated sims to get at lot of stage 7-8 CO$$. You can't rely on stupid broke sims with 80 EQ. One of my cities had all medium density commercial development in high density zones, until I gave the residents all the education available. Once the sims EQ rose to about 140, CO started booming right away. Apart from that, high EQ means a lot of HT demand, too.

[tungston 19]

I don't know why you don't see all the default lots in either of the programs because they are there.

[Ballon_Man 1]

Oh, my bad. I thought the list of Lots (given when you start Lot Editor) contained all of the buildings. I forgot the buildings tab. I see it now.

[mayors 0]

the highest HT is 76? x)

my 6000 res buildings are R$ yes, but they are at like 200 education (maxed) my other buildings for R$$ and R$$$ are in the 1000-4000 range (I get a LOT of bell towers.)

I think I've seen quite a few west and co. but thats pretty much t.

thanks for the helps!

[FlyingObjects 0]

I think you can get skyscrapers with a 100,000 population. In one of my cities, the commercial population stands at 126,000, and I'm already seeing a few Wren Insurance's.The highest HT is actually 91, at Hsu Accelerators (a big, silver, electrical-looking long building).

[Yeah_Right 2]

I may have a solution: Zone train lines next to agriculture, and make sure the farms have somewhere to export their goods. Connect the train to farms and dirty industry. This may get larger farms.