tomek4zielinski

This might be the one. Right before the bug, I used to download next and next mods to enrich my game. When I found one and downloaded it, such as new sports courts etc; I did add them to every city in the metropolis in one cycle. It was like this - mod found -> download -> load the city -> open, place, save, move on to another. I did it several times with bunch of mods, and time of gameplay for everycity to just add new building was certainly shorter than 10 years. But if this is it, how to get it fixed?

Ok, I'm back. I present the screenshots of every city of my metropolis with use of Census Office Mod. To remind, the R$$$ demand have dropped suddenly everywhere with no particular reason in every city connected to my metropolis. I've also uploaded pictures of poor and industrial cities where R$$$ demand is supposed to be low, but I wanted to picture the whole metropolis. Everywhere else, where everything was ok, in one day demands broke, despite workplaces, taxes, parks, connections, etc, and despite the day before that the demands were fine. Reffering to the pics, the city of Midtown was the very first built, you can see R$ and R$$ are supressed there, as a side effect of a corrupted vet clinic mod, bug present even after a mod removal; but it has never affected any city later build - which means all other. So I don't think it's the problem. I've deduced and got to some details - first, the story was like this - I finished the city of Marine (where R$$$ homes grew till the very end), then I started new city of Harley, using mods such as new jails, train and subway repair stations and first bicycle paths. After finishing it I started another new city of Emerald, and there, at the very beginning I noticed the negative R$$$ demand. I looked at another cities and this bug turned out to be present everywhere. Second, while making these pics I noticed that cities are loading much longer than earlier. I want to know if this knowledge gives you any ideas of what can be wrong.

Ok, I will try to find some free time in a few days and get to work with it.

All in-game necessities such as power, water, public services, taxes, land value and so on are an obvious thing. I'm SC4 player for many years and I've done many metropolital regions with no trouble. No workplaces are abandoned either. The opera house bug is not probable - where they had been placed, they have remained for a long time before the bug occured. And negative demand is also in the cities where it's not there. Even in those where I haven't placed anything yet. I do use many mods, but ploppable residences are not one of them, because there is always an error the inhabitants of the plopped one can't go to work and the building finally gets abandoned. I have mods with growable residences. But it's been a long time since the last change with residential mods and everything was fine even with them. Until now. There was a story. Half a year ago in my first city I added a vet clinic which supressed all residential demands to zero. I got scared and deleted the mod from the plugins with it's remnants on map, but the bug stayed this way and this city remained residentally supressed noone knows why, thankfully the city had been already finished, so I didn't care any more and continued on with the region. In other cities made later on (about 20) there was no trace of any bug even despite that one left unsolved. Until two days ago. But it's not the cause. I tried removing this square yesterday and the rest of the metropolis still remains in negative demand. I used demand ordinance mod, but literally for about two minutes. I didn't fancy them and they got deleted quickly, and it all happened also months ago. I even see the R$$$ houses built recently just before I saved the game for a last time and made a break. Even with all the mods already in use, few bug stories I had - there was a long period of time after this when everything worked fine. Like I said, it happened in a flash of an eye. I got an idea this morning - because separated cities are not touched by the bug, I can use this fact and try something - I will remove all the cities from my region folder, then I will start adding them back, but one by one. I will open every added one (unconnected to others at this point), check if demands are ok, save it, add another and so on. If after a certain city the demands would drop, I might find the guilty one. What is your opinion about this idea? Can it work? In the meantime while I'll be checking things out, please keep this thread in mind and notify me if you get another idea. Your community saved my region from prop pox once. I trust the resolve in on our way.

Hello everyone, once again I'm asking for help. There's unknown issue in my SC4. I had a break in playing, didn't launch the game for about three weeks, but when I launched it yesterday, I noticed that every city of my metropolis had a negative R$$$ demand (between -5000 and -6000, other demands are fine). Now in every city jobless icons appear above most of the existing R$$$ residences and my whole region begins to fall. I did some testing, I started the next city connected to others - the demand was low even before placing the first building, so no building mod is a cause, I suppose. I also remember my last gameplay before the break - everything was ok and I had always a positive demand, and I haven't added any new mod until today, I did not raise taxes, pollution, didn't remove parks, communications, jobs or public services. Then I started new city far away from others and unconnected - demand was all right. So this issue exists whenever something is a part of my metropolis, connected to an existing one. That's incredibly odd, because my last gameplay before three weeks ago worked fine and there was no such a bug anywhere. It looks like it appeared from nowhere. What's going on? It's beyond my comprehension. I'm aware of super demand and demand ordinance mod, but I don't find those mods as a resolve and I don't want them as the fix - they're not a fix, just a fake cover. It's even more difficult to build with them on, only tallest skyscrapers appear making the city look fake. I prefer finding a solution to bring the demand to it's natural behaviour. Help guys! It's been a long time since I made a backup region - many weeks of my work can be lost. I'll be glad for your effort.

Well, it was indeed a prop pox. Despite many years spent around SimCity 4 I didn't know about this bug. I've downloaded the fix and did everything according to the instructions - the city looks fine now even after reedit and overwrite. It seems the problem is gone. Thank you, you've saved my work!

Good morning, I need an advice because I can't deal with a serious error. It's like that: I have a big region with over a dozen cities making one big metropolis together. I use plenty of mods (over 400) including NAM, extra textures, props and many buildings with it's dependencies. So far it all used to go well and I couldn't find a single error anywhere. But yesterday after loading one major city I've noticed many objects missing, they are just empty flat surface. University, objects in residences, avenue bushes and so on. I used a backup file I'd made few days earlier, loaded it up and it was all ok. After doing some minor work I saved again, but then after reloading - once more, missing objects and flat surface instead of buildings. I suspected this exception to be some kind of error while saving or loading process. I tried to investigate this theory and I came back again to backup savegame, and overwrote it to check if the error reappears. I tried it over 5 times in a row with failure, but once city loaded succesfully. I hoped I have overrun the error and made a savegame. I quitted to region, did a prayer and then loaded it again - sadly, flat textures again. I can't edit and overwrite this city any more, because every time i do that, this flat texture error appears and I can't go any further with this city. It's pretty exceptional, because: - All other cities are healthy, even those with more data in it (modded buildings, higher population), and also remain fine after overwriting - There's no mod in this city which isn't already used in other, fine working cities - Once the city loaded successfully, so it must depend on something I have also noticed this city loads up and saves longer than others. - My PC never had any problems with graphic settings, game was always running fine (once a day the game quits itself to the desktop without warning, but I heard it's a common thing - i had this error with every version of SC4 on every computer since 2003) What can it be? Is there any way to fix it, has anyone ever faced with it? Please don't tell me I have to do the city all over again. This vision makes me suicidal, I have put a lot of effort in building it. Help guys, please! I'll be glad for any of your effort.