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Its great to see the determination, the care, and indeed the talent that you are putting into making this map. As soon as you get it perfected the way you want it - upload it to the STEX - this is gonna be a good map

I have learned from helping others with this prob that its got a lot to do with the specifications on yer PC - there are some graphic cards that just do not show the rendering properly, and if yer rendering a BIG map - you need at LEAST 512Mb of RAM, and a reasonably fast processor ie faster than 1Ghz. I know this is not gonna help really with the problem, but its something to bear in mind. edit - and when rendering a map - DISABLE YOUR SCREENSAVER - because if it kicks in, it will invariably mess up the render and you will have to start all over again - thats something I learned to my annoyance when rendering my very first map !!!!

Rochefort You are not asking stupid questions - and you are not the only person who is not a PC expert - there are relatively very few of them on ST lol Unfortunately, this IS no way to upload to the STEX a completely terraformed region. The maps on the STEX are simply greyscale images which SC4 interperets as different levels of terrain relevant to shade - White being high mountains and black between very deep water, plus of course every shade in between

oblig I thought that might be the case - but even if you could read it, there could easily be over 100 of them in a large region - to reconstruct a greyscale region from individual pieces, city by city, would take forever lol

tc - yer right on some things but wrong on others mate - sea level is actually around 69 and not 50 as you might expect the other figures I believe refer to the RGB values - being 1 to 255 on red green and blue Taking an overhead view of a region is not defined enough to get a greyscale image from, and even if you do it that way - the game renders GREYSCALE and not colour images - the work involved in ACCURATELY converting colour pics to playable greyscale is tedious to say the least - take a look at the 2 dollar bill map - no effort made whatsoever to convert colour image to playable greyscale Edit - I emphasise the word PLAYABLE greyscale when converting from a colour image - of course almost any paint prog will convert a colour image to greyscale - but the shades will usually be all wrong, and unsuitable for a PLAYABLE map, and I'm sorry to keep ranting about it but the 2 dollar bill map is a classic example as is the stray cats map - OR WHATEVER ITS CALLED

I am by no means the expert tc (without capitols heheheh) When you render a downloaded map, the game uses the greyscale to interperet the shades and make the terrain relevant to the shade. Once you start terraforming a region it saves back the info - you therefore have CHANGED the original greyscale. In my limited understanding of the mechanics of the game the changed formatting of the region is saved back in the region folder in some form of coding, it does not redraw the greyscale in the common sense. That being the case there is no altered greyscale image which could be uploaded to the STEX If you examine the region folders that come with the game you will see that there is no greyscale image contained in the folders - the region is somehow coded within the programming edit - woah that greyscale index is excellent - just what I have been looking for !!!! THANKYOU 10/10 and 2 thumbs up lol

CJAH roflmao - yer my kinda guy buddy !!! You don't pull any punches - you speak yer mind - which is much more preferable to the mamby pamby wimps on here who aint got the guts to open thier mouths and say what they REALLY think !!!! And more often than not - those that DO make harsh comments as safe sitting behind thier computer screen that DADDY bought for them roflmao - sorry people but I left primary school a long long time ago - but this is bringing back memories of pulling pigtails in the school yard - ah happy days Oh and btw Cjah - I wouldnt have a clue where to start making a BAT, or a lot, or a mod, or a texture - and according to some I aint much good at making maps either - I must have dreamed the 6703 downloads in just over 2 months with an average download rate of 1 in 2.74 ............................... Thats pretty damn good for a NEWB !!!!!!! I may be old enough to remember the 60's buddy - but I am still a NEWB here - so that throws your arguement straight out the window !!!!

Screamingman Sorry but I have to comment on your post - the 2 dollar bill map was not MADE in the creative sense by that user - dya think he sat down and hand drew it ?????????? NO of course he didnt - he scanned a damn picture - used a paint prog to greyscale it and uploaded it !!!! Where the hell is the skill or talent in that !!!! And if its that damn good why didnt you download it and play on it ???? You contradicted yerself buddy !! Barbie - I love your analogic metaphor - dunno if Shakespeare himself would agree with you though !! LOL

But yeah, crap is crap. I'm glad there are people out there who step up and say whether or not it is. And I didnt even have to pay sparky to agree with me ........ Amen to that Sparky - and while crap is uploaded I will CONTINUE to call it crap ....................... You CANNOT teach a dyslexic chimpanzee how to perform differential Calculus - and neither can you teach a talentless cretin how to make a good BAT, map, Lot, or whatever .........

*Takes off Prima Donna hat and replaces it with another* That was a very articulate telling off chaos ............. and accepted :-) You are perfectly right of course, but I am not so much of a Prima Donna as you may think - I just despair at seeing such outragious rubbish on the STEX - and YES OK - that INCLUDES some of mine !!!

Trulsismann -What I think you are trying to do is turn a terraformed region back into a map - is that correct ?? Sorry to tell you but that cannot be done :-( if this is not the case - can you be more specific with what you mean by I have created some maps - how did you create these maps in the first place ? BONES - in photoshop - on a greyscale of 1 to 100, sea level is around 69 and not 50 as you would perhaps expect - and it certainly looks as though the terrain mod is upping all the elevations

Rochefort Despite what some may say or think about me, I do actually agree with your comment about not frightening off young hopefulls with disparaging comments - but the point I am trying to make is that a person either has talent or they do not. Again - in total contradiction to the likes of tc's comment about me - I would be the first to admit that there are mapmakers around ST that are CONSIDERABLY better than me - Blade for instance, Mallow the Cloud also of course - but he has dissapeared it seems. There are some highly talented people in this community, but what some dont seem to accept is that there are also young FOOLS who upload with absolutely no regard for quality. As I have said earlier in this thread - garbage is garbage - and is most certainly NOT judged on MY opinion alone. I simply post what many others only think. I feel the biggest problem with this community is the fact that there are too many Prima Donnas (albeit talented Prima Donnas), and also an influx recently of rebellious youngsters who upload garbage just for the sheer hell of it. I applaud the notion that there should be some kind of vetting process on all files to the STEX - but as some have said, who can perform that service ?? If it were to be members then we again would have the Prima Donnas refusing files that do not reach THIER standards, or appeal to thier tastes

Dont hear you complaining TC ???? Rolls on the floor in fits of Laughter You cried like a baby when in chat I used capitols on yer name !!!!! OOOOO Look he used capitols where there are no capitols !!! roflmao - you my insignificant little friend are a very precocious youngster - and you are not the only one ............. I really dont care what you think of my maps - or of me as a person, but while several of my maps are averaging download rates better than 1 in 2 - I will keep on making them .... and for your information - Babba the australian kangaroo was exposed as a FRAUD - he did NOT create a map - he COPIED the screenshot of somebody elses work - the greyscale he put up with it did NOT match the screenshot Finally - I generally judge my comments on the download rates that a file achieves - I simply have the guts to post what others only THINK !!!!