Roman BAT Project

[Björn_1984 244]

So far, it still looks great! Have you tested it ingame yet?

[aldara6166 109]

Either way I think it looks good.  Personally, I think that the circular version looks just a tad bit better.

Alot of times, there are people out there with super jacked up PC's that are willing to render stuff for people.  Maybe you can look through the BAT Request Thread and see if somebody there could do that for you using the circular version...just a suggestion.

 

And as far as me being too excited or enthusiastic for a potential project...well, do you think that Thomas Edison was laxidasical (sp) when he came up with any of his invention ideas?  Do you think that Ford was laid back when he came up with the idea for the assembly line?  If any project is going to get off the ground, it's main supporters need to be excited about the project.  I was simply asking, for my own knowledge, if a SimRome project would get any support.  I realize it won't be done overnight.  I also don't expect that franky_83 would be the only BAT'er either.  Just look at the BSC farming project...there are a ton of people working on that one.  Just my $0.02 on the project.

 

I'll end my opinion by saying...your work looks great!   Whether or not there is a SimRome project growing out of your current BAT, I will certainly download it!  Keep em coming...

[HighRiser 6]

Wow, that is absolutly beautiful. The idea's you have here are something that I have longed for ever since this game came out. To be able to build a Roman city/region would be astounding.

[timo 15]

Found an interesting url. Hope you can read french!

http://www.unicaen.fr/rome/virtuel.php?action=edifice&langue=francais&id=colisee&idMonu=60

 

There you'll find a java applet wich displays virtual pics of the coliseum. There are interesting ones about rope systems and velum (kind of big sun umbrela / roof).

 

There you'll find 2 videos showing this velum system :

http://www.unicaen.fr/rome/virtuel.php?action=video&langue=francais&id=colisee&idMonu=60

 

Maybe the rest of the website is interesting too... I was just quickly looking for pics...

 

Are these links usefull to you? If they are maybe I'll update this post with new links...

[HighRiser 6]

Very interesting site. I never realized that they used a roof system like that on the coliseum. Thanks for sharing timo

[franky_83 8]

Aldara6166...I like your enthusiasm...About the round version...just making it crashed my old file...so I lost it...luckily I made a backup file.  I figured it never hurts to do so...thank God I did.  I did like the round version but I found it made the arena too large...this version is much more realistic in terms of Roman amphitheaters.  I might attempt to make the large version as I planned before...i'll just have to defragment my hardrive before doing so.  I do plan on making more buildings as well...as most of you already know...smaller ones, of course...I wanted to get the big one done and out of the way first. 

Thank you so much for the links, Timo...Yes I do speak French fluently, which is good in my case.  I can also speak German and Russian.  So any websites in those languages, I can read. This has really helped me a great deal.

 

 

I am batting statues today...but before I add them to the project...does anyone oppose?  I guess i'm trying to incorporate a style from Vatican City

 

 

 

 

[timo 15]

Cool, here are other links I found :

a few pics :
http://www0.dfj.vd.ch/gybur/BRANCHES/latin/POMPEI/amphitheatre.htm
http://www0.dfj.vd.ch/gybur/BRANCHES/latin/POMPEI/grand_theatre.htm
http://stephdelarue.chez.tiscali.fr/Monographie/Annexes/image63.htm
http://www.culture.fr/Groups/etudes_et_recherches_culturelles/article_8_fr/block_10693418029322/vignette

Very nice website about antic Paris. Cool animations there... In english!
http://www.paris.culture.fr/en/

Roman theatre proportions :

You should find useful info for bating roman stuff! And good luck for the statues!

[franky_83 8]

This is the last update I am showing before the BAT's release either today (Friday) or Saturday.  I still need to add the gates inside the arena...as well as other accessories...plus I have must also add the outside gate.  Here is what I got so far...the orange string color will be changed:

https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/files//dot.JPG align=baseline>

[scififan68 23]

Date: 6/24/2005 2:37:36 AM Author: franky_83

This is the last update I am showing before the BAT's release either today (Friday) or Saturday.  I still need to add the gates inside the arena...as well as other accessories...plus I have must also add the outside gate.  Here is what I got so far...the orange string color will be changed:

https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/files//dot.JPG align=baseline>

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Oh S***!! that is amazing!! GREAT JOB!!!

[timo 15]

Wow, it's really impressive now! It looks more like real to me. Good job!

Don't release it too early! A little more work and it'll be perfect! I'd like to see closer pics of the exterior.

[franky_83 8]

I know I keep changing my mind on the release date...but I can't release it today.  I tend to be a perfectionist...and I keep tearing the building down and rebuilding it.  Hopefully I can get it done by Wednesday.  Right now I am working on LOD shells that will allow the view of gladiators combatting inside.  I also want to make the whole thing a bit smaller so it can fit on at least an 8x8 size lot.  I have the statues done...I just need to place them in the arcades. 

Does anyone have any tips on nightlighting in ancient buildings?  I know they didn't have electricity.  I wonder if the buildings remained dark during the night when empty...not sure, though.

[debussyman 1,349]

Wow! this is comming along pretty well, but take your time. I would suggest that you changed the texture of the top cover, make it more weavy. About the nitelites, I'd suggest some omnis in the exterior bottom, around the arena and on the ways between seats; but make them very soft and short in order to get a torch look, perhaps you could bat some of them too.

[franky_83 8]

Good idea about the nightlights...about the cover...there is no texture...but I can make it pleated...i'll just realign some vertices.  After I finish this...don't know when I will exactly...I guess once i'm satisfied...I will start the hardest part of the project (designing the lot). 

[Yuting19880820 0]

franky_83:

have you ever played CAESAR games ?

 

The ingame buildings are very good (Although we can only see it in one angle)

Your BAT is truly amazing, which reminds me the CAESAR 3. I love Roman style because of this game. I hope i can show you some great pictures but i have no more time today.

i'll track this thread.

 

Keep awesome work!!

 

Yuting

[franky_83 8]

Thanx Yuting19880820

That would be cool if you could show some pictures.  I've never played Caesar games before...Actually Sim City 4 and the Sims 2 are the only games i've really played.  But I did hear about the Caesar III game and its buildings...which I could copy if I saw them.  

 

This project is coming along nicely but I am still not ready to release it...it still needs work as well as a well-designed lot.  I will try to upload it by Wednesday if at that point it is completely ready for upload.  I will probably take a day or two to test the new lot in the game...just to see that the props and nightlights show up.  

 

One good question... I wanted to ask everyone was...Should this building have jobs or not?  And if 'yes' then how many and what wealth level?

 

Anyway, I'll keep everyone posted. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[timo 15]

Take your time! Everyone's OK to wait a little more for a perfect BAT!

I don't think it needs job, but that's just my opinion...

[franky_83 8]

Cool...in that case i'll push the release date to next Friday...this should give me plenty of time to get all done.

[HighRiser 6]

What a beauty that is with the fabric roof. It's to bad it can't be animated with sim's in Roman attire filling the stadium and the animated roof closing over the coliseum.

[franky_83 8]

Exactly what I was thinking...it's such a shame that the bat doesn't support animations.  It would be so nice if the cover could be retractable.  Hopefully those guys at maxis develop a plugin allowing animations one day...I'm not sure exactly whether they will or not...in fact I doubt they will...but it would have been nice.

[Yuting19880820 0]

I 've tried to get some...

 

Colosseum

this appears in the animation before playing the game

 

 

this is the ingame picture

 

https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/files//CAESAR-3-BUILDINGS-4.jpg align=baseline>

it looks very good, so as your excellent job.

 

Yuting

[Yuting19880820 0]

I just found the following pictures in the movie GLADIATOR .

Especially notice the roof. (is it called roof? Anyway, i mean the red stuff in yor bat.)

 

https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/files//intheMOVIEgladiator2.jpg align=baseline>

 

https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/files//intheMOVIEgladiator.jpg align=baseline>

 

[timo 15]

I think it's called velum. Nice pics!

[franky_83 8]

Nice pics...I've just posted another update...once again.  Notice how I retracted the cover.  I'm still working on it...gotta attach the velum to the posts.  Also, I have yet to do the nightlighting as well as a few more tweaks.  Here's what I got so far:

 

https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/files//update7.JPG align=baseline>

[Yuting19880820 0]

IT LOOKS EVEN BETTER NOW

[timo 15]

Good job on the statues!

[hobostank 8]

Good Work.When will we see this on the STEX?

[debussyman 1,349]

Date: 6/25/2005 12:52:57 PM
Author: franky_83

Exactly what I was thinking...it's such a shame that the bat doesn't support animations. It would be so nice if the cover could be retractable. Hopefully those guys at maxis develop a plugin allowing animations one day...I'm not sure exactly whether they will or not...in fact I doubt they will...but it would have been nice.

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About the roof, you could make it seasonable, some seasons retracted and some with the roof, maybe a couple of other differences.

[Lord_Bertrum 3]

Date: 6/26/2005 7:59:06 PM Author: debussyman

Date: 6/25/2005 12:52:57 PM Author: franky_83

Exactly what I was thinking...it's such a shame that the bat doesn't support animations.  It would be so nice if the cover could be retractable.  Hopefully those guys at maxis develop a plugin allowing animations one day...I'm not sure exactly whether they will or not...in fact I doubt they will...but it would have been nice.

quote> About the roof, you could make it seasonable, some seasons retracted and some with the roof, maybe a couple of other differences.

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That sounds like a good idea to me

[franky_83 8]

Hobostank:

 

I just finished the BAT earlier today...but I am still making adjustments as new ideas come into my head.  At this point I have to be very careful about my polygon count...as this structure currently has 1,526,072 polygons.  I still have to bat a few props for the lot.  So I'm not sure when I can release it...but it shouldn't be too long now.

 

Debussyman:

 

What do you mean by make seasonable?

 

[debussyman 1,349]

I mean making it like peg's trees, which change every certain time, like every month or so.