SC4Tool - Reference and Visual Editor for BATs and Lots

[Andreas Roth 616]

Is there any error message? How long did you wait? On slower machines, it could take quite long, since numerous files are loaded/checked. What hardware, operating system and screen resolution do you use? Did you install the latest .NET version properly? Did you check the paths in System.dat? Anyone else having problems?

EDIT: To detect your problem, simrolle added a log feature - just download this update and replace the SC4Tool.exe. When you start the program, a Log subfolder will be created with a logfile in it. Please post this or send it to simrolle ( simrolle@oleco.net ), so he can check what's wrong.

 

EDIT: Removed outdated link.

[scififan68 23]

no error message.It stops almost when it is almost loaded up and won't go anymore. My computer: 512MB of RAM, 48GB HD,Compaq and it is an XP 

[Andreas Roth 616]

Could you please post the log file from the updated version I provided with my last posting?

[scififan68 23]

Date: 7/11/2005 11:03:35 PM Author: Andreas Roth Could you please post the log file from the updated version I provided with my last posting?

Ok here it is: Here

[eddiem 2]

You just sent back the program. Go to C:\SC4\Log and there should be a file called Startup.log. Send that as per previous instructions. If there are are 17 blue progress bars that is when it seems to stall, it's still loading, just be patient

[redan 0]

Andreas Roth, thanks for the weekend download. Great Idea, great delivery i'm sure (not that i'll be able to check before the next weekend.

Oh, and don't let Simrolle chat here and there, he needs to make the upgrades (moding capability) ASAP.

[Andreas Roth 616]

Date: 7/11/2005 11:45:50 PM Author: redan

Oh, and don't let Simrolle chat here and there, he needs to make the upgrades (moding capability) ASAP.

Don't worry, the work won't stop here. Anyway, the next version will have a different startup behaviour - currently, the start takes quite long, since all textures are loaded for the analyser and texture scanner, which makes the first start rather leghtly (38 seconds on my machine). In then new version, the textures are loaded only when they are needed, i. e. when you open the modules mentioned above. This will reduce the initial startup time to less than three seconds.

[simrolle 18]

O.K., i just send Andreas the new Version with updated Startup behavior. I think I checked out all

possible user settings and it will work fine now. Hope we can upload it tonight.

 

[Andreas Roth 616]

As simrolle mentioned before, the new version is ready and uploaded. Hopefully, all issues concerning the startup and the Settings.dat are corrected now. Please uninstall the old version and do a clean installation with the new one. Along with the much faster startup time, we also fixed some minor issues and updated the language files.

EDIT: Removed outdated link.

[scififan68 23]

Date: 7/12/2005 5:26:13 PM Author: Andreas Roth

As simrolle mentioned before, the new version is ready and uploaded. Hopefully, all issues concerning the startup and the Settings.dat are corrected now. Please uninstall the old version and do a clean installation with the new one. Along with the much faster startup time, we also fixed some minor issues and updated the language files.

Download version 0.3.3 (2.0 MB)

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It loaded up! I could not get in the Maxis RCI buildings Database[probly because I did not restart my computer] Do not worry about it.

[xcalbier 43]

https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/files//untitled.JPG align=baseline>As you can see I got it to oad correctly But If I click on a buildings folder the right hand screen stays Blank . i even Pulled the simcity data file out and used the drag and drop meathed to be sure it was loading that file . so how do you get this program to accutly show the relitive info on the buildings? I DONT know who changed this photo I uploaded but the admin has been informed I mite not be able to find out who u are but I bet they can.

[scififan68 23]

Date: 7/12/2005 6:18:09 PM Author: xcalbier As you can see I got it to oad correctly But If I click on a buildings folder the right hand screen stays Blank . i even Pulled the simcity data file out and used the drag and drop meathed to be sure it was loading that file . so how do you get this program to accutly show the relitive info on the buildings?

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It is doing that for me too. Oh!! No! another bug or error. 

[Andreas Roth 616]

Oh no, not again! We had this issue a few weeks before, but it seemed to be fixed. Please report the following:

- What operating system do you use?

- What screen resolution do you use?

- Do you have administrative priviledges for your user account?

 

Open Options/Program and check, if the paths to your SimCity installation are correctly set up. Then, click on the startup tab and uncheck the save tab positions checkbox (if you don't see the other tabs, we might have a serious problem...). Save the changes with clicking on the floppy icon and exit the program. If you don't have administrative priviledges, restart Windows and log on as administrator. Start the program again and see if it works. Check also the other modules if you see any missing elements (in the Tutorial subfolder, you'll find some screenshots of the program, compare them with what you see).

[scififan68 23]

I tried: one of those and it did not work,it says: 

[Andreas Roth 616]

Ah well, an error message is better than nothing... Please click on the Details button on the left side of the error dialogue box and copy the error message that is displayed. Either post it here or send it to simrolle via e-mail (you'll find his address in the readme file).

In any case, try the following: Uninstall the program again, reboot and log on as administrator. Now, switch your screen resolution to 1024x768, if possible. Reinstall the tool and start it again. Does it work now?

 

Sorry that you have so much trouble, but we desperately need more beta testers to get rid of these annoying bugs - it seems to work for most people, but on some systems, the old errors come back, although simrolle tried numerous things to fix them. So every feedback is helpful, the more detailed, the better.

[scififan68 23]

The error message is gone so I can't get it back.[still not working]

I have found the details of the error.

Here they are:

See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.ArgumentException: The layout information provided could not be interpreted.
   at TD.SandDock.SandDockManager.SetLayout(String layout)
   at SC4Tool.DataViewer..ctor()
   at SC4Tool.Form1.InitializeComponent()
   at SC4Tool.Form1..ctor()
   at SC4Tool.FormMain.LadeFormForm1()
   at SC4Tool.FormIntro.PictureBox2_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)

************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
    Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
    Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.573
    CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/microsoft.net/framework/v1.1.4322/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
SC4Tool
    Assembly Version: 1.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 1.0.0.0
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/SC4Tool/SC4Tool.exe
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
    Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
    Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.573
    CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.windows.forms/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.windows.forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System
    Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
    Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.573
    CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
    Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
    Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.573
    CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.drawing/1.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/system.drawing.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Data
    Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
    Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.573
    CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.data/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.data.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Xml
    Assembly Version: 1.0.5000.0
    Win32 Version: 1.1.4322.573
    CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/system.xml/1.0.5000.0__b77a5c561934e089/system.xml.dll
----------------------------------------
Microsoft.VisualBasic
    Assembly Version: 7.0.5000.0
    Win32 Version: 7.10.3052.4
    CodeBase: file:///c:/windows/assembly/gac/microsoft.visualbasic/7.0.5000.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/microsoft.visualbasic.dll
----------------------------------------
SandDock
    Assembly Version: 1.0.6.1
    Win32 Version: 1.0.6.1
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/SC4Tool/SandDock.DLL
----------------------------------------
SandBar
    Assembly Version: 1.1.0.0
    Win32 Version: 1.1.0.0
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/SC4Tool/SandBar.DLL
----------------------------------------
Eyefinder
    Assembly Version: 1.0.4.2
    Win32 Version: 1.0.4.2
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/SC4Tool/Eyefinder.DLL
----------------------------------------

************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just in time (JIT) debugging, the config file for this
application or machine (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
    <system.windows.forms jitDebugging=true />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the machine
rather than being handled by this dialog.

 

[Craigsters 3]

I downloaded they SC4Tool, and it works fine for me, I use ultimate zip 2.7 US version, for those reporting there having problem's that is, it works fine and unzips fine for me!...

[scififan68 23]

Date: 7/12/2005 7:45:51 PM Author: Craigsters I downloaded they SC4Tool, and it works fine for me, I use ultimate zip 2.7 US version, for those reporting there having problem's that is, it works fine and unzips fine for me!...

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Now that is kind'a strange,because it does not work on my computer.

[Andreas Roth 616]

I honestly don't know what's wrong... I created another user account without administrative priviledges, changed the screen resolution etc., etc., but I don't have any errors on two different computers. For those who still have problems: I suggest to perform a Windows Update, so your machine gets all recent service packs and patches, esp. for Windows itself, and of course for the .NET Framework.

[xcalbier 43]

well I uninstalled it reinstalled it and have found the following. First Im AM loged on as admi so thats not a problem . The program works Half right clicking Building refrence aloways me to see the stats on ALL parks civic and landmarks. but the Building data base still shows No info when clicking on the folder names . Pluse bringing up the opptions-- program the box that pops up has NO info displayed just a gray box .

   One farther note the Building refrence is in english as I choise that language but the Building data base Folders are in Deutsch? I gess ? its sure not english at anyrate even though the names dont devate to much ,Funny squigles at the top of letters and spelled differently .

   Ps Windows XP Screen size 1024x768 Correct as well.

 theres no reasion why it shouldent be working Ps I did restart Befor running the program as well .like i said it works half way right .

  Pss i get the error messege as well sometimes.Pssss I did try changing the language wile in the building refrence to english with had no effect.

   Have all nessery windows xp updates.

[scififan68 23]

OH!! WELL!! I'm not ever going to use This Database again. [for awhire]

[Andreas Roth 616]

@xcalbier: Thanks for the detailed description. The building database uses an interface with tabs in the right half of the windows; these tabs are also used in other modules, such as the options dialogue box. It seems that some systems have problems with displaying those tabs, but we simply cannot find the cause. It seems to be totally random - for one it works, and for another it doesn't.

Anyway, the program supports different languages (English and German so far), so you probably find some German labels as well, since my database was created in German, for obvious reasons. The building database has two modes; the two icons above the tree/folder view (the part that can be displayed on your system) switch between English and German names. The building reference is newer, so it has been designed as English version right from the beginning. Since we're still developing the tool, the final shape isn't determined yet, but we can't really do it before this annoying tab bug is ironed out (as I said, we thought it would have been fixed, but apparently, this isn't the case yet...).

[ScottFTL 29]

Hello, Andreas. Unfortunately, I am seeing some problems also. I can start the Building Database, but I see nothing in the right pane. Building Reference seems to be working fine. Analyser/Importer crashed the program after a long delay.

I tried to check the path settings, but Options > Program is returning an unhandled exception error. I have attached the error details to this message.

I am running Windows XP Pro SP2 and have the .NET Framework 1.1 with Hotfix KB886903 installed. My monitor resolution is 1600 x 1200, and my user account is a local Administrator.

I had no problems with the earlier Building Database you released on PEG's site. I am not sure how much has changed since then, so maybe that is not relevant.

If you have anything you would like me to try or a patch you need someone to test, don't hestiate to PM me. I loved the first version and am eager to get this working.

[scififan68 23]

ScottFTL that looks like the same exact error I'm having. 

[Fantail 0]

I have the exacted same error also.

[scififan68 23]

ok! somthing is going on. 3 people is a lot of people for the same problem.

[Andreas Roth 616]

simrolle checked the exception reports and told me it must have something to do with the tab position saving feature. He tried numerous things, but it seems that there is a bug in the associated DLL file. Maybe there's an update available, but if that doesn't help, he will have to remove this feature, since he cannot do something about it.

[ScottFTL 29]

It's good to hear that you've found the source of the problem at least. Hopefully there is a fix.

[xcalbier 43]

I would be very care full downloading this program EVERONE wile I cant say for 100% sure that it was this program the caused a crittical error in windows and caused my to have to do a compleat Reformat

  Im 90% sure as this was the only thing I had downloaded and i did get manny errors trying to run the program and they were the ONLY errors i got in the last week.

   so everone rember you DOWNLOAD these programs at your own RISK.

 PSS not a rant as I have backups apon backups of all my files just for this type of event.

   Pss im glade it does work for most people .This points to a compatibilty problem .

there must be another program that the people having this problem causing a Conflict with this program.

  This is the most likly cause .

[Thunderman 30]

Ok, for those who are interested, I took the time to make a Dutch translation of the program! A couple of words are still in english because I didn't knew what the translation of those words are in Dutch, but it is translated for 95% of all those english words

 

The dutch translation file is attached to this post!

Just put it in your Languages folder in your SC4TOOLS directory, and then import it in the language editor and after that, select the dutch language!

 

 

 

Greetz Thunderm@n