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Like DragonAnime, i have been lurking around this thread, reading peoples comments, and never posting one myself until i think of something clever to say...something meaningful that might make people think. I haven't come up with anything, so i'm just going to post this :

The members of ST(from what i have seen) are all very nice, and very respectful of other people. I don't think the mods or admins would ever TRUELY try to insult someone, or bring them down. I think its just the way people interpret things...a mod or admin may say something that they personally don't think sounded harsh, but then a person comes along and thinks it sounds rude. And, if a member really does think that they meant to insult them, report it! Tell a different mod or admin. They can help get the situation sorted out, rather then keeping it locked up inside you, building up whenever something mean happens again. I think that is how a thread like this came to be.
 
Im not saying that all of the mods and admins are perfect. Nobody is perfect. Everyone is going to make a mistake or two in their life, and that includes their 'life' on simtropolis.
 
Also, lets not forget (as some other members had said) this IS just a website. Even though it is one of the best, and we are in a sense a family, its just a website. A place to have some fun, meet new people, and talk about random things.
 
So lets try to move on from this, if at all possible...If you have a problem with someone on the site, talk to an Admin or mod...they can help solve it. Lets all be nice to each other...we'd all be much happier that way.

 

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Date: 5/30/2005 11:47:55 AM Author: DragonAnime I have lurked around this thread, and I must say Mr. Cinatit and SkiGeek are both very friendly members of the community. I have never had any problems with both of them, so I know if you have then there was a good reason why. In my experiences with SkiGeek, I know she is very fair and true, as far as Mr. Cinatit is the same. I know that dirk wouldn't of made SkiGeek a admininstartor, and Mr. Cinatit a moderator if he did not know that they are both friendly and likeable members of the community. I am sorry you have had problems but I can assure you that they must of been a reason why.
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You can assure me...?? How...??
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They are both very kind members of the Simtropolis Community. The reason I know of this is, we had a problem with a member in chat and she took him to a new room and sorted out the problem. I know she would make sure that you were understood and she would sort out the problem with you.

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    Date: 5/30/2005 12:10:35 PM Author: cheese91

    Like DragonAnime, i have been lurking around this thread, reading peoples comments, and never posting one myself until i think of something clever to say...something meaningful that might make people think. I haven't come up with anything, so i'm just going to post this :

    The members of ST(from what i have seen) are all very nice, and very respectful of other people. I don't think the mods or admins would ever TRUELY try to insult someone, or bring them down. I think its just the way people interpret things...a mod or admin may say something that they personally don't think sounded harsh, but then a person comes along and thinks it sounds rude. And, if a member really does think that they meant to insult them, report it! Tell a different mod or admin. They can help get the situation sorted out, rather then keeping it locked up inside you, building up whenever something 'mean' happens again. I think that is how a thread like this came to be.
    Im not saying that all of the mods and admins are perfect. Nobody is perfect. Everyone is going to make a mistake or two in their life, and that includes their 'life' on simtropolis.
    Also, lets not forget (as some other members had said) this IS just a website. Even though it is one of the best, and we are in a sense a 'family', its just a website. A place to have some fun, meet new people, and talk about random things.
    So lets try to move on from this, if at all possible...If you have a problem with someone on the site, talk to an Admin or mod...they can help solve it. Lets all be nice to each other...we'd all be much happier that way.




    your argument was about as sensible, eloquent, well-meaning and thoughtful as a fight between rabid dogs. however, there are a couple of minor points you have chosen to miss

    (You don't seem to have all the facts, my friend...)

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    Date: 5/30/2005 12:14:47 PM Author: DragonAnime
    Date: 5/30/2005 11:55:17 AM Author: Rude Boy

    Date: 5/30/2005 11:47:55 AM Author: DragonAnime I have lurked around this thread, and I must say Mr. Cinatit and SkiGeek are both very friendly members of the community. I have never had any problems with both of them, so I know if you have then there was a good reason why. In my experiences with SkiGeek, I know she is very fair and true, as far as Mr. Cinatit is the same. I know that dirk wouldn't of made SkiGeek a admininstartor, and Mr. Cinatit a moderator if he did not know that they are both friendly and likeable members of the community. I am sorry you have had problems but I can assure you that they must of been a reason why.

    You can assure me...??  How...??
    They are both very kind members of the Simtropolis Community. The reason I know of this is, we had a problem with a member in chat and she took him to a new room and sorted out the problem. I know she would make sure that you were understood and she would sort out the problem with you.


     

     
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    I can assure you that these are good people, better people than you. They have actually contributed in more that just meaningless threads, quite unlike you. They help people out all over the site, they keep it running. You, on the other hand just seem to be hell-bent into stirring up trouble for everyone, and believe me, that's annoying.

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    Rude Boy has his borad...  His wax...  His wetsuit...  And is on his way to the swells...

    Have fun boys and girls...  It's safer in the White Shark infested waters, than in this playground...
     
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    Date: 5/30/2005 12:18:16 PM Author: Rude Boy
    Date: 5/30/2005 12:10:35 PM Author: cheese91

    Like DragonAnime, i have been lurking around this thread, reading peoples comments, and never posting one myself until i think of something clever to say...something meaningful that might make people think. I haven't come up with anything, so i'm just going to post this :

    The members of ST(from what i have seen) are all very nice, and very respectful of other people. I don't think the mods or admins would ever TRUELY try to insult someone, or bring them down. I think its just the way people interpret things...a mod or admin may say something that they personally don't think sounded harsh, but then a person comes along and thinks it sounds rude. And, if a member really does think that they meant to insult them, report it! Tell a different mod or admin. They can help get the situation sorted out, rather then keeping it locked up inside you, building up whenever something 'mean' happens again. I think that is how a thread like this came to be.
    Im not saying that all of the mods and admins are perfect. Nobody is perfect. Everyone is going to make a mistake or two in their life, and that includes their 'life' on simtropolis.
    Also, lets not forget (as some other members had said) this IS just a website. Even though it is one of the best, and we are in a sense a 'family', its just a website. A place to have some fun, meet new people, and talk about random things.
    So lets try to move on from this, if at all possible...If you have a problem with someone on the site, talk to an Admin or mod...they can help solve it. Lets all be nice to each other...we'd all be much happier that way.

    'your argument was about as sensible, eloquent, well-meaning and thoughtful as a fight between rabid dogs. however, there are a couple of 'minor' points you have chosen to miss'

    (You don't seem to have all the facts, my friend...)
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    Rude Boy, is that not the kind of response that we are trying to draw ourselves away from?  This young lady was simply putting her point of view across, and she never claimed to know everything. I believe that what she was putting across is a very good course of action for us, that we should talk about our issues with each other, that if someone is too harsh - then yes, it should be reported to a moderator, but most of all we are here to have fun, that we should be nice to each other and there is never any excuse to be rude. Can you argue with any of those points?  I know I certainly can't, and this is coming from a girl who is all but 14 years old - I personally think she hit the nail right on the head as to how we should be treating each other.  

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    Date: 5/30/2005 12:32:38 PM Author: DragonAnime   I can assure you that these are good people, better people than you. They have actually contributed in more that just meaningless threads, quite unlike you.  They help people out all over the site, they keep it running. You, on the other hand just seem to be hell-bent into stirring up trouble for everyone, and believe me, that's annoying.


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    Date: 5/30/2005 12:41:19 PM Author: samantha
    Date: 5/30/2005 12:18:16 PM Author: Rude Boy
    Date: 5/30/2005 12:10:35 PM Author: cheese91

    Like DragonAnime, i have been lurking around this thread, reading peoples comments, and never posting one myself until i think of something clever to say...something meaningful that might make people think. I haven't come up with anything, so i'm just going to post this :

    The members of ST(from what i have seen) are all very nice, and very respectful of other people. I don't think the mods or admins would ever TRUELY try to insult someone, or bring them down. I think its just the way people interpret things...a mod or admin may say something that they personally don't think sounded harsh, but then a person comes along and thinks it sounds rude. And, if a member really does think that they meant to insult them, report it! Tell a different mod or admin. They can help get the situation sorted out, rather then keeping it locked up inside you, building up whenever something 'mean' happens again. I think that is how a thread like this came to be.
    Im not saying that all of the mods and admins are perfect. Nobody is perfect. Everyone is going to make a mistake or two in their life, and that includes their 'life' on simtropolis.
    Also, lets not forget (as some other members had said) this IS just a website. Even though it is one of the best, and we are in a sense a 'family', its just a website. A place to have some fun, meet new people, and talk about random things.
    So lets try to move on from this, if at all possible...If you have a problem with someone on the site, talk to an Admin or mod...they can help solve it. Lets all be nice to each other...we'd all be much happier that way.

    'your argument was about as sensible, eloquent, well-meaning and thoughtful as a fight between rabid dogs. however, there are a couple of 'minor' points you have chosen to miss'

    (You don't seem to have all the facts, my friend...)
    Rude Boy, is that not the kind of response that we are trying to draw ourselves away from?  This young lady was simply putting her point of view across, and she never claimed to know everything. I believe that what she was putting across is a very good course of action for us, that we should talk about our issues with each other, that if someone is too harsh - then yes, it should be reported to a moderator, but most of all we are here to have fun, that we should be nice to each other and there is never any excuse to be rude. Can you argue with any of those points?  I know I certainly can't, and this is coming from a girl who is all but 14 years old - I personally think she hit the nail right on the head as to how we should be treating each other. 



     
    your argument was about as sensible, eloquent, well-meaning and thoughtful as a fight between rabid dogs. however, there are a couple of 'minor' points you have chosen to miss
     
    Exactly my point...  That quote was the response I got from MrCinatit when I stood up and defended a 16 year old boy...   If what he said to me wasn't intended to be insulting, then what is...

    He ows me an apology...   It's that simple...

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    Date: 5/30/2005 12:35:57 PM Author: Rude Boy

    'Rude Boy' has his borad...  His wax...  His wetsuit...  And is on his way to the swells...

    Have fun boys and girls...  It's 'safer' in the White Shark infested waters, than in this playground...

    Take it easy, and have a good one...

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    Take it easy, and have a good one...
     
    Date: 5/30/2005 12:35:57 PM Author: Rude Boy

    'Rude Boy' has his borad... His wax... His wetsuit... And is on his way to the swells...

    Have fun boys and girls... It's 'safer' in the White Shark infested waters, than in this playground...

    Take it easy, and have a good one...

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    Date: 5/30/2005 12:14:47 PM Author: DragonAnime
    Date: 5/30/2005 11:55:17 AM Author: Rude Boy
    Date: 5/30/2005 11:47:55 AM Author: DragonAnime I have lurked around this thread, and I must say Mr. Cinatit and SkiGeek are both very friendly members of the community. I have never had any problems with both of them, so I know if you have then there was a good reason why. In my experiences with SkiGeek, I know she is very fair and true, as far as Mr. Cinatit is the same. I know that dirk wouldn't of made SkiGeek a admininstartor, and Mr. Cinatit a moderator if he did not know that they are both friendly and likeable members of the community. I am sorry you have had problems but I can assure you that they must of been a reason why.

    You can assure me...??  How...??
    They are both very kind members of the Simtropolis Community. The reason I know of this is, we had a problem with a member in chat and she took him to a new room and sorted out the problem. I know she would make sure that you were understood and she would sort out the problem with you.

    Thank you, Dragon.   I did indeed try to sort this out with Rude Boy privately.  He refused to talk with me.   We prefer to sort these matters privately.

    Regarding the underlying issues that started this whole thing, I have a different view than Rude Boy does.  He sees it as his defense of an attack on a 16 year old.   Like many people, I do not see where that 16 year old was attacked.  For those looking for that thread, it can be found  here .  You can decide for yourselves if anyone was attacked.  I believe it was a fairly reasonable discussion about signature size until Rude Boy came along with his snide sarcasm and the situation spiraled downward from there. 

    I was most disappointed in Rude Boy


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    Date: 5/30/2005 1:03:08 PM
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    All I see is pure speculation on your part...
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    I as well have been reading this thread and not responding.

    One of the things RudeBoy said at the beginning stopped me from responding:

    Many of these Moderators have a 'Popular Vote' and 'Back Up' from many of the Users here... This is quite simply, because they ARE moderators... People will always 'suck up' to those who have the 'authority'...


    I haven't posted because I have felt if I did, you would think I was 'sucking up' to those of 'authority'.

    I don't know what to say to assure you that I'm not. But, regardless of whether you believe me, this is not my intention.


    The part that I quoted from Dirk is exactly what I've wanted to point out the whole time. Your speculation includes the 'destruction of evidence'... but that reminds me of 'deus ex machina'. It's introducing the 'destruction of evidence' as a way to explain the rest of the 'conspiracy', because without that portion, the rest of it falls apart.

    However, the 'destruction of evidence' theory itself is just speculation. So, to me, at least, it seems that the entire 'conspiracy' is just speculation.



    Now, I'm not saying it didn't happen. I'm not saying you lied, RudeBoy.

    It's just that, from my (albeit limited) experience, most of the time the moderators and administrators are very kind and forgiving. The few times in which that isn't the case can only be explained by the fact that they are human too, and make mistakes.

    It has been said many times before that, if there is a problem, contact somebody about it. It has also been said many times before that rude responses should not be tolerated, and that we know they happen.

    But, for the moderators to conspire against somebody for no good reason?


    Well, like I said, it's possible. But, I don't see any evidence of it, and I don't personally believe they would do something like that. That's enough for me and probably a few others here to dismiss it as unlikely.



    A small side note... it seems that almost everybody here agrees on something: be kind to others. I like this line of thinking. 44.gif



    Oh well... I hope nobody thinks I'm trying to get on anybody's good side. I am just expressing my opinion on the matter.

    Good luck getting this resolved! 9.gif

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    Date: 5/30/2005 1:30:33 PM Author: MallowTheCloud
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    All I see is pure speculation on your part...
    quote> I as well have been reading this thread and not responding. One of the things RudeBoy said at the beginning stopped me from responding: 'Many of these Moderators have a 'Popular Vote' and 'Back Up' from many of the Users here...  This is quite simply, because they ARE moderators...  People will always 'suck up' to those who have the 'authority'...' I haven't posted because I have felt if I did, you would think I was 'sucking up' to those of 'authority. I don't know what to say to assure you that I'm not. But, regardless of whether you believe me, this is not my intention. The part that I quoted from Dirk is exactly what I've wanted to point out the whole time. Your speculation includes the 'destruction of evidence'... but that reminds me of 'deus ex machina'. It's introducing the 'destruction of evidence' as a way to explain the rest of the 'conspiracy', because without that portion, the rest of it falls apart. However, the 'destruction of evidence' theory itself is just speculation. So, to me, at least, it seems that the entire 'conspiracy' is just speculation. Now, I'm not saying it didn't happen. I'm not saying you lied, RudeBoy. It's just that, from my (albeit limited) experience, most of the time the moderators and administrators are very kind and forgiving. The few times in which that isn't the case can only be explained by the fact that they are human too, and make mistakes. It has been said many times before that, if there is a problem, contact somebody about it. It has also been said many times before that rude responses should not be tolerated, and that we know they happen. But, for the moderators to conspire against somebody for no good reason? Well, like I said, it's possible. But, I don't see any evidence of it, and I don't personally believe they would do something like that. That's enough for me and probably a few others here to dismiss it as unlikely. A small side note... it seems that almost everybody here agrees on something: be kind to others. I like this line of thinking. 44.gif Oh well... I hope nobody thinks I'm trying to get on anybody's good side. I am just expressing my opinion on the matter. Good luck getting this resolved! 9.gif
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    Yes indeed, it WOULD be nice to have some evidence...  And it would be even more nice, if the evidence hadn't been deleted from the Forums...   Funny how that works...

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    Date: 5/30/2005 1:29:13 PM Author: Rude Boy 'Knights' in chess...
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    It's no secret I am on Skigeek's side on this issue -- so what's your point?  I agree and fully support with exactly how she handled the situation, as I was not in the least involved. 
     
    Again, what's your point? 
     
    We don't fabricate the threads -- let the public read the posts in question for themselves and draw their own opinions.
     
    We have made ours.  If you want to take your ball and go home, by all means, you wouldn't be the first.  No one can stop you.
     
    Also, if you really cared to make a difference and really were my side... you have my private email address, we were discussing your projects and I was helping you realize them... we had a line of communication --  you could have just gone to me and said dude, I think you need to listen to me, I think you have a problem... let me tell you ...
     
    So don't play the I'm your pal I'm your buddy card with me cuz it doesn't hold, and neither does your conspiracy theory, really.  2.gif

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    Yes indeed, it WOULD be nice to have some evidence... And it would be even more nice, if the 'evidence' hadn't been deleted from the Forums... Funny how that works...
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    Well, the main point of my post was this:

    Well, like I said, it's possible. But, I don't see any evidence of it, and I don't personally believe they would do something like that. That's enough for me and probably a few others here to dismiss it as unlikely.

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    I'm never saying it was an all out assualt on me in the signature topic.There were about a dozen people mainly posting how they agreed with the admin.I heard it once from SkigeekShorten the signature.I was going to do that.Then I come back and have 5 more posts saying Its long or Skigeeks right.Thats not really tag teaming...Thats more like an ignorant suck up contest.I also didn't get angry about my signature until the very end.No Rude Boy didn't get me angry.He just said what we all were thinking...Why cry over a few lines in a signature?During the duration of that signature topic I found myself constantly updating my signature to make it better....I find my signature is perfect as is and is not hurting anyone at the moment.

    The people in the signature topic were kinda nice,but if you can't post anything useful don't post anything at all....You can't just go around agreeing with everyone...
     
    Then there was the avatar topic which my friend Sloppet was bashed for his avatar.More then one member had that avatar and Sloppet had no clue his avatar was doing anything wrong....The point is after along pointless topic Sloppet finally had to give up his avatar....
     
    Also the Slipknot topic.Where everyone who liked Slipknot got bashed on....I really love when people make fun of what music you like then go around calling you stupid for likeing it.Oh your an idoit if you listen to Slipknot and oh your a goth...I hate that little goth comment the most because I don't go to graveyards and smoke cigarettes reading louzy poems all day.....
     
    Lets just be polite and end the conspiracy....I know some of you out there know what I'm talking about....
     
    Anyway lets not BASH anyone here...I feel like I've been saying that way to much lately....

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    Date: 5/30/2005 1:38:06 PM Author: dirk
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    It's no secret I am on Skigeek's side on this issue -- so what's your point?  I agree and fully support with exactly how she handled the situation, as I was not in the least involved. 
    Again, what's your point? 
    We don't fabricate the threads -- let the public read the posts in question for themselves and draw their own opinions.
    We have made ours.  If you want to take your ball and go home, by all means, you wouldn't be the first.  No one can stop you.
    Also, if you really cared to make a difference and really were my side... you have my private email address, we were discussing your projects and I was helping you realize them... we had a line of communication --  you could have just gone to me and said 'dude, I think you need to listen to me, I think you have a problem... let me tell you ... '
    So don't play the I'm your pal I'm your buddy card with me cuz it doesn't hold, and neither does your conspiracy theory, really.  2.gif



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    I belive it was that MrCinatit person who banned me yesterday....

    Banned for 7 hours for agreeing with rudeboy.....Thats all the proof you need.I said nothing offensive yesterday to anyone.If you check yesterday I made only a few post instead of my 20 or 30 posts...It was because I was trapped on the Chat and I could only talk to Ill Tonkso,DragonAnime,SC4Miester,Bournoid and many others....Also a few moderators were there....Tolo and a few others....
     
    Just ask them the people on the chat yesterday....I was banned...I told them....They said they could find no problem...No reason for my bannishment...
     
    I belive MrCinatit did it because he has such a problem with Rude Boy and anyone who agrees with Rude Boy. I posted in Rude Boys thread and it got deleted....Then I posted again....Then I ended up banned....For what?Trying to thank Rude Boy....
     
    This is really weird...Please solve some of these problems

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    Date: 5/30/2005 2:55:41 PM Author: Cjah

    I belive it was that MrCinatit person who banned me yesterday....

    Banned for 7 hours for agreeing with rudeboy.....Thats all the proof you need.I said nothing offensive yesterday to anyone.If you check yesterday I made only a few post instead of my 20 or 30 posts...It was because I was trapped on the Chat and I could only talk to Ill Tonkso,DragonAnime,SC4Miester,Bournoid and many others....Also a few moderators were there....Tolo and a few others....
    Just ask them the people on the chat yesterday....I was banned...I told them....They said they could find no problem...No reason for my bannishment...
    I belive MrCinatit did it because he has such a problem with Rude Boy and anyone who agrees with Rude Boy. I posted in Rude Boys thread and it got deleted....Then I posted again....Then I ended up banned....For what?Trying to thank Rude Boy....
    This is really weird...Please solve some of these 'problems'
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    OK...I might regret this...but I think it's time that I speak on behalf of someone whom I owe a great deal to.

    Rude Boy, I hold your opinions in the highest regard. I think that you have some good points concerning this argument, and I think it's good that you have the ability to hide some comments, that if spoken in the English we're used to here at Simtropolis, would certainly get you banned. Ah, the euphemism...

    Now, what I think. MrCinatit I cannot speak on behalf of, as I don't know him as well as I would like to. But as I said before, I owe SkiGeek a great deal, and she has helped me on 2 occasions.

    1. I was 2 weeks into being a member of Simtropolis. I had already made some friends, and hadn't gotten myself into any trouble, thank goodness.

    Then, one of the friends I had made, gets banned, I don't even remember what for now. I think he had made an offensive comment towards an administrator, possibly SkiGeek herself.

    I PMmed SkiGeek, practically begging her to let him back into the fray, the friendly community we all know as Simtropolis. After conversing the entire day, he was unbanned, because of SkiGeek. My aforementioned friend still lurks around here, and might even be reading this thread right now, but once in a while, when we talk on MSN about ST, he thanks SkiGeek for unbanning him, and allowing access to the forums and STEX.

    You may think that tis not I who owe SkiGeek a great deal, but my friend. But in turn, I also owe her, for in that correspondence session, she showed me how to be a valuable and compassionate member of Simtropolis, even with the minimal contact and position on the opposing side of the argument.

    2. This happened really recently, and I may get in trouble for talking about it, but this issue needs to come to the table.

    Very recently, a very young boy joined Simtropolis. He explained that he was advanced intellectually, and that people shouldn't underestimate him. Of course, as you might expect, this was met with flaming by some senior members, undoubtedly concerning the don't underestimate me comment.

    SkiGeek sadly had to delete the user off the site, as he was 3 years under the required age to become a member of ST. This is where I come in.

    You see, I'm also under the required age to become a member of ST: I don't turn 13 until October. Therefore, I was worried that I was also going to be deleted, therefore I pleaded: Please don't ban me, please. I think I've proven myself as a mature and responsible member of the community, please don't ban me. Keep in mind that wasn't exactly verbatim, but the comment was along those lines.

    I soon received a PM from SkiGeek herself: Are you on MSN? It would be good to talk with you. Thanks. Now that was verbatim. Therefore, I signed onto MSN, and started conversing with SkiGeek.

    She spent an hour with me, reviewing the law that demands that you must be 13 to join Simtropolis. She was patient and kindly, helping me try to find a way to stay on Simtropolis.

    Luckily, some options were found, and I'm allowed to stay here. I won't get into the boring details. But without her help, I would be gone from this site.

    Therefore, I can't believe that someone as compassionate and helpful as SkiGeek would gang up on other users. I read her comment concerning Cjah slightly oversized signature. There were no offensive comments or references made, and she was merely looking out for him, trying to help him up. I don't know how saying, Your signature is too big, please reduce the size of it is considered ganging up on somebody. Perhaps she was supporting MrCinatit, but not because she wanted to gang up on Cjah, because she supported MrCinatit's views.

    Now remember, if anyone takes offense concerning these comments, feel free to PM me, and I'll apologize over MSN, in a PM, in a post, whatever. But I truly do not believe that SkiGeek is the type to support oppression and bullying here.

    I sincerely thank you once again Ski. Without your help, I wouldn't be here today. And thus, I exit the argument, hopefully having made an impression among some of the readers of this thread. Thank you for allowing me the chance to speak my mind.

    Sincerely,

    RadioheadFan

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    Thanks, RadioheadFan for that, much appreciated. I think that's the general consensus. 
     
    Rude Boy, you seem to be pressing a point you cannnot substantiate.
     
    We have already establish that bullying occurs, and it's a known issue, and it's remedy or reduction is being actively pursued.  Your point is taken.
     
    But to further suggest that the admins are out to gang up on members is just absurd.  Who else thinks this? 
     
    Again, your reply is to say the silent oppressed are too fearful to come out and be counted...
     
    Give me a break.  Again, like your evidence has been destroyed clause, as MallowTheCloud pointed out, only serves to prevent anyone from disproving your point, because your point requires on the active absence of evidence. 
     
    Your debate tactics become tiresome, and I'm becoming more and more amused by what you say than angry, trust me, I'm not angry.... get out there while the surf's still good, man, this what you're trying to pull here serves no real purpose.
     
    Hey brah, I

    I made this!bzt.gif

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    I admit, I haven't read about 99.9% of this thread, and I don't intend on doing so, so I'm sorry if I'm whipping a dead.... skunk.

    Rude Boy, I have no intent on bullying anybody, or opressing anybody, but in case you didn't notice, we concider the site to be a Dirktatorship, which means that Dirk can run it how he wishes.
     
    I am understanding that Dirk is completely happy with how the site is being run, and that he says the Staff are fine.
     
    Since you appear to be one of three, out of the thousands of active users that say that the staff are bullies, It's not very convincing.
     
    Now, I appear to be standing between the staff and you, so before I'm crushed by pressure from both sides, allow me to openly state that you are ALL whipping the dead skunk.
     
    Just drop it guys, nothing is wrong with the site, can't we all just chill?
     
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    Former Moderator, Chat Admin, and SimMars cofounder.

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    I don't really see where do you want to get Rude Boy...
    Although, I may spill the beans that it was I who initially complained to ski about the signature you were using,that large gothic rude boy you used to annex in the end of your posts, and asked her to review the Codexus Simtropolus about it.Of course in my blissful ignorance I didn't catch up with the results but it seems it worked.

    But I'd say that I didn't do that as a part of an conspiracy against you. That second signature, I beleive that is something that got trough the rules, and it was anoyning, thus I just bumped ski via PM, no offenses just a little pun with your screename (I wrote Rude boy is being... umm... rude in the topic)

    The argument about signature sizes was eloquent on both parties, but I beleive the staff's point is the victorious one. I personally think CJah's signature is disastrously huge and anoyning. And above all, if the staff has the power, they can do what they want. Benevolent Dirktatorship is the government form here, not republic or democracy.

    Simtropolis staff always had regarded by me due to it's transparency, kindness, and open-minded behaivour. You are making it look that the administrators team up against members.
    Of course such an action could be possible (dirk is the webmaster... count the possible screenames he may have, got any near ad infinitum?) but I higly doubt they would be able to do such an anti-ethical and infantile action.

    Above all, if you are unsatsfyed about this, leave, there's no custoums tax, no passport and no bureaucracy, just press the little pretty X on the corner of the screen. Sim city central and hundreds of other sites have their doors open for you, although if you keep bringing up such arguments I beleive the same fate would happen again and again.

    Post Scriptum: Pardon me for my lack of politeness and relative arrogance in this post, but that sadly seems to be one of my qualities14.gif

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    J.O. I personally don't care what you think.....

    My signature is just as important as yours...Everyone always says Oh why do you have posts in the sig?I say its just showing my pride in being here at simtropolis... is there anything wrong with that?Is there anything wrong with enjoying Simtropolis?
     
    Dirk you do a great job and almost all of your moderaters and admin are great...Your website is the best around when reffering to Sim city 4....I must say i enjoy being here its just all this argument over a simple thing.....
     
    If people would be more polite and not be so arrogent then this communtiy could be so much better....

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    The point is not that you express your pride in your signature, the point is that it is BIG just that, it's BIG, and disrupts thread reading.

    Of course, there are smaller, prettier and more elegant ways of expressing your pride... Some thinkering and you could make up a nice sentence with what you most esteem in this site and why you love it so much, instead of a list of post counts.

    I myself am able to give some writing help, and we got plenty of good writers out there (Samantha and Mr. Cinatit specially)

    Although, this argument I beleive, should die here, anything else, send me via PM and we'll discuss it more extendly.35.gif
    EDIT: I and Cjah are talking right now via chat... expect a happy ending for this one 19.gif

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    Weeee!! Rude boy you made it9.gif!!...
    The Spokesman for the Oppressed...was just speaking for himself....how...lovely22.gif!....
    Anyway....newbies...you can count on me for help on everything but BAT related stuff.....Nerds....be nice to the newbies....Spokesmen for the Oppressed.....keep it to yourself or at least don't try to cover a personal issue with an actual problem of Simtropolis which is this bullying thingy..oh well...21.gif

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