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Texture problem with low density $ and $$ res lots

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Hi there. In fact, I have two problems, but I suspect that they're closely related since they seem to be affecting the same types of lots.

But first, some screen caps:

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Notice the texture beneath many (although not all) of the low density residential lots is this grainy grey stuff, some of which spills over onto the adjacent street; at first when I saw it, I thought it was garbage piling up in the street.

The second problem is that all of a sudden, $ and $$ have no-water zots appearing above them. Granted, these particular houses aren't hooked up to water, but as you know, they don't have to be in order to grow. Accordingly, the houses become abandoned promptly.

This problem sprung up after I downloaded a number of files off STEX (I tend to go on downloading-happy sprees and get a number of BATs at a time). These include:

- RP2005 UK Link Detached House

- RP2005 Barratt Semi

- RP2005 Chavistock House

- RP2004 6HouseRow

(the above all by barbyw, I believe)

- SYM Productions Forbes St Woolloomooloo (by mattb325)

- SYM Productions ESSENTIALS (some dependency needed by the above BAT)

- SYM Productions Residential Prop Pack01 MB (same as above)

- MB Chippendale Terrace (requiring Porkie Props Vol2 seasonal street trees, which I have)

- Finnish Parliament House (by prepo)

- St. Michael's Church

- Sardina Row Housing (by SimGoober)

- DuskTrooper Ploppable Trees (by JRJ)

- DuskTrooper Trees V1.000 (dependency for the above)

- Waterfront Promenade

That's it. I suspected that the street tree props had something to do with it, until I noticed the no-water zot problems. I hunted down all of the files that came with these downloads and removed them from the Plugins folder, yet the problem persists (I triple-checked to make sure I removed all the new files, including ones that were unzipped into separate folders). I thought I'd run a System Restore just for kicks, to no avail (I didn't expect it to work, since I imagine System Restore doesn't touch those files).

I'm running the Deluxe edition, with both updates installed (i.e., I have all the prerequisites for BAT nightlighting). My machine specs are:

AMD XP 1900+ 

512 MB DDR-RAM

ATI RADEON 8500, 128 MB

74 GB + 150 GB (2 physical HDs)

1.22 GB min, 2.00 GB max Virtual Mem

That's all I can think of. I tried to be as descriptive as possible, but if there's anything I've left out, I apologize in advance. Thanks for any help you guys can offer.

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Not clear if your zones are single or multiple occupancy.  If they are multiple, you must water them.

The texture problem might have to do with your graphics card.  Try running with software rendering (slow) and see if it goes away.


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rp2005 and rp2004 are all by rp2005. I have done the lot work on the RP2005 UK Link Detached House but can claim nothing towards the BAT. They are rp2005's.

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    BarbyW>> ok, cool. I only glossed over the readme files so I'm not surprised that I goofed somewhere

    N_O_Body>> thanks for the reply. Regarding the no-water zots, this has never been an issue before the other problem cropped up, so I assume they're single-occupancy. In any case, it just came out of the blue (no pun intended).

    Your texture fix suggestion didn't seem to work. Given that it's only affecting a very specific subset of lots, I'm guessing the problem lies with them specifically (and I'm guessing the two problems are related, since they're suddenly affecting the same lots).

    Thanks for the suggestions though.

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    I would suggest moving your plugins to a new folder and then installing them one at a time until you see the error recreated, then you will know that it is the last lot/BAT you installed that is causing it.

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    I've already removed all of the new BATs, and the problem's still there. I'm wondering if another file was written over or corrupted at some point.

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    Could well be. Try clearing out ALL your plugins. If the problem is still there then it would be indicative of a corrupt file, and I think that the only way you could get around it would be to completely uninstall sc4 (and the updates), then reinstal everything, then put the plugins back in one by one until you recreate the error when you will know what has caused it.

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    Yeah, that sounds like pretty sound advice. I'll give that a shot once my undergrad finals are done, since given how many plugins I have, this could be a job for a few hours (I think this is the powers that be telling me that now is not a good time to be playing simcity).

    Thanks for the help.

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    Ok, well I uninstalled and then reinstalled the game (including plugins). The result? 

    Glitch: 1

    Me: 0

    Here are some closeup screen caps. It appears that all the residential props are messed up.

    eep1.jpg

    eep2.jpg

    Any thoughts?

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    when you reinstalled the updates, did you go back into the game and readjust the graphics details? (the updates at simcity.com reset all graphics to low by default)

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    yep, that was the first thing I tried. Didn't work.

    Notice that not only are props and stuff missing, but the lawns are replaced with concrete under many of the houses.

    It simply boggles my mind.

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    I had the same problem. I went and downloaded and reinstalled every prop and texture file I could find. It was a major pain in the arse. If it ever happens again, I'm going to shelf this game. I'll probably shelf it once CivRome comes out. Good luck to you as there are to many props and texture files and it will take you some time.

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    This looks like some kind of texture conflict, do you have any other plugins installed besides the ones listed above? from the looks of the texture, the conflict looks like it might be coming from some kind of tarmac (airport set) I could be wrong, if you have other plugins installed I recommend the ole half in half out plugin search (credit to Noonie J. Moose lol),. take half your plugins out, load the game, se if the problem still exists, if it does, half them again, until the problem goes away, once it does reload just the last plugins you removed and repeat, you should be able to narrow down the plugin causing the issue rather quickly.

    hope this helps...

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