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Sims are dayflies?

Sims live for only one day?  

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It would seem to me that a 'dayfly' model would be plagued by feedback problems. My brother had designed a city with the usual train or car choice for commuting. I'm not sure if the problem could be recreated on demand, but the simulation started swinging between everybody tries the train one period, got angry with the congestion, then everybody drove the next period.

A 'dayfly' would possibly bring home a 'traffic is bad, try another route tomorrow' tag, and not have the ability to recognize that 'traffic was bad that other day on that other route'.

Perhaps there is a solution already in place, but it seems to me that the better way would be updating X% of the population each day instead of 'everyone find work every day'.

I vote more info needed.

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It wouldn't be that the person remembers traffic was bad, but the house would. As long as the end result is similar to tracking each sim it shouldn't be a problem

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As long as the game properly simulates where certain classes of sims live based on desirability factors and can properly simulate commutes I'm happy.

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I don't understand the problem. Some seem to be attached to the idea of being able to watch individualized sims go to work everyday, come home, get up the next day etc. But this is really just a novelty which has little bearing on a good simulation for the whole city. I have no idea why anyone would consider this a dealbreaker, as all previous Maxis Simcities didn't have any real sims at all, not even dayflies.

My brother had designed a city with the usual train or car choice for commuting. I'm not sure if the problem could be recreated on demand, but the simulation started swinging between everybody tries the train one period, got angry with the congestion, then everybody drove the next period.
Yes I've seen this issue a few times, usually between usage of a Bus Stop and congestion of the road it's on. Bus Stop usage will swing up, traffic congestion swings down, but then Bus Stop usage swings back down and traffic congestion back up, ad infinitum. Not sure what causes it though.

I've been pushing for the integration of Simcity with The Sims since I bought sc4 in 2004, but obviously not at the expense of either side of the game.

Really? I've enjoyed playing the Sims, but in spite of some overlap in subject matter, they play completely differently, you deal with entirely different things. I don't see how integration couldn't detract from both games, sims in The Sims are way too complex to be simulated across an entire city, whereas sims in Simcity will be vastly too simple to be interesting up close for the foreseeable future.

EDIT: Though I wouldn't be averse to a standalone integration that openly occupied a middle ground - I was quite disappointed by the cancellation of Simsville. Though I wouldn't envy the job of marketing it, necessarily it would be more macro than the Sims and more micro than Simcity, and compromises would have to made.


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Dayflies are still better than "just another statistic." However, I did have a (literal) dream where I built a city and then clicked on a house and played like the Sims 2 (including build, buy, and live mode) then clicked on an apartment building and built myself an apartment near the top.

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