DuskTrooper

AHEM....any updates on this?

Looks like a 3d version of SC3k essentially, but it's still quite gorgeous. Looks "cartoonish", but not in a tacky manner like Societies. This game is going to be awesome! It's just a shame that I'll be busy working with modeling wood and chipboard instead of this, but those materials have their perks as well.

Blast it, I missed all the fun! Oh well, a secret santa snagged a key for me, anyway.

Heh...I've been away for so long, and I just downloaded all of the amazing things you guys have made over the past year. Thanks for all the great work!

Must have had the same designers/engineers as the Dallas Cowboy's practice facility.

Calamari, anyone?

A few well aimed Tomahawks will take care of this.

6 yrs, and like two months for me....*shrugs shoulders*

Simple. Raise the taxes on the poor to 20%. They won't beat your door down for any welfare anytime soon.

Hmm....economic effect of IRL pirates hijacking cargo ships vs that of OL pirating....I srsly wonder which one is or SHOULD be the larger priority?

All in favor of the annex...say aye... AYE! *pounds gavel* Congratulations. Welcome to the Dirktatorship.

Carpet bomb em. Simple as that.

Oh great, here they come again.....

Keep in mind that our point of view is not the same as an esoteric language of law as you state yourself, so do not expect us to look at it the same way as you do. Thus, you cannot attempt to pigeonhole the various points as non sequiturs, and cliche; they hold water in one sense, but may not be interpreted as having any meaning in another sense. If you want to present this idea to others who are not law students, then you cannot speak purely in technicality; you'll have to utilize a language that others can understand. But hey, if you can indeed formulate a significant case against them, then go for it. Keep us updated, and I'll buy you a drink if it gets heard. Once again though, I want to see substantial comparisons between actual performance and the promised performance, along with the frequency and quantity of complains from the party you want to represent.

Originally posted by: nspeds The basis of a lawsuit would be this (Dusktrooper's naive perspective seems to focus exclusively on tort liability; that would, indeed, be a stupid lawsuit to engage in): Breach of contract. On Aspyr's website and in the product, Simcity 4 is advertised as being able to perform certain functions. Those functions don't really work optimally, or at all in some instances, rendering the product distinct from the one you expected to have when you paid 49.95. What would the remedy be? It depends. We probably wouldn't get specific performance in terms of Aspyr fixing the game (though that might be a better option). What we could get, though, is expectation damages, which would comprise the monetary value of the difference between the product we should have had and the one we actually received. Since these damages are difficult to quantify, maybe specific performance would be better. It depends on the Uniform Commercial Code.quote> The contract here, once again, isn't something that has substantial value behind it. It is a game; entertainment, and nothing more. It is not a crucial banking software or nuclear simulator whose failure has led to more than just a frustrated gameplayer. Sure, there are instances where failed entertainment has resulted in a refund (ie rained out ballgames, etc), but those instances usually have a much larger liability than a computer game. However, if the product does indeed NOT perform according to the advertised functions, then please gather sufficient evidence in various forms to present to us, in order to prove your case. Still, the monetary damages issue is absurd. The main thing here that amuses me is the attitude of entitlement; the desire to "get what we deserve". It's a damn game, and to believe that the manufacturers would hold to their word 100% to any product is beyond naiive. As stated above; life isn't fair; it never has been, never will be. You could simply vote with your feet and move to another competing product. If I had that attitude with the way things in life have been, I would have filed many suits long ago against many entities, including the Church, school, my parents, etc. Sure, they had the disclaimer now and then that "life is not fair". Since life has proven to be even more "unfair" then they stated beforehand. Hell, fairness is in the eye of the beholder; you can turn anything to your advantage or disadvantage. EA may hold the monopoly with SC4, but it's all we have at the moment. You could take your tenacity with this scheme, and perhaps take it to Monte Cristo to convince them to make a decent working version of CXL for Mac. Since EA's product is no good, then move on; this will empower the competition of EA, and give them more clout; they do deserve it after all since Monte Cristo has been working with us in regards to CXL. But hey, if your aim here is to go after the "big bad corporations" and the way they kick "us consumers" around is your goal, then I say go for it. You will just join the list of vain martyrs who went about a revolution the wrong way. The road to hell is paved with those who had good intentions. Please tell your professor about your plan. I would love to hear his response. PS: perhaps it's your own fault for expecting a game to function on a MAC; something that does not have many games on it. Once again, life is unfair, and there are few choices it seems, but what can you do, eh? Frivoluous lawsuits would not acheive anything; the only way to change things is to vote with your feet and dollars by supporting other companies that provide better products. By attempting to portray the "big evil corporations" as monsters in a massive conspiracy theory where they control us all gives them more power and attention than they deserve. But hey, good luck with all that, and I srsly want to see what else you have to say. I'd actually LOVE to be proven wrong; you just have not been able to substantiate anything you've said so far. This is like suing the tip of the iceberg for sinking the Titanic; it doesn't clearly advertise the large mass below, but it's there, and you have to deal with it. Next time, steer clear. (About the topic, not each other)

Still, why would a class action suit, let alone ANY lawsuit be called for here? it isn't like there has been any substantial loss in property, or any personal injuries that have been caused by this game. Furthermore, "poor performance" of software and minor issues do not equate to any substantial data loss, or hardware damage. The time and effort required to even start such a preposterous and cockamamy suit would far outweigh anything you would collect anyway. Besides, what exactly would the winnings consist of? It isn't like you're filing suit over a crucial banking program that misplaces a few decimals here and there; this is a GAME. Please elaborate more on this scheme of yours, and go into deep legal details. I find this whole arrangement hilarious, with touches of delusions of grandeur. BEKUZ SC4=SRS BZNS U GUISE

Umm, isn't there a legal waiver you automatically agree to when installing any software or whatever? Whatever, I say go ahead with your lawsuit. Keep us updated with your progress. Yeah....

Originally posted by: Easy Bakes Originally posted by: SkiGeek Don't worry. I can catch you up on the plot for the last 72 years. Oh, George! George! You can't do this to me, George! quote> Shut up, Cecilia. I'm leaving quote> But, George! Think of our marriage. Think of the children! Oh, George!quote> Cecilia, shut your mouth!quote> George slams the door as he walks out Mommy . . . where's Daddy? quote> He . . . sob . . . went out to get some ice cream quote> Five years later . . . Gee! Where is Daddy with that ice cream? quote> Well . . . those are the highlights. quote> And Dont forget Georges twin brother who marries Cecilla 6 years later. quote> Which way did he go, George, which way did he go?

Very nice! However, for the sake of the game's odd proportions, and to prevent the roofs from looking flat, I'd suggest that you increase the slope by at least 30 percent. It's been a while, mate; I just wanted to check in and pitch in my two cents!

Originally posted by: dirk Originally posted by: DuskTrooper Excellent! This game looks like it could easily surpass SC4 in terms of customization and the like. I certainly hope they can come up with some sort of region play however. 10x10 km is a nice size, but it's only about the size of 4 large SC4 cities placed together; hardly large enough for a metropolitan area. Excellent review, Dirk! The anticipation is building!quote> I am almost certain based on what we talked about when I was there, that you can build mutliple cities in single-player and connect them to each other, and trade resources, so, essentially "region play". But I'll get more official info on this. quote> This is so awesome, that I need a smoke... jk Can't wait, mate!

Excellent! This game looks like it could easily surpass SC4 in terms of customization and the like. I certainly hope they can come up with some sort of region play however. 10x10 km is a nice size, but it's only about the size of 4 large SC4 cities placed together; hardly large enough for a metropolitan area. Excellent review, Dirk! The anticipation is building!

The rendering times though....EEEEEEEEEE!

Originally posted by: SkiGeek The home of Slipknot! . . . had a Sloppet flashback there for a second . . . quote> Des Moines even! XD I srsly wonder what happened to that dude

Iowa? Ya know what this means? Your uncle can now also be your wife! ...yeah...

You people.... Although an ST con part would be pretty killa