Crazy No Job Zots

[uvapwns 1]

I recently downloaded a region from the STEX, and I've had the same problem every time. I'll build to about 3,000 residents, then place a water tower. I give a small section of the town water, mid-wealth condos and some mansions pop up. There is plenty of industry and commerce at the right wealth levels, and everything goes fine for a bit. Then, every high wealth home begins to get a no job zot. However, high wealth residential demand is high. I builldoze all of those lots, raise their taxes to %12, and let more mid-wealth and a couple high-wealth move in. Then no job zots appear by the dozen throughout the city. Then they disappear, coming up somewhere else again. I checked my jobs/pop graph, And there were enough jobs for every citizen to have one (which is not even necessary). Curious, I did a query, and all the houses with the zots had a Long commute time. Every other house said short. I have excellent transportation systems, (bus, elevated rail, ferry, all of which are being used), no congestion whatsoever, and NAM is downloaded. No other cities are connected. I've never had this problem before, but I've done everything the same. I had recently downloaded a large amount of plugins. I thought one might have a bug, but this problem started before I downloaded them. I noticed that this only happened on the map from the STEX, too. Any ideas?

Also, I checked the graph, and the demand for all commerce and industry is either negative or at zero, despite the supposed lack of jobs.

  Edited June 16, 2012 by uvapwns  

[Silur 3,297]

_{I think, there is no any reason connect Your problem with any map ...}

  Edited June 16, 2012 by Silur  

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

Sounds like pathing trouble. Get the extra cheats .dll (if you don't have it) and when this happens use the drawpaths command to see where the pathfinder thinks the routes are. This trace is discontinued by hidepaths. You may have set yourself up in such a way that the high-wealth folks can't get a reasonable path to their job.

What is the URL of the map? Does this happen if you open a city in a sandbox region?

[uvapwns 1]

I don't have that, I think I'll try it. I'm not having this problem on any map but this one.

I've had no job zots before, but his format (of my city layout) never fails me. The amount of zots is absolutely ridiculous. As a matter of fact, I built a city to 200,000 residents and filled it with stage 8 buildings; not one no job zot. The only mass transit I used there is buses. It was, however, on a different map. The city is also set up in a grid, like all my others.

  Edited June 16, 2012 by uvapwns  

[Silur 3,297]

Files bmp and jpeg can't do anything with Your game playing !!!

  Edited June 16, 2012 by Silur  

[DavidB_ 83]

I get these zots a lot and I still don't know why...

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

Rendering that map on another desktop right now ...

It just finished. Took about 15 minutes or so. Very nice. I grew up in Niagara Falls, Ontario and that's a pretty good map of the area. Too bad we can't have elevated water tables. That 200 ft. drop at the falls would be nice to have.

Now, if you will tell me which particular tile you are having this problem with, I will try to reproduce the events and see if I get the same abandonment problems.

Later: After looking at this map in detail, I put a rather acerbic comment on the STEX. This is not a map of Buffalo, NY, but most of the eastern and western Niagara Peninsula. IMHO, not worth having.

  Edited June 16, 2012 by A Nonny Moose  

[uvapwns 1]

I can paste a picture of it in a second, but I deleted the cities each time because they all seemed beyond repair. I'll try to recreate the layout for you.

I forgot to mention it earlier, but I had 3 CTD's when the problem was occuring.

  Edited June 17, 2012 by uvapwns  

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

I can paste a picture of it in a second, but I deleted the cities each time because they all seemed beyond repair. I'll try to recreate the layout for you.

I forgot to mention it earlier, but I had 3 CTD's when the problem was occurring.

Oh, better yet. Open your Exception Reports folder and then open the most recent .txt file in notepad.

Copy the first 20 lines only into your post. This will reveal a lot.

[uvapwns 1]

Where can I find those. I did a search, but only got reports for the sims 2. I'm kinda clueless with this...

[Ro-Bo 183]

>> \My Documents\SimCity 4\Exception Reports

[uvapwns 1]

Exception time: 06/17/2012, at 23:33:04.

Exception code: 0xC0000005 (-1073741819) ACCESS_VIOLATION.

Current thread ID: 1604 (0x00000644).

Version information:

Application/module path: C:\Program Files\Maxis\SimCity 4 Deluxe\Apps\SimCity 4.exe

Application/module version name: SimCity 4

Application/module version: 1.1.610.0

System version: Windows NT 5.1

System memory: 960 Megabytes total, 104 Megabytes free.

Exception module: C:\Program Files\Maxis\SimCity 4 Deluxe\Apps\SimCity 4.exe.

Exception address: 0x007eae03. Section:Offset: 0x01:0x003e3e03.

Registers

EAX: 00000000

EBX: 00ab6a00

ECX: 2a1f1414

EDX: 00ab6ce0

ESI: 2a1f1414

EDI: 00000000

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

Running an unfixed copy of Deluxe on a very small machine (1 GB memory) in XP. You need the updates from http://sc4devotion.c...orums/index.php. You may need to register. It is free.

Open the page and scroll down to the suggestions panel on the left.

There is an EA support button. Click it. Accept the agreement, then on the next page choose the EP1 update to 1,1,638, download and save it on your desktop.

Open the BAT page, and scroll down past the description to the "Getting more ...". Pick up this patch and save it on your desktop as well. You do not need the BAT, only this patch.

Close the Internet.

Apply the EP1 patch then

Apply the BAT patch.

Now, open windows explorer and navigate to Program Files .... SimCity 4.exe. Hover your mouse over the file and right click. Open the version tab. The build version should now be 1,1,640 showing that you are completely up to date.

  Edited June 18, 2012 by A Nonny Moose  

[uvapwns 1]

Okay, I downloaded everything; now to try it. Is this supposed to fix my problem?

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

Okay, I downloaded everything; now to try it. Is this supposed to fix my problem?

A lot of them. Once you are up to the final level (1,1,640), you should be able to run with some command line tweaks to solve any further problems. If you are running OK, then you don't need anything else, but it depends on your machine.

[uvapwns 1]

All the no job zots disappeared. Thanks for the help.