"Post pictures of LA"

[j2dap 0]

Originally posted by: dOwntOwnbUzz

Originally posted by: j2dap dOwntOwnbUzz: omg..... dude SAn jOSE was declared one of the safest cities and fresno what the hell!! And no east LA is not the worst part it is south central and compton but if u think about it every part of LA is bad

mayorron: orange county riverside county san bernadino county LA county they all belong to the major region of LA and they are vicinities

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wrong, orange county is south of LA and Ventura county is north of LA, LA has no relation with Orange, i lived in orange i have a map book if you don't believe mequote>

 

homie u have a map ok i have a map to ..that shows every city in the usa and on the LA page why is orange county and riverside and other cities on the out skirts are there.... there should be a differnt page for it so it means that all those cities  belong to LA maybe not the same area or county but the they belong to LA just like brooklyn belongs to new york city just like Oakland belongs to SAn Fran i live in long beach even tho its not the same area as LA i still consider long beach a part of LA

[mayorron 0]

No brooklyn is not a city, i believe it is a borough, so it will obviously be part of NYC.

That is best example, of one area being part of another, because well, it really is a "district" of new york.

Those cities in the outskirts I believe, if they are part of LA.. hmmm. Anaheim, Los Angeles, CA? just like Brooklyn, New York City, NY?

Well, bad example maybe. Because I don't believe that Anaheim, has the same mayor as Los Angeles, and Anaheim has its own City Hall.

Its just a map, its just a map that shows the area around Los Angeles.

But if those cities around are part of LA, why just don't they call themselves as Los Angeles.

A County is different from a City.

And here we're talking about Los Angeles, the City. "City of Angels?"

Let's say that a city around LA is a suburban city.. Does it mean that it is a part of the city of LA? or it is LA? no, it has its own mayor, councilor, whatever, blah blah blah. It has its own budget, blah blah blah. Sometimes, it even has sister cities of its own.

The area around Los Angeles, is not Los Angeles. Otherwise, why not call the whole SoCal ... LA.

Anyway, that is just a rambling opinion from me.

But anyway, I believe that Los Angeles is just Los Angeles, and let's say Pasadena, is Pasadena, not LA / nor a part of LA. maybe LA County, but not LA.

Peace.. Don't hate me. again. haha.

[Stuckinsuburbia4 0]

--------- Counties in the Southland

Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana Metropolitan Area

Los Angeles County

Orange County

Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario Metropolitan Area

Riverside County

San Bernardino County

Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura Metropolitan Area

Ventura County

------ Regions of the Southland

Antelope Valley

Conejo Valley

Crescenta Valley

East Los Angeles (also known as the 'Eastside')

Gateway Cities

Inland Empire

Orange County

Oxnard Plain

San Fernando Valley

San Gabriel Valley

Santa Clarita Valley

South Bay

South Los Angeles (formerly known as 'South Central')

West Los Angeles (also known as the 'Westside')

----------Principal Cities of the Southland

Altadena

*Anaheim*

Arcadia

Burbank (Airport: Bob Hope Airport)

Camarillo

Carson

Cerritos

Chino

Colton

Compton

Costa Mesa

Fountain Valley

Fullerton

Gardena

Glendale

Hemet

Irvine

Long Beach (Airport: Long Beach Municipal Airport)

Los Angeles (Major Airport: Los Angeles International Airport) (County Seat of Los Angeles County)

Montebello

Monterey Park

Newport Beach

Ontario (Major Airport: Ontario International Airport)

Orange

Oxnard (Airport: Oxnard Airport)

Palmdale (Airport Palmdale Regional Airport)

Paramount

Pasadena

Pomona

Redlands

Riverside (Airport: Riverside Executive Municipal) (County Seat of Riverside County)

San Bernardino (Airport: San Bernardino International Airport) (County Seat of San Bernardino County)

Santa Ana (Major Airport: John Wayne-Orange County Airport) (County Seat of Orange County)

Santa Monica

Temecula

Thousand Oaks

Torrance

Tustin

Ventura (County Seat of Ventura County)

Victorville

[edit] Other suburbs with more than 100,000 inhabitants

Corona

Downey

East Los Angeles

El Monte

Fontana

Garden Grove

Huntington Beach

Inglewood

Lancaster

Moreno Valley

Norwalk

Rancho Cucamonga

Santa Clarita

Simi Valley

South Gate

West Covina

[Stuckinsuburbia4 0]

Anahiem is its own city, and is in another county, but its still considered to be part of the L.A. metro area or commonly known as "The Southland."

[dOwntOwnbUzz 0]

ok fine i'll try, Los Angeles is inside of Los Angeles Country as Orange is inside of Orange county, counties are larger than cities, Los Angels is a city that is in Los Angeles county, as so is Hollywood, Westwood, Century City, and i don't want to name them all

Anaheim is inside of Orange Country, as so is Orange, Villa Park, Laguna, Mission Viejo, and so many i don't want to name them all... so the answer to the question of a few posts:
Anaheim and Orange are not in Los Angeles
read it and weap to those who think im wrong

[mayorron 0]

Originally posted by: dOwntOwnbUzz

ok fine i'll try, Los Angeles is inside of Los Angeles Country as Orange is inside of Orange county, counties are larger than cities, Los Angels is a city that is in Los Angeles county, as so is Hollywood, Westwood, Century City, and i don't want to name them all

Anaheim is inside of Orange Country, as so is Orange, Villa Park, Laguna, Mission Viejo, and so many i don't want to name them all... so the answer to the question of a few posts:

Anaheim and Orange are not in Los Angeles

read it and weap to those who think im wrong

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Thank you brother!

[dOwntOwnbUzz 0]

finally!

an agreement

[Amavel 0]

Now that we all grasp the geographical (cultural, political, whatever) differences among the city of Los Angeles, the County of Los Angeles and the County of Orange, we must note that initially Orange, Riverside, and San Bernadino counties were considered principially as suburbs of Los Angeles (or San Diego)-- if not simply because LA was the principal economic and cultural center of the region.  It is quite obvious now that such is not necessarily the case. Orange County has quite a thriving economy of its own and is slowly but surely developing more cultural attractions (Segerstrom Concert Hall, for example) of its own. Someone could even argue that because of the amount of jobs and attractions in OC that Riverside is now more of a bedroom community to OC than to LA.

Anyways, L.A. is the most populous (and somewhat most central) city in the concentrated Southland, hence the title L.A. metro area. Plus, they don't call it "living behind the Orange Curtain" for nothing; life is completely different in OC.

[j2dap 0]

dOwntOwnbUzz: I didnt say orange county is in LA i said it is part of LA and LA wouldnt be the city it is without this other cities and i think not sure but riverside,orange,anaheim etc.... are counted and added on to LA's pop.. because theres no way that 4 million people live in LA

mayorron: well i didnt get ur last post but all i know that if i go to orange county or riverside or any other area even tho its not LA ill still think that it is a part of the LA region and a connection LA to me LA and every other city around it are pretty much the same sorry but that what i think and thats what im going to keep thinking

but how about we change the subject

[Amavel 0]

No, the populations of seperate counties are not included in the population count of Los Angeles County, let alone the city of Los Angeles. There are, in fact, 4 million residents within LA proper. And, yes, there are upwards of ten million residents in LA County. Believe it or not, in all of the Southland (LA, Ventura, SB, Riverside, Orange, SD, Imperial counties), there are over 20,700,000 residents... or about 2/3 of the state's population in probably less than half of the state's area.

[mayorron 0]

Mayorron here, changing the subject... how much does a dodger dog cost? still $7?

[dOwntOwnbUzz 0]

yeah i think so... and about $4 for a bottle of water

[j2dap 0]

Amavel: thats amazing 20 million people all together how about new york

and are u guys talkin abot prices at dodger stadium??

[Shpigglewog 0]

I've lived in LA for the past year and a half now (I go to school at USC) and I'm sorry but... I ~language~ HATE it! I've even been considering transfering to a different college because of how hard this city is to live in. It takes like 2h to get anywhere not within the immediate vincity on the public buses (though I respect that the MTA does the best with what they have), and you can't drive anywhere without a headache either because the traffic is INSANE. I'd heard horror stories about LA traffic before coming here, and thought they were all exaggeration, but.... really. You can hop on the 110 at some random odd hour in the middle of the day, and still be stopped for an hour by bumper-to-bumper traffic. And lastly, transport aside, it's simply unpleasant to live in (or maybe I've been spoiled by San Diego, my hometown). There are hardly any parks, and the few that there are, are all ratty and ill-kept. Also, apart from a few select areas in Westwood & Santa Monica, the streets are just endless strings of strip malls & are bland to walk around in.  ...and, finally, the whole city has this kind of cold, isolating feel to it... like the feel that was portrayed in "Crash" & "Collateral."  As for the Metro Rail... sorry but four scattered, poorly connected lines in a city this big does not a rail system make.  Maybe it'll grow to be excellent 20 years from now, but it's a joke in it's present state.  Even San Diego has more of a functioning rail network than LA.

I wish I lived in Europe :-\

/end rant

Harumf.

[asielen 0]

Los Angeles is a city that really takes time to get used to. To enjoy LA you really have to look past LA proper and take into consideration most of the Southland. The city of LA itself is not known to attract major businesses, mainly because of the high costs. And even Hollywood is losing business to places that are cheaper to film at. However, LA can be quiet an experience. I have lived in LA county all my life, and until it took me most of my life to get used to it. Now that I am, I wouldn't want to live anywhere else, and I have been all over the US and the world.

I can see why people coming from pretty much everywhere else wouldn't like it. It does seem like a mess. Traffic is pretty bad at all times of day. However, if you learn the area enough, it is easy to get around. Taking standard routes can take you a couple hours to go 20 miles. But there are better ways to do things, and that time can be reduced to 20 mins. Southern California is one of the most diverse places in the world. You can literally go surfing in the morning, snow boarding in the afternoon, and then go enjoy the nightlife in one of many areas.

LA may not be that great of a city on its own, but all the areas close by make it worth while. In LA county you can go to: Hollywood (Broadway quality musicals, movie premieres) ; West Hollywood (completely different area) (great concerts, night life); Malibu, Santa Monica, Venice etc..(wonderful beaches); Beverly Hills (Rodeo D); Pasadena (Rose Bowl, Rose Parade); Long Beach (Grand Prix, Queen Mary); Westwood (UCLA, shopping). LA has the Dodgers, Kings, Lakers, Clippers, and also USC Trojans, and UCLA Bruins. It is home of E3, LA Auto show, many award shows. You can go see TV shows filmed for free, and it is a very common sight to see movies being filmed in the area. Orange County is also very close, which has many other great attractions. There is so much to do in the area yet most people don't realize it because they can't get past the many flaws.

If you like never running out of things to do and are patient enough to deal with traffic, then LA is great.

[mayorron 0]

I agree with asielen.

I myself don't want to live around LA ever again. But, like he/she said, Los Angeles is a city that really takes time to get used to. That city has many flaws, and I mean many. Traffic, Crime, Cost of Living, The "All that and a bag of chips" atmosphere (c'mon admit it, everyone that lived around LA for a long time knows that) and much more. It can really be a pain, but well, every city has flaws. The thing is if you're around your mid 30's and above, you can't enjoy that city anymore. You want to go somewhere affordable and peaceful, and boy admit that LA doesn't belong in that criteria.

LA is the city for the young generation -- alcohol, bars, party, beaches, bonfires, and etc. The whole world knows it. But Somewhere out there is a city that suits all ages, all generations, and all races. (I ain't even gonna mention it) haha.

[SpecialEddie 3]

Transportation sucks!

[GQBouncer05 0]

If you combined the skylines of Century City, DTLA, Mid Wilshire, Westwood, Warner Center, and LAX, which are all just different parts of Los Angeles, those buildings along would make DTLA very dense like NY but LA couldn't do that because of the city size, having all the commerical highrises in DTLA would make a commuter from the OC Venture San Bern County or North or East Los Angeles County go crazy that would cause way too much traffic, i don't even believe that mass transit would be able to support that.

[mayorron 0]

Well, if you combine all those buildings into one are such as Downtown, it still wouldn't be as dense as New York City. Downtown LA with all the "skylines" combined would only be like lower Manhattan.

New York has a pretty good transportation system. It is a very dense city, but they're management and judgement made transportation easier for all commuters. Taxi Cabs and Subways, They have a pretty long and pretzels of subway lines, but I guess its working fine.

I just hope that there will be no earthquake hitting Los Angeles, because that would be a devastating catastrophe. We all know that SoCal is one of the most earthquake prone area in the US. But that's what makes LA unique when it comes to their Downtown.

[JDRCRASH 53]

@J2Dap: Greater NY: Pop. 25,000,000 @GQbouncer:The problem with Los Angeles is that it doesn't have an good Mass Transit system AT ALL. But according to one of my friends who works for the MTA, that could change. He says that the Villaragoisa's vision of the Wilshire Red Line Subway to the Sea could relieve a ton of traffic cuz Wilshire Blvd is one of the busiest major streets in the city. Also the Green Line LAX extension could reduce to the commute for air travelers. And the Gold Line extension into the San Gabriel Valley-which carries some of the worst traffic in the county-, as well as into East L.A. would greatly decrease the traffic on the 5 and 10 freeways There was even a while back a Monorail "Purple Line" Proposal from business leaders that would go above Wilshire Blvd. But thats only if the subway idea doesn't go through the city council. @mayorron: Not quite, DT L.A. would be the size of Midtown Manhatten, because you would have to include Universal City, Burbank, as well as Long Beach and even in some ways Santa Monica, which is also building alot of condos.

[raul39 0]

Originally posted by: JDRCRASH @J2Dap: Greater NY: Pop. 25,000,000 @GQbouncer:The problem with Los Angeles is that it doesn't have an good Mass Transit system AT ALL. But according to one of my friends who works for the MTA, that could change. He says that the Villaragoisa's vision of the Wilshire Red Line Subway to the Sea could relieve a ton of traffic cuz Wilshire Blvd is one of the busiest major streets in the city. Also the Green Line LAX extension could reduce to the commute for air travelers. And the Gold Line extension into the San Gabriel Valley-which carries some of the worst traffic in the county-, as well as into East L.A. would greatly decrease the traffic on the 5 and 10 freeways There was even a while back a Monorail "Purple Line" Proposal from business leaders that would go above Wilshire Blvd. But thats only if the subway idea doesn't go through the city council. @mayorron: Not quite, DT L.A. would be the size of Midtown Manhatten, because you would have to include Universal City, Burbank, as well as Long Beach and even in some ways Santa Monica, which is also building alot of condos.quote>

 

yea, I've heard of this too. But let's be realistic here. does LA have the money for this? I dont think so. The freeways are the major mode of transportation in LA and they cant even keep those up to top notch. It's noy like if they can higher taxes or something cause theyre already extremly high. A small 2,000 sq ft home there costs at least 400 grand.

[mayorron 0]

Hey, Hey, Hey.. Santa Monica is a different city, so as Long Beach. Ok, let's talk about cities here not the Los Angeles Area. The city of Los Angeles is approximately 498.3 sq mi... That's it! 498.3 sq mi. Don't add the others, because Los Angeles doesn't "own" it. I don't care about areas, I'm talking about the city itself. So yea.

Peace.

[JDRCRASH 53]

@Raul39: Well....that new $20 billion in funding for transportation across the state should help! Have the money for that?? (sigh)I don't believe this...... What lies have East Coasters been tellin' all you guys?! Dude L.A. is worth trillions of dollars with a T worth of money The thing that is keeping us from developing a cool transit system is the %#@$'n TIRE COMPANIES!!!! @mayyoron: Well, either way we're getting more denser than people think ;-)

[mayorron 0]

Hold on, Why does people want LA to get denser? why? Actually people are getting out of "dense areas".. They don't want to live there. Hold on, take this one as an example.. I'm going to provide you guys a five-seater car.. Do you guys actually want to put 9 people in it? No of course, those extra 4 would want the get the hell out of that car. Or another example is, a five-seater car right? and there's only a 4 in that car, do we actually want to put another one? sometimes yes, sometimes no, we'd like a car that has more leg room. But putting in another passenger wouldn't hurt, but putting in another one would make you want to curse.

In a city like Los Angeles where traffic is so "complicated." Nobody wants LA to get more dense than what it is right now. Being dense doesn't define a better city.

Peace..

[raul39 0]

JDRCRASH: Holy Crap! where did they get 20 billion bucks!? I heard something like that, but I thought it wouldn't happen! BTW, I live on the west and used to live in LA, but I got tired of the problems and TRAFFIC, so I went to the central coast. So, no, east coasters dont influence me.

mayorron: I agree with you. Why else would people want to move out to IE or OC? Because it's not as dense. LA isn't even that dense anyway!

[SpecialEddie 3]

Hey it's me again!

Alongside the discussion, people are now welcome to post any pictures they find of Los Angeles.

You can still discuss LA, btw. Just post pictures. 

But that's not required. 

Ok. 

I live in Orange County.   

[jaimeblt 0]

A quick note: LA's density is on par with London's. The numbers change depending on how you jigger them (metro area vs. LA county vs. the city proper vs. built land), but LA is pretty dense. It's just that the built environment is different - more low-slung (in general) and more auto-centric.

[SpecialEddie 3]

Originally posted by: jaimeblt A quick note: LA's density is on par with London's. The numbers change depending on how you jigger them (metro area vs. LA county vs. the city proper vs. built land), but LA is pretty dense. It's just that the built environment is different - more low-slung (in general) and more auto-centric.quote>

 

True, but LA is still pretty spacious (about 10,000 people per square mile), compared to such cities as San Francisco and New York (50,000+ per m2)

[GQBouncer05 0]

Originally posted by: Shpigglewog I've lived in LA for the past year and a half now (I go to school at USC) and I'm sorry but... I ~language~ HATE it! I've even been considering transfering to a different college because of how hard this city is to live in. It takes like 2h to get anywhere not within the immediate vincity on the public buses (though I respect that the MTA does the best with what they have), and you can't drive anywhere without a headache either because the traffic is INSANE. I'd heard horror stories about LA traffic before coming here, and thought they were all exaggeration, but.... really. You can hop on the 110 at some random odd hour in the middle of the day, and still be stopped for an hour by bumper-to-bumper traffic. And lastly, transport aside, it's simply unpleasant to live in (or maybe I've been spoiled by San Diego, my hometown). There are hardly any parks, and the few that there are, are all ratty and ill-kept. Also, apart from a few select areas in Westwood & Santa Monica, the streets are just endless strings of strip malls & are bland to walk around in.  ...and, finally, the whole city has this kind of cold, isolating feel to it... like the feel that was portrayed in "Crash" & "Collateral."  As for the Metro Rail... sorry but four scattered, poorly connected lines in a city this big does not a rail system make.  Maybe it'll grow to be excellent 20 years from now, but it's a joke in it's present state.  Even San Diego has more of a functioning rail network than LA.

I wish I lived in Europe :-\

/end rant

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You should go back then becasue your just one less car on the freeway

and 

Umm...actually Anaheim is a Suburb to LA as well as the whole OC, hence the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim and the same was for the rams,  Many OC resident commute to LA.  There isn't enough offices in the OC to house its residents and therefore depends on LA making it a suburb of Los Angeles like the many other surrounding counties.   The OC only got established becasue of LA for people who had a family and didn't want to live in the city.  Without LA there wouldn't be an OC, and if something were to happen to LA it would effect the OC, I would say the only way the OC was to be known as its own entity is if the OC was strong enough to stand alone if something were to happen to LA's economy which i don't believe they could.   Sorry...

[GQBouncer05 0]

Originally posted by: mayorron Hold on, Why does people want LA to get denser? why? Actually people are getting out of "dense areas".. They don't want to live there. Hold on, take this one as an example.. I'm going to provide you guys a five-seater car.. Do you guys actually want to put 9 people in it? No of course, those extra 4 would want the get the hell out of that car. Or another example is, a five-seater car right? and there's only a 4 in that car, do we actually want to put another one? sometimes yes, sometimes no, we'd like a car that has more leg room. But putting in another passenger wouldn't hurt, but putting in another one would make you want to curse.

In a city like Los Angeles where traffic is so "complicated." Nobody wants LA to get more dense than what it is right now. Being dense doesn't define a better city.

Peace..quote>

 

i agree as well, but for the many ppl that complain about LA, they don't want leave it and im sorry about the previous post if that sound harsh but i just hear a lot of complaints but then i still see the same amount of traffic, like ppl say all these bad things about LA then move here then complain about things they already knew were here so if the complainers went ahead and packed there bags we wouldn't have that much traffic becasuse i hear a lot of complainers.  And as for the density i agree as well because that means more traffic, LA is becoming denser by the minute, many ppl are moving downtown, im sure u guys have heard they're building the tallest residential towers in the country if im not mistaken, two twin towers along with many other towers in downtown along.  They've also started building full on communities such as Playa Vista (Playavista.com) which is an uncor. area of LA.  Its like they built a city in a matter of a year and half, and all the lofts and apts are sold out ,same as in Marina Del Rey they are tearing down like four blocks of random warehouses and building lofts, its called the Marina Del Rey Loft District so ppl movin in by the handfull.   As for Metro Lines.  THe East LA line is underconstruction, the Westside/Wilshire line is next in 2009,  and then the the Expo Line whcih goes to culver city, and I hear they're in the process of getting approvals to extend the Wilshire line all the way to Ocean Blvd in Santa Monica