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Can I move my SC4 stuff to a different computer? Like everything... Files, Mods, Plugins, Regions, Cities, everything needs transferred to a different computer. Is this possible? And if so, how?

Thanks a lot coug. And thanks to everyone else who has enjoyed this CJ.. I really like how it's turning out, and I've been gaining a TON of experience just by playing this region... I don't plan on remaking anything until I fill out the entire region, but who knows.. by the time I get to Ann Arbor.. My experience might be good enough to not have to go back and remake anything! It will be super long before that happens.. But I'm sticking with my promise that it will happen! Lets just hope my computer doesn't crash all together with this huge region and all the plugins I've downloaded.. I've had my computer randomly shut off on me a few times when I've had to use the Hard Drive for a while... so I'm going to the technical section on this forum to see what I can do.. I'm also in a computer app's class this semester as well and my professor is teaching us how to put in RAM.. I've never really been geeked for the technical things of a computer.. but I might just so I can finish the region with no permanent damage to my computer. Why am I SOO obsessed with Detroit???? I will never know. =P

Update is coming soon everyone, it will only be a region view of what I've got so far.

region view please?

That's my home town! So yeah I'm definitely gonna work hard on it. Excellent! What part of FH? I'm from 13 and Farmington. I lived in two neighborhoods actually, a town house complex right next to the beautiful I-275, I-696, M-5, and I-96 interchange.... or you could say near Halsted and 11 Mile. The second one was near Middlebelt and 9 Mile. I kind of had a feeling that I would be in familiar territory for many simtropolians, including me. :D Cool, I've golfed quite a few times at the public course near 11 and Halsted. It sounds like you are no longer living in Farmington Hills? Nope. LONG gone. I've been back several times, but I haven't lived there sense 2002. I miss the place like crazy though. I also couldn't tell you why. It's just home to me I guess. lol.

That's my home town! So yeah I'm definitely gonna work hard on it. Excellent! What part of FH? I'm from 13 and Farmington. I lived in two neighborhoods actually, a town house complex right next to the beautiful I-275, I-696, M-5, and I-96 interchange.... or you could say near Halsted and 11 Mile. The second one was near Middlebelt and 9 Mile. I kind of had a feeling that I would be in familiar territory for many simtropolians, including me. :D

That's my home town! So yeah I'm definitely gonna work hard on it.

This is really cool!

@Jacob Eminem forever man. @IL "Good as always!" Why thanks! Oak Park Oak Park had its first settlers in the area around 1840. It was first a part of Royal Oak Township. The area was sparsely populated for many decades after. Housing first started to boom in 1914, and Oak Park was incorporated as a city in 1945. It was once one of America's fastest growing cities, as well as many many many other Detroit Suburbs during that time. Population in 1950 was 5,267, and in 1960 it jumped over 500% to 36,632. The peak population was just a little bit over that in the 1970 census. In 2010, the population was 29,319. In 2002 and 2004, Oak Park annexed several neighborhoods of Royal Oak. Here is an intersection in Oak Park, 9 Mile Road and Coolidge Highway: (I did not plop any of the buildings you see.) Southfield: I will be featuring only a south-eastern part of Southfield, but this part is a part of Southfield's commercial center in which it is known for. Southfield's motto is "The Center of It All", as it kind of is geographically in the middle of the Detroit Metro. The land was surveyed in 1817 by Lewis Cass, and then in 1823, Southfield saw it's first settlers. It was first known as Ossewa in 1830, but was changed to Southfield seventeen days later, named after the "south fields" of Bloomington Township. The area stayed as Southfield Township for a while. During the 1950's, small villages began to develop in the township, such as Lathrup Village and Beverly Hills. The area that was left of the township become incorporated as the city of Southfield in 1958. Southfield has over 27 million square feet of office space. (I'm not sure how much office space Downtown Detroit has, but wiki says that Southfield surpasses Downtown Detroit. We all know wiki is not always right, but It might be true.) Southfield's peak population is 78,322 in 2000, in 2010 it was 71,758. Here is 9 Mile and Greenfield, and the tall office buildings you see are in there accurate places, and so is the hospital and apartment complexes: Here is Northland Shopping center, which you could also call a mall, located right by Greenfield, 8 Mile, and the Lodge Freeway. (Lodge Freeway is still a sunken freeway this far north, and I made 8 Mile into an elevated highway for an interchange with the Lodge.) I've seen some requests that people want to see certain areas, such as Palmer Woods, (A very wealthy section of Detroit for those who don't know,) That part is struggling to develop mansions in SC4, as someone else was curios on how the development process has been going. I'd say that growing mansions in the wealthy parts has been extremely difficult. I will show what I have so far of the Palmer Woods and Detroit Golf Club area:

Not to mention, SimCoug, but I've also downloaded the Traffic Simulator Configuration Tool, and have maxed out everything, so maybe that's helping me out as well. Without cheats, a close, to scale, recreation of any large US city would be impossible on SC4, if you zone everything on SC4 as it is in real life.

It's actually not giving me too many problems, for the most part. It's probably because I downloaded a commercial service job multiplier mod, which is obviously a cheat, but actually more realistic. Most major roads in the Detroit suburbs have small business' lined up on both sides, so some of the tiles I've filled out actually have more commercial jobs then residents. I haven't seen too much abandonment at all, except in some areas there are several "small" areas that I've seen abandonment. I just say that's more realistic, because it's Detroit. Also, Most of the tiles will have some kind of industrial district / park, or some kind of office complex. The most trouble that I see with this kind of thing is Grosse Pointe. Grosse Pointe is wealthy because it hasn't been ripped apart by an interstate highway, it's got a beautiful view of Lake St. Clair, and it's not near any industry or busy office complexes. In SC4, it might be impossible to have thousands of mansions in my Grosse Pointe tiles, because there aren't any employers in a near radius. That's mainly why I haven't filled out Grosse Pointe yet, because I don't know how it's going to work yet. (The lakes area of Oakland County might give me trouble as well when it comes to growing mansions.)

I've already got Palmer Woods, Sherwood Forest, Golf Club, and Indian Village done. I will feature every suburb of Detroit. But like I said, school and social life will be very time consuming.

I think he was talking about his cities he quit playing 1-2 years ago, and asking for advice so it doesn't happen again... NAM helps out commute times greatly. Yes, sims walk 6 tiles to a station. Just make sure that you zone several random blocks of commercial in your residential areas, or zone strips of commercial along the sides of the major roads. When you start out your cities, there will be a huge demand for Dirty Industry as well, so plan for that, and connect the industry zone or zones, with a highway, avenue, road, elevated rail, or whatever you feel like connecting the zones with. It shouldn't be too hard if you zone like that and have NAM. Also, try downloading NWM, (network widening mod) and SAM (street add-on mod) if you think your computer can handle it. Go to google and type in "NWM Sim City 4", and "SAM Sim City 4." I haven't checked if Simtropolis has these, I got them off of SC4devotion. You might need to register to the LEX on SC4devotion if you get them off of there.

Replies: @The187InDetroit No not yet. I started with Downtown Detroit, and I'm expanding the region in a circular pattern, with Downtown being the center. It will be a while before I get there, but I'll be showing a region view. @IL thanks a lot! @Packersfan I know right? Putting in the diagonals was the least fun part by far. Detroit's street angles are more at a 30 or 60 degree angle as well, so I only made the major roads go at that angle through the steps that you see in the region map. I did think about rotating the geography a little as when you do, both Detroit and Windsor appear to have straight north and south streets, and if I was only doing Detroit city, then I probably would of done that. Also, I will say that in suburban Detroit, the east-west, north-south roads don't run straight east and west. They have a 2 degree angle to them. That I AM going to rotate the geography sense 2 degrees is no big deal at all. I draw boxes with a 3.3x3.3 square mile measurement on google earth to help me know where to drag the streets, where neighborhoods go, where factories go, etc. That strategy has worked out great for me. @VivaPanda Thanks! I try @SimCoug Before I started this project, I browsed through the city journals on this forum and on the tab up top. I didn't see many people trying to duplicate real life cities, and when they did, they gave up after 5 updates, in which I'm guessing is due to their issue of "perfection." In my region, you won't see every street dead on accurate, and some major roads might be a little out of place, because I don't want to lose interest in the game by getting upset over "perfection." Overall, the region is turning out really nicely, and in the end, I think people would like to see a finished Detroit, Windsor, Ann Arbor region and if it looks good enough, they wouldn't care if 12 mile road is a little to far south in its path. History Lesson: I-96 is an interstate highway entirely inside the Michigan borders. It is also possibly one of Michigan's most traveled Interstates. It connects Detroit, Lansing, Grand Rapids, and Muskegon. In Detroit, you guessed it, it's called the Jeffries Freeway. It got the name from a former Detroit mayor, Edward Jeffries. The Jeffries Freeway is possibly the widest freeway in the Detroit area. In Inner city Detroit, it features a 14 lane wide freeway in some spots. 6 lanes for the express lanes, and 8 lanes for the local access lanes. Dividing the freeway between Express lanes and Local access lanes relieves congestion tremendously. In my SC4 version, there are 8 lanes for express and 6 lanes for local access, because it was easier for SC4 reasons. The first segment was open in 1970 and it connected I-94, and I-75. Many residents blame the Jeffries and other freeways in Detroit as reasons why the city's neighborhoods suffer severe abandonment, as the freeways allowed for quick transportation to the suburbs, which served as a factor in Detroit's white flight era. Many other major urban centers have had the same problem. My SC4 version of the Jeffries will look sloppy in some areas, as the neighbor connections with NWM and NAM are a pain to deal with but it can also be a beauty. The reason why I usually don't mess with the NAM 6, 8, and 10 lane highways is because of the neighbor connections, which I haven't found out how to do a smooth multi lane NAM highway neighbor connection, if it's possible. I've had to mess with the surrounding streets for some creative solutions, but it doesn't appear to be too off scale. You shouldn't be too disappointed in it unless you live around the area I'm showing, and if you do, my apologies. Here is... The one, the only, Jeffries Freeway: The Remarkable, Outstanding, SC4 NAM Neighbor Connections! The exit you see is with Greenfield road. The 7 lane NWM highway you see at the bottom is Plymouth Road. The massive interchange you see is Davison Avenue, also M-8 where the trunkline ends at the Jeffries. I think I got as close as anyone could to duplicating the actual interchange in SC4, and having a full interchange, meaning complete access to all directions from every set of lanes, and a south bound I-96 exit to Grand River Avenue. I took off the road signs so you can clearly see the art work I've created. If you're wondering why I didn't add concrete textures to the sunken highway, that's because the Jeffries features dead grass, landscaped trees, and garbage. The Jeffries also isn't a complete sunken highway compared to SC4 standards in terms of the 15m hole you have to dig so overpasses don't look like they've been through earthquake damage. In real life though, it is more of a sunken highway then it is a regular ground highway. Here is a region view of what I have so far. Hope you're satisfied: West Side: East Side: I want to thank everybody that has read my CJ and has enjoyed it. I never thought my region would look this good, and it can only look better from here. I also have the 8 mile trailer park developed. I'm a huge Eminem fan. But guess what. School is about to start for me. School comes first... Social life comes second... Free time comes third. Development will be slowing down quite a bit. Also, I'd rather warn you about extremely slow development on the region and end up not being as busy as I'm predicting... Than not warn you about extremely slow development and then not post any updates. So that means that I might post updates on a weekly basis, or it might mean that I post updates on a monthly basis. But guess what again. I'm not going away. This region IS going to get filled out! By... (looks at calendar) No set due date. Till next time, Harden.