Planet in Peril

[bbfan02 23]

Yes, the world and especially here, it is overpopulated. Go on Google and search "urban sprawl" and "suburban sprawl". And if you have Google Earth, look over the suburbs of Phoenix. Some of this developments are crazy!

[Smarty218 2]

But with overpopulation comes poverty. If everyone on earth lived like the American Upper Middle Class, we would only have resources for 2 Billion people. If everyone lived at bare minimum, we would have room for 8 Billion.

[bbfan02 23]

You should also see some of the tenements and the conditions some people live in in India. It is just unbelieveable.

[Smarty218 2]

I, being from India, have personally seen them. The poverty can be quite shocking to many in the west.

[bbfan02 23]

Oh, sorry lol. I wasnt expecting that!

[Smarty218 2]

It's fine. I know the poverty of my country and I wish I could help. My mom actually grew up quite poor, but after she was recommended to a great college, she was able to make plenty of money. It's all about education, you know?

[bbfan02 23]

Yes, education can bring you a long way in this world.

[Fresh Prince of Wmbg 44]

Originally posted by: Smarty218 But with overpopulation comes poverty. If everyone on earth lived like the American Upper Middle Class, we would only have resources for 2 Billion people. If everyone lived at bare minimum, we would have room for 8 Billion.quote>

 

True.

q]Originally posted by: Smarty218 It's fine. I know the poverty of my country and I wish I could help. My mom actually grew up quite poor, but after she was recommended to a great college, she was able to make plenty of money. It's all about education, you know?quote>

[Smarty218 2]

All very true... to an extent. But thats the "American Dream" isn't it? That for every ounce of effort you put in, you get a reward. It's the idea of "reaping what you sow" is it not?

[bbfan02 23]

Yes it is. The American dream is to be sucessful. To live in a nice suburb with a nice husband and kids and a nice car and to have a nice house. That is what it is.

[skyliner22 16]

Originally posted by: bbfan02

Originally posted by: skyliner22 Well San Francisco as a whole sure is doing something while rest of America just watches wats on the horiozon! We are the greenest city in the nation! My new house will use solar panel for electricity, almost all appliances are energy star, the city has a wonderful recycling and composting system. Within a nation that is just contributing more to global warming, i think our city is doing alright. I wished California just became its own nation, its light years ahead of rest of america. WIth a high speed rail system on the horizon, that will take even more cars off the road! LA needs to clean up its act though. Although i commend on their efforts to put in place an adequate transit system in the near future!quote>

 

Yeah? I've never seen anything related to what you just said in San Fran. I have seen Chicago do some things...quote>

Well San Francisco all new skyscrapers that are going up now have to be green buildings, i guess glass and material and stuff not really sure. I guess i was wrong with SF being the greenest city but, we are looking at enviornemnt when it comes to urban development.

Oh and i think SF either leads in solar power technology or was first to implement it, cant be false cuz they were on flags right in front of city hall

Plus we do have a great waste management system, you would know if u lived here.....our sewers are different on the other hand because they are 80+ years old though.

And CA high speed rail is out there just search google.... just because one city like Chicago or watever does something doesnt mean other cities do to....

[bbfan02 23]

Oh, never knew all that....

[Micah 16]

Originally posted by: KingTitan Actually you are incorrect.. All of Chicago's building that have been built since 2003, and comtinue being built, require "GREE" roof tops. grass, gardens etc... Just recently on the the news Chicago was announced as the model for the Global Green Efforts. Supported by former presedint Clinton.quote>

 

Then why is Austin ranked as the leader of "Green"? Chicago may be up there, but Austin is the most agressive when it comes to the environment and energy usage.

Link

[skyliner22 16]

In addition to one of the best city recycling systems, San Francisco has a unique composting program that’s been very successful. City vehicle fleets include a particularly large number of alternative-fueled cars and trucks, and a Biodiesel Access Task Force helps promote biofuel pumping stations in the city, especially where district school buses can get to them.

San Francisco’s Climate Action Plan, called for by its Board of Supervisors, has put the city on track to surpass the benchmark set by the Kyoto Protocol, partly boosted by a $100 million solar bond measure passed by voters to build renewable energy systems throughout the city. There are too many green buildings to list, and code requires that new municipal buildings meet the LEED Silver certification. But if this all sounds familiar by now, the always eclectic San Francisco recently became the first city in the country to ban the use of petroleum-based plastic shopping bags in grocery stores—only biodegradable plastic and recyclable paper ones are allowed—and by this summer Styrofoam takeout containers will be history, too.quote>

Oh yea forgot to mention the plastic bag thing too, all major grocers in SF like lucky, safeway etc. have to use paper bags now, but too bad its only within the city limits.

[Smarty218 2]

Yeah, another thing people in smaller towns are doing is encouraging only consuming foods grown locally.

[bbfan02 23]

Oh, that also makes people eat vegetables and fruits....

[Smarty218 2]

I'm vegitarian, so I guess I'd support it.

[bbfan02 23]

That actually forces you to eat them. If you dont I guess you would go starving.

[Smarty218 2]

Well... yeah. But I'm not against vegitarianism.