Another Mystery from BEJA

[BEJA 2]

Ok!....so there I am playing in one of my cities, and all is going great until I noticed that my RLS Resort Hotel is missing its Tower portion of the hotel!

  Well, panic set in with this old mayor, and I went scrambling searching for missing dependancies and found none!  

   After some research and searching, I went back in to the city and re-ploped the Hotel and lo and behold it was all there....phew!

    So I took a dinner break and then reloaded the city, and unfortunately the patrons of the Hotel are gone again, as the Tower portion is missing!  Also, I noticed one of those pesky Plugin Packs notices....so I utilised SCTool and Cleanitol to determine what, if any, texture packs and prop packs are missing....I did find two that were missing, so I installed them and conducted another search and came up with no others missing.

    I began playing the game again, and the same situation occurred....Plugin Pack missing notice....and the Tower portion missing from the hotel.  I bulldozed and reploped and all was back to normal.  Kept playing for about two hours and packed it in for the night.....all was fine and properly saved the game....next morning same thing occurred!

   So as far as I know, I have all the plugins and such, and when you plop the Resort it is all there, only when you exit and come back are portions missing!

  This does not impair the playing of the game, just another mystery from the world of BEJA!

 Bruce

[BEJA 2]

Here are two pictures showing what I'm talking about.

  In addition, I have this Vacation Resort in another city, which has a Plugin Pack missing notice as well, however the resort is fine in that city.

   Having these Plugin Pack notices pop up...I realise that I have something missing, however I am not sure what....I'll keep searching, however I do not know if the disappearing problem of the lot is related to the Plugin notices.

  Bruce 

[BEJA 2]

....I realise I started this thread off with attempted humour, however now my situation is getting serious. Please look at the pictures in my previous reply. These have been taken from the city of Wesley, which also has Plugin Pack 274755764 popping up as missing. As previously stated, if I re-plop the Vacation Resort, then it is all there. However, now it seems that more lots are experiencing the same thing. All the ones that seem to be affected are related to BSC. As an example, the Urban Bus Stops, and...get this, not every Bus Stop is missing something! Only some!

Further, if I enter one of my other cities...Westport, it has Plugin Pack #1383259789 missing. However, the same lots seem to be ok, such as the Vacation Resort is intact.

I am not seeing any brown boxes, or multi-coloured indicators that tell me that a prop is missing...just what I have described above.

I realise that with the Plugin Packs missing message that I am missing something, however I have re-installed as many Mega packs and such as possible from both here, and at the BSC site. I have used my SC4 Tool program and it has shown me that certain dependancies are missing, however I have recently downloaded those ones that are listed...so I am thinking that the SC4 Tool is not recognising the updated packs....

Any help, of course, will be greatly appreciated....

Bruce (BEJA)

[CaptCity 4,861]

BEJA...

Your situation reminded me of a situation I had some time ago with a prop mysteriously disappearing after looking fine for a while. It seemed that as something was upgraded from $ to $$, or $$ to $$$, different sets of props became incorporated into the game. This appearantly was causing some conflicts with existing props and making things disappear as the newer, higher wealth props came into play. To be honest, I never did manage to narrow it done due the sporadic nature of the problem. Plus it was only affecting a single lot, so I just let it go. Your case seems to be much more serious. Have you installed anything that could be changing prop requirements as the game proceeds? Maybe any reward lots? (I ask those more knowledgeable than me... Does this even make sense?) Could be a place to start looking.

Oh...I was going to ask about the lot in the bottom of your pictures with the water fountain and the sidewalks. Is this what it is supposed to like, or is something missing there too? If something else is supposed to be on the lot, that could be a sign of prop conflict. Just a thought.

[BEJA 2]

Thanks, Capt....for your input: Since my last post I have discovered a couple Dependancey packs were missing and I have since re-installed them, and as of yesterday (Monday), those affected lots that I re-plopped, including the Vacation Resort have stayed intact. Regarding the park you see in the photo, yes you are right it too is missing some elements. It is the 'City Park' model.

What I will be doing today is re-developing Wesley. Any affected lots will be re-plopped and then I'll exit and enter the city to see if they also will stay intact. I'll post the results here for your interest.

Regarding the possible cause of conflicts you mentioned, that could very well be a cause, as I think I have been dealing with two or three issues in this city. Wesley has numerous Reward Lots, and Custom Lots....on the Custom Lots, some are growable and it seems that if they upgrade to a different Wealth level, that yes they may demand different props.

I find that anytime something strange like this happens to my game playing it gives rise to opportunities to learn more about the game, its behaviour, and interaction with the Computer System. This and the enormous help I get from citizens of Simtropolis, such as yourself, greatly enhances my gaming experience.....

Thanks so much, and like I said, I'll post my findings here in the next couple of days.

BEJA (Bruce)

[CaptCity 4,861]

BEJA...

Glad to hear things are progressing for you. I asked about the park lot because it looked just like another issue I had been having. It turned out I had some park and/or flora lots [ Never met any of those I didn't like. ] conflicting with each other. After cleaning out some I could do without and making sure things were loading in the correct order, things were good. Just another 2 cents for consideration. Good luck with 'Wesley'.

[BEJA 2]

You know, I never thought of that, Capt....and I have lots of parks and flora lots in my Plugins Folder, so I'll keep an eye out for that. I have just finished redeveloping some of the areas, and tomorrow I'll re-design the Campground & Lake....and then I'll look in some of my other cities to see if the same lots are doing the same things, which should tell us if a conflict is occurring.

BEJA

[BEJA 2]

You know, I never thought of that, Capt....and I have lots of parks and flora lots in my Plugins Folder, so I'll keep an eye out for that. I have just finished redeveloping some of the areas, and tomorrow I'll re-design the Campground & Lake....and then I'll look in some of my other cities to see if the same lots are doing the same things, which should tell us if a conflict is occurring.

BEJA

[BEJA 2]

...So it is Friday evening from where I reside, and I am busy scrapping egg off my face, as half of this mystery regarding the lots missing something was actually my graphics settings! So I'm sorry, especially to Capt....what made me clue in is the amount of lots that seemed to be missing something, and the something always looked like textures, and I know I have all my textures....so upon loading up the game this morning, prior to going to work, I noticed that a couple of my graphic settings were at medium and not high....changed that and lo & behold all is well in Wesley!

I will now take the rest of the egg off my face....

Cheers Everyone:

Bruce

[CaptCity 4,861]

Well... I guess, as human beings, we like to make things more complcated than need be. I know I've been guilty of that many times. So, I'll share some of your egg... . Glad all is well in Wesley.

CC

[BEJA 2]

Hey Capt!  Thanks for the understanding.....

  The possible conflict that you described regarding parks....I'll certainly keep an eye on that one, and thanks to you, I'll know what to do.

 BEJA