Any alternative to Oppie's canals? Or any update?

[0rion79 1]

Hi:

in short, I just love them but their location in the recreation & parks menu is terrible: they should be at the bottom and not at the top of it, and similar icons should be grouped together, for a better easy of use and a faster menu scrolling.

is there any update? Or any alternative with a better menu location?

Thanks

[Zwabberaar 18]

No and No, but if you use simcity4tool you can easily change it yourself.

[0rion79 1]

I'm not very confident with tools, and really in short of time... even more, I'm not sure I want to change somebody else work.

I'm very jealous of my own work (like an old Temple of Elemental Evil patch that I've made years ago), so I know how Oppie would feel 'bout it!

[Duvad 26]

I can assure you Oppie will not care at all either way. People update other people's work all the time. Releasing it on the STEX is different.

[Cleaner475 150]

yeah as long as you don't release it on the STEX its ok (unless you get permission to release it on the STEX) I change peoples work all the time - I re-lot certain building I change certain things like Capacity etc.

Try sc4tool - I think that works for changing menu position or if you know a thing or two try Ilivereader or a program like that.

[0rion79 1]

In verity, I'm not skilled at all: I have a sort of easy of use ability that allows me to quickly learn to use editors, but now I'm preparing my university thesis and I really have no time for that. If I use my PC, it is just to relax for a while between one study session and the other.

I got SC4tools and I can try only if somebody of you is so kind to tell me at least where to focus my attention: there are just too many options in the SC4tools!

To be honest, since this Oppie looks pretty skilled, I don't understand why he never grouped together his canal icons: is there any way to contact him?

[NetPCDoc 1]

The SC4Tool you would be looking for would be the "exemplar editor" - use it to edit the plop-able lots - then under "building" find the "Item Order" property - the value of this property is used to group items in the menu system.

I think Oppie made his canals before SC4Tool was even a dream in it's creators minds.

-NetPCDoc

No detail is too small to be micromanaged.

[0rion79 1]

I believe that I've found the problem: there is no "item order" propriety in OCS,. Using this guide ( https://www.simtropolis.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=121&threadid=62826&STARTPAGE=14 ) I've been able to locate where it should be and it is missing in every canal lot. Still, the program does not allow it to be placed anywhere. How may I add it?

EDIT:

luckily, I've been able to find how to add the voice: under the comparer tool, there is the empty slot for "item order". Once found, I've had to manually add one by one each canal and give 'em the wanted value.

One more question: How do I merge more icons under the same one, shifting the building with the TAB key?

[Andreas Roth 614]

You can't merge several icons under the same one, this is reserved for network items. But you can use the MML Mod (search for BSC MML Mod or my user name at the STEX) to achieve something similar. Make sure to read the readme file properly before using this mod.

[0rion79 1]

I did it, thanks!