Rewards but with no workers?

[gov 0]

hi guys. just new here but playing SC for a while.

just a question (and wondering) how some of my rewards have workers and some have don't?

i tried relocating them (ex main library as shown below) from and to commercial and residential, but effect, still no workers.

also, does park need workers? coz all my parks don't have either.

coz this would be a good for traffic, correct?

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

Welcome to Simtropolis and the conversation.

Some rewards are not set up to have workers, and parks definitely are not. If you are feeling ambitious you can learn to edit these lots and add workers to them. I don't know if the path finding algorithm is set up to allow this or not, but there is no harm in trying. You might want to explore this thread before you attempt anything like this.

[cogeo 960]

@Moose: It does not have to do with the pathfinding algorithm, workers will commute to the civic building just like the commercial ones, only the building must really offer civic jobs.

@Gov: If you wish to mod existing buildings (like the Maxis rewards) beware of the following:

- A civic building is NOT like a ploppable commercial, so they need to be modded differently.

- If you have already plopped any building/lot which you wish to mod. DO NOT install the modded version before bulldozing ALL instances of the original building/lot and saving the city(s), otherwise it can give you troubles.

  Edited March 19, 2012 by cogeo  

[gov 0]

thnx for the warm welcome guys!

... no need for me to start using the keyboard and tweak those hehehe. im currently content with NAM, its cool!

so i guess no need to worry on those lazy workers hahaha!

thnx a lot guys!

my apology for being a lurker ... peace!

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

He who lurks and runs away, lives to lurk another day.

[gov 0]

@ Moose

hahahaha! now i have to do more with the ALT+TAB while playing SC and Simtropolis

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

@ Moose

hahahaha! now i have to do more with the ALT+TAB while playing SC and Simtropolis

Since I am on Linux, I have four working desktop spaces, each multiple windows. So I run SC4 full screen and can switch away from it with impunity. Each desktop seems to have its own focus, so SC4 never knows I've left. You can have as many desktops are you like, but I think 4 is ample.

[gov 0]

@ moose - 4 working desktop?

not a techy guy here but running those with multi windows and it doesnt crash? just by linux?

are you sure you are not working with the CIA or something? hahahaha

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

@ moose - 4 working desktop?

not a techy guy here but running those with multi windows and it doesnt crash? just by linux?

are you sure you are not working with the CIA or something? hahahaha

No, lad. I just don't run Windows. Linux (Ubuntu 11.10 at the moment) has several desktops available and all that I have used so far have the ability to use a pretty much unlimited set of copies of the desktop as separate workspaces. These have windows within them. I find it unnecessary, therefore, to run SC4 in windowed mode, but full screen. I can switch to another desktop using CTRL+ALT+<arrow key>. This is very handy on the rare occasion when SC4 hangs. I can change to a different desktop, find out its process number and just kill it without having to reboot.

As for CTDs in SC4, I get them occasionally, but mostly avoid them by doing frequent in-game saves (CTRL+s). I also use the -CPUCount:1 option to avoid the occasional dispatcher glitch which can sometimes cause a CTD. Linux doesn't crash. Period.

If you want to scare the daylights out of a Linux user, there is a screensaver than emulates a BSOD. I don't even have it loaded, but it can be a hoot for people who have twisted senses of humor.

In the absolute emergency where Linux stops talking (haven't had one for a long time) there is a protocol to get an orderly shutdown as long as the basic kernel is alive (very hard to kill, as it is protected). Orderly shutdowns are necessary with Linux because it does write-behind on the file system, so in a power fail, you might lose something. Not much of a risk. If you are paranoid you can force your file system buffers to write by opening a console and issuing a sync command.

The main thing about Linux' kernel is that no applications have special deals with it, unlike our friends at Microsoft who just couldn't keep their paws out of there. The kernel is a standard across many versions, and anything else, privileged or not, runs completely outside the kernel and hardly ever in supervisor mode. An example is the wine support layer for windows programs. It never runs in supervisor mode, but it does on-the-fly conversion of Windows calls to Linux calls using the standard kernel interface. And yet, wine is considered to be an operating system layer. How about that?

The source code is freely available for all of Linux, too, by the way. No secret coding, no mustn't touches, etc. However, if you make changes to the kernel, it is yours. Best you can get after that is forum support. And just to make things better, most Linux systems are free. Being a poor old pensioner, I don't pay license fees for operating systems and haven't for years. I do pop for the occasional application or game.

[gov 0]

hi Moose, sorry for the laaaaaaate reply hehehe

i havent tried linux yet, coz i usually use only office docs, i have before open office but some i find soe diff from win office and bugs so i went back to gate OS (geez)

so using linux with games? i think that would be great, but im just a $%&^! guy if i will be using linux with games, exp SC4 and office at the same time

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

hi Moose, sorry for the laaaaaaate reply hehehe

i havent tried linux yet, coz i usually use only office docs, i have before open office but some i find soe diff from win office and bugs so i went back to gate OS (geez)

so using linux with games? i think that would be great, but im just a $%&^! guy if i will be using linux with games, exp SC4 and office at the same time

Most versions of Linux come with Libre Office which is a direct descendant of Open Office. Both of these are compatible with MS Office but with a slightly different interface and because they are community developed, somewhat more features. You can read/write MS Office files easily with no fuss.

The main attraction of Linux is the freedom from license fees. The support is communal and very good. Currently there are over 36,000 on the software catalogue of which most are no charge. Developers find other ways to get paid besides license fees.

[mittfh 7]

Amusingly, the BSOD screensaver for Windows was provided by...

...Microsoft themselves!

Evidently some of their developers have a twisted sense of humour

Meanwhile, one day I'll have a go at installing SC4 under my wine prefix - I once had it working several years ago, then a Wine update broke it, and I haven't tried since... I currently run it via a Virtualbox Vista install (running directly from the HDD of a laptop whose MoBo borked after 18 months - HDD extracted and installed in my desktop box). Just as one day I'll figure out how to get Rosegarden to play the music I'm editing...

[jacksunny 741]

^A fix for that was explained in thread.

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

Yup, and I just updated it.

[mittfh 7]

^A fix for that was explained in thread.

I meant a Wine version from several years ago - it may have been somewhere around the 1.0 mark. My box has been upgraded / reinstalled a few times over the years, from Mandriva 2008.0 running GNOME 2 to Mageia 1 running Xfce (albeit with a tiny GNOME panel for Webilder and gcdemu as xfapplet's no longer supported). Back then it was a 32-bit install with 2 GB DDR2, now I'm running a 64-bit install with 8 GB DDR3 (hence I can allocate 2 GB to VirtualBox so allowing both Linux and Windoze to run simultaneously and be [relatively] happy).

So once I've sorted out which particular native dll is currently causing wine to crash, I'll have a go at installing SC4 in my wineprefix...

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

^ what have dll's got to do with Linux?

[gov 0]

thnx peeps for the info. now i know why most of my previous IT co-workers have their linux. i was too lazy that time to ask bout it. another enlightenment for my lost soul hehe. thnx a lot peeps.