Reproducible CTD

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

Well, today I got a CTD of the usual kind, but it was reproducible. I isolated it to adding a single tile to a street after several game restarts. Has anyone else had a situation like this where you could not continue the city as intended? My city is not corrupted since I can restart it with no problem.

If no one is interested in this, I'll find a work around in about a week.

[Jazzmaster 716]

Well, today I got a CTD of the usual kind, but it was reproducible. I isolated it to adding a single tile to a street after several game restarts. Has anyone else had a situation like this where you could not continue the city as intended? My city is not corrupted since I can restart it with no problem.

If no one is interested in this, I'll find a work around in about a week.

Something similar happened to me recently; I'm sure I posted about it in the 'Issues w/ Large Cities?' thread of mine. In particular, I would place a roundabout, the game would crash. Perhaps that's a bit more on the 'complex, third party infrastructure' side, but still, always the roundabout, always the same location I tried to plop it in. Hit CTRL+S and I'd see my desktop wallpaper in a few seconds. Needless to say I wasn't amused.

[CaptCity 4,669]

Don't know if this applies in either of the above cases, but it is possible that using a tree mod that places non-default trees in the city could create this situation. Removing the tree mod plugin without demolishing the trees first could cause a crash. Without the mod (including the tree model file), the space is still "reserved" (if that's the correct word) as a tree even though it won't be visible. Any type of plopping that alters the terrain of this "reserved" space might cause a crash. Just a thought...

[Jazzmaster 716]

Don't know if this applies in either of the above cases, but it is possible that using a tree mod that places non-default trees in the city could create this situation. Removing the tree mod plugin without demolishing the trees first could cause a crash. Without the mod (including the tree model file), the space is still "reserved" (if that's the correct word) as a tree even though it won't be visible. Any type of plopping that alters the terrain of this "reserved" space might cause a crash. Just a thought...

I've been kicking around this theory myself. One of my cities recently 'destabilized' and after some thought, I remembered that it has had a lot of plugin interchange; that is, I would remove plugins but leave the lots or whatever sitting in this city. It probably brought it to its knees; every other save meant a CTD. No problems with it since I started from scratch. I now have a delete-before-delete policy...removing from the city before removing from my plugins suite.

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

Hmmm. I have recently added PEG's MTP tree mods, but I haven't removed them. Taking a thing like that out really means scrapping the region it is in. However, my work around will be simply to move the road over a couple of tiles to see if this makes a difference. Will probably try it later in the week.

I am actually committed to that tree mod, as it makes my cities look more like the native forest around here.

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

And the work around was bulldozing the trees on either side of the desired path. I guess there were tree roots in the way.

[emperordaniel 1,281]

So apparently, the trees were causing SC4 to CTD? Serves 'em right that they were bulldozed then

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

So apparently, the trees were causing SC4 to CTD? Serves 'em right that they were bulldozed then

The interesting point is the scope of the trees. There were none on the tile I wanted to use, but they were on both sides of it. This is the PEG MTP tree mod.

[Fully 0]

Oh my God Im so happy I read this.

I've been having constant CTD's on one of my tiles and was driving me crazy why none of the fixes were working

I remember removing a solitary dat file for a tree plop so replaced it.

The game is no longer crashing and is working fine again :-)

The file was part of the 'BSC Props Jeronij Vol 3 Trees Seasonal Woods'

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

Further to this, I discovered that my Region was suffering from bit loss disease, and cities started disappearing. It is an old region, so I simply rerendered it and started over. I was getting bored with it anyway. The first city of the new region is doing fine, thank you, and in the black. If you are running a default gray-scale map, the game will happily rerender it without deleting the old cities.