Region View

[Harry's Place 918]

Hello everybody. I have a small issue. I've downloaded an american style transportation view for my region. But when i load the game there is still the nam view. Sorry for this $%&^! question but where should i put the file?

[Ro-Bo 183]

Try putting it in the z___NAM folder.

[GeometryMath Algebra 614]

I think the Regional Transportation Map that comes with the NAM (mainly for the RHW system) is not compatible with other RTM's. Remove the RealHighway_Regional_Transport_Map.dat located in your RealHighway Mod folder inside the NAM folder if you want to switch to another RTM. However, the RTM you maybe using may not be compatible with the RHW.

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

If you want to test this mod for general override put it in a folder named zzz_Zoverides.  This should place it last on the loading list.  It should override any file using the same exemplar.

[Harry's Place 918]

nonr of this above works

i have the lates nam used on the european version of SimCity 4, the RTM i want ti use is HBS American Style ()

 

ah it seems that i have to enter , save and exit every city tile for this to work.

[GeometryMath Algebra 614]

nonr of this above works 

i have the lates nam used on the european version of SimCity 4, the RTM i want ti use is HBS American Style ()

 

ah it seems that i have to enter , save and exit every city tile for this to work.

 

I think it's recommended to use the Regional Transportation Map of the NAM rather than HBS' RTM because the NAM's RTM displays RHW, while HBS' RTM doesn't display the RHW, unfortunately. The NAM's RTM doesn't look half as bad either!

[Harry's Place 918]

I'll keep the NAM cause it has some issues, but i really loved that american look of HBS ))

[z1 566]

If you want to test this mod for general override put it in a folder named zzz_Zoverides.  This should place it last on the loading list.

It doesn't.  In Windows, '_' comes after 'z' in loading order, so the z___NAM folder would still load last.

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

Do whatever you need to force the load last as needed.  Your wonderful NAM folder doesn't load last on my system.  Here is the tail of my collated plugins folder:

 

├── vlasky
├── Wallibuk
├── Xyloxadoria
├── z1
├── z___IndustrialTextures
├── z___NAM
├── z__Reskins
├── ZZZ-MTP
├── ZZZ PEG Facelift Mods
├── zzz_SAMTransitions
├── zzz_terrainmod
└── ZZZZ_PEG SEAPORTS
 

[NCGAIO 562]

In general all this discussion about the order of loading mods boils down to a solution of type "load the my for latter that everything will work like this in my project"

 

When it comes to models or textures is easy to understand but when changing parameters that define the game at startup is a bit more complicated.

 

Overall the mods that alter the tuning parameters are "one or the other" then it makes non sense to have both in the same load.

 

When attached tuning mods on larger projects would be necessary to make clear that other things may not work as before.

[McDuell 301]

If you want to test this mod for general override put it in a folder named zzz_Zoverides.  This should place it last on the loading list.

It doesn't.  In Windows, '_' comes after 'z' in loading order, so the z___NAM folder would still load last.

 

 

Do whatever you need to force the load last as needed.  Your wonderful NAM folder doesn't load last on my system.  Here is the tail of my collated plugins folder:

 

├── vlasky

├── Wallibuk

├── Xyloxadoria

├── z1

├── z___IndustrialTextures

├── z___NAM

├── z__Reskins

├── ZZZ-MTP

├── ZZZ PEG Facelift Mods

├── zzz_SAMTransitions

├── zzz_terrainmod

└── ZZZZ_PEG SEAPORTS

 

 

It seems that Linux orders the folders differently than Windows (7). The Windows Explorer shows the files as follows:

 

Here, the underscores are listed alphabetically before all letters (and numbers). In Linux, its after numbers but before letters. However, all these listings are not relevant as SimCity 4 has its own load order. Rivit made a fine tool called where you can check the loading sequence of each file and folder as SimCity4 does it, which shows like this:

So in fact, the "z___NAM" folder does load after every other "zz"<anything> folder, at least in Windows. I don't know anything about Linux. A Nonny Moose, is there a possibility for you to run this program? (It's written in VB.NET version 2.0)

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

I have datanode, but in fact I am having difficulty getting it to run under wine.  I am missing one or more libraries that, once I identify them, I could get them into the environment.  However, I am not curious enough to pursue this.  If the game loads stuff in ASCII ascending sequence by file name which is appended to the complete path name thereby putting the folder names in precedence, then it is the same collating sequence as Linux.

 

Some afternoon when I am feeling really keen about this, I will fix this problem.  But it doesn't affect me at the moment as everything is running just fine.  There are a couple of problems with gmax that have precedence over this, however, as I really would like to get back to doing some updates to my old BATs and maybe a couple of new ones I have ideas for.

 

As for collating sequences, there are really only the two: SI based on the extended ASCII codes, and IBM or EBCDIC which should have gone out with high button shoes.  In both cases, the collating sequence is based on the binary value of the characters.  SI, of course, includes the 16-bit character repertoire if you are running that code.

[z1 566]

It seems that Linux orders the folders differently than Windows (7). The Windows Explorer shows the files as follows:

Unfortunately, Windows Explorer does not display the files in the order in which they appear in Windows.  For example, in the picture above, after the folders, the file starting with '~' is displayed before all the other files.  In reality, this file loads at the end (which was the intention), after files beginning with 'z' and '_'.

 

And in terms of special characters, it seems that Linux is basically the reverse of Windows.

 

As for collating sequences, there are really only the two: SI based on the extended ASCII codes, and IBM or EBCDIC which should have gone out with high button shoes.  In both cases, the collating sequence is based on the binary value of the characters.  SI, of course, includes the 16-bit character repertoire if you are running that code.

 

This makes sense, but it appears that Windows is using its own ordering system here.

[paeng 2,507]

I tired of all my ~#zzz____ folders... nowadays I number my overrides like z01_..., z02_..., z03_... etc. and never looked back.

 

This system also has the advantage that you can change the load order simply by renaming the order number (e.g. reverse 02 vs 03 etc.)

 

If you do that a lot, name them in steps of 10 (z10, z20, z30 etc.) so you always have lots of 'free' slots....

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

Very systematic.  I prefer symbolic names, but everyone to his own taste.

[tycoonsimraider123 16]

Now, I've looked for the "RealHighway_Regional_Transport_Map.dat" in my plugins folder, to attempt to delete it, but I couldn't find it, and as far as I know, I don't have any other RTM's than the one I'm trying to work with (HBS American Style). If anyone can guide me to an answer as to why I'm having difficulties installing the RTM, Id be extremely grateful! And for those of you reading this, haappy holidays!

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

Which version of the NAM are you running?

[wasso38 10]

i want to use the HBS region transportation map! but how i can install it and how it works in the game?

[z1 566]

The Real Highway Regional Transport Map is an option in the NAM installation, and it is off by default.  If you have turned it on, why way or another, just rerun the installer and select the Custom install.  The option should be down at the bottom of the text box on the Components page; you may have to scroll a little to reach it.  If you're running NAM 32, it is under "Real Highway Options" in the same location.

 

In general, it is not good just to delete files from the NAM, due to various dependencies.  It is much better to change your configuration by rerunning the installer.  In this sense, it's good to treat the NAM as you would any other program.

 

To use another transport map, just install it in your Plugins folder.  Then, run the game, and in the Region view, click the left top button and select "Transportation View".

[wasso38 10]

The Real Highway Regional Transport Map is an option in the NAM installation, and it is off by default.  If you have turned it on, why way or another, just rerun the installer and select the Custom install.  The option should be down at the bottom of the text box on the Components page; you may have to scroll a little to reach it.  If you're running NAM 32, it is under "Real Highway Options" in the same location.

 

In general, it is not good just to delete files from the NAM, due to various dependencies.  It is much better to change your configuration by rerunning the installer.  In this sense, it's good to treat the NAM as you would any other program.

 

To use another transport map, just install it in your Plugins folder.  Then, run the game, and in the Region view, click the left top button and select "Transportation View".

not worked. i'm just entered every city tiles. save the game. go to "Transportation View". but it's still not working. deleted the RHW regional map.dat in my NAM folder. reinstalled NAM. but it's still not working.

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

Can you post a picture of your full region including the open panel of view controls?

[wasso38 10]

Can you post a picture of your full region including the open panel of view controls?

sorry i can't. i was uploading the photo. but it says "upload failed". because my internet is so damn slow!!!

[GeometryMath Algebra 614]

sorry i can't. i was uploading the photo. but it says "upload failed". because my internet is so damn slow!!!

Try using other photo sharing websites, such as 'TinyPic'.

[wasso38 10]

 

sorry i can't. i was uploading the photo. but it says "upload failed". because my internet is so damn slow!!!

Try using other photo sharing websites, such as 'TinyPic'.

 

i tried all of photo sharing websites. all of them are "upload failed". because of my damn internet that is so slow!!!