AlemanXL

I'm another who is baffled as to why people who don't own and/or don't like a game continue to post about it. It makes no sense to waste your time on something you don't like. After initial release, yes, feel free to express your thoughtsand opinions, but over two months later. Why? MC aren't going to change things based on a few unhappy peoples moaning.

EDIT : Double post due to new page. Bah!

Joe2102001, that would be sludge Isn't the English language wonderfull? On topic, it's nice to know that it'll be worth changing the time of day to a later time. Currently it's very dull at night.

I don't see anyone backpeddling about anything? Why did they come here and not the others? I can't answer that, I can only speculate that it was because there was a large active population here based on a similar type of game. I said they are not exactly the same genre, not that they were different, purpose is to build a current day city. But one is a complex city simulation, and the other is a city builder with the gameplay and style coming from those games I mentioned earlier. So I don't see how it can be done right or wrong, they are what they are.

I agree soltangris, that it does hace more simulated features and still does have some connection to simcity, it has a more open ended sanbox style, you can't win on a map/level and then move onto the next, and this I'm glad off. My initial dissapointment was that the simulation was rather static, it doesn't change unless you change it, in SimCity the simulation can continue to change long after you've stopped interacting with it' Yes, Pharaoh, was most definitely my favourite amongs those games, it was great to watch as you built one of the great pyramids.

It's been mentioned many times CitiesXL <> SC4. In fact they're not exactly the same genre, Simcity is exactly that, a city simulation, CitiesXL is a city builder, not a simulation. City Builders - Caesar 1- IV Pharoah (The best in my opinion, and very similar to CXL with megastructures added) Emperor:Rise of the middle kingdom Children of the Nile ANNO series etc. etc. City Simulators - SimCity series. Next Gen City Builder - CitiesXL Next Gen City Simulator - ??????????? Once you realise it's more akin to Pharoah for example, with set maps, and limited resources that need to be kept in balance, trading what is available for what you need, large structures to be built, and so on, and not a city Simulation, you can go on and enjoy the game for what it is, a really rather good city builder (has it's problems, but all games do). Much more game than simulation. Is this one of the causes of players expectations not being met? Many were expecting a simulator, and were given a builder instead.

mrdazza, feel free to visit Ale City on Hyperion, although to be honest, it's not in the same league as many fantastic cities I've seen. But it's mine, and I am growing fond of it. I think starting a city journal has added to the fun and enjoyment of this game, for myself at least.

If they are planning on just raising the price, they would have just done so by now, but removing the longer term subs suggests the are looking at something else. They'll know how many units they sold, and after the first 2 months they'll have an idea of the percentage of people who are/have subscribed. With the backlash the game has received, I suspect the number of subscribers is not what they'd hoped for. They perhaps underestimated the number of people who would still want to play solo, but would appear willing to pay regularly for the extra content. So I still think that they are re-working the model, free2play with optional dlc, and if sensible continuiung subs, with free content, this would most likely increase the after sales income closer to the level they were hoping for. This is also perhaps why they haven't said anything (although it's no excuse), they are still working it out, they don't know exactly what they're going to do, so can't tell us what they are going to do. Don't they have a habit of going silent while they work things out fully, and then make announcements?

I'm guessing here, but does this not make sense ? - The majority of mmo's are free 2 play with dlc or micro transactions. Moving to this model solves a couple of they're problems and would possibly increase revenue. 1. The disilussioned solo plyers will be able to get the extra content, giving mc the equivalent of a sub payment from them. 2. Increased players on PO as it's now free, hopefully giving them and the game longer term survival. I am guessing here, but this seems like a logical solution, they've tried the monthly sub model, so the other option is free 2 play. Many solo players have expressed there wish to pay to download/unlock the extra content. So more happy players, and the equivalent of monthly payment from PO and solo players. So they have restricted PO sub offer to 1 month while they change over. hope I'm right.

Trying a little optimism, it is possible that whatever they are planning will happen within the next month, and to avoid problems with people taking out 2 and 3 month subs, they've removed them for the present. Could be a major change to the PO system *shrugs* , but it's all just speculation. And I think we can all agree that it's the lack of communication that's the real problem, things like this should be announced, preferably beforehand.

Originally posted by: Chiverito Is Monte Cristo Doing deals with Omnicorp!quote> Certainly seems that way This could be the straw that brakes the camels back. There have been a number of dissapointments with the release of this game, but trying to charge the same amount as a full-blown mmo is ridiculous, the only interaction is trade, chat and visiting other cities. For £4 a month it wasn't too bad, especially as there are/were promises of the game growing and expanding. The actual increase in real money is not a lot, it's the way it's been done that is the real cause of pain, no word, no warning, just take it or leave it Very sad. My sub lasts till Feb, let's see what happens before then.