---------------- On 10/20/2003 2:18:11 AM Shoe wrote: New Urbanism basically boils donw to this: Instead of having suburban sprawl, you have small neighborhoods with residential, schools, commercial, etc. So not everyone has to have a huge commute to work.---------------- I haven't heard of 'New Urbanism', but this is usually what I do anyways. My communities aren't too secluded, but they each have their own schools, clinics, and commercial areas. Some also have seperate small manufacturing or hi-tech zones. The only problem with this is all the wierd stuff in SimCity's coding that forces residents to travel to the furthest possible job they can find instead of the one sitting on their front lawn. Still, in the city I'm currently working on (just less than 10,000 pop), the average commute time is about 32 minutes, even with mostly low-capacity streets running throught the communities.