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Probabilities for plugin lots

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I wasn't sure whether this belongs in the technical category...

I have installed a lot of plugin lots (R, I, C) into SC Deluxe, but the standard Maxis lots seem to have a much higher probability to appear. Some of the plugins I have installed have nevver so far appeared. I Have all zoning densities for each type and cities big enough to allow for all kinds of buildings.

Gascooker lots e.g. appear relatively often, whereas SG lots are really rare. Is this a characteristic that is inscribed in the info file to the lot, or is there any way to influence this? It's not dependent on the depth of folders in the plugins folder, is it?

(Edited to remove unsightly asterisks - Astronelson)

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As far as I know, the big factor is the demand. If you have demand required (say for 4000 CO$$$ jobs), and your city has already hit the appropriate stage, it should grow. You may also want to keep in mind the tileset they are in. Sometimes I uncheck 3 out of the 4 tilesets to increase my chances (i.e. only select houston) and keep bulldozing until it shows up.

As long as you have sufficient demand for them, I think it is all random. I don't believe there is any kind of probability value associated with lots. I could be wrong though.

It doesn't matter how many sub folders you have either. I have a pretty deep folder structure (I think some are 4 deep), and I've never had any issues.

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You could just download a maxis RCI blocker by BSC or dusktrooper. Just search it up in the STEX and you should find it somewhere. Another thing, download the "Extra Cheats" mod, it has a tab where you can plop EVERY building in your SC4 including RCI.

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    Thanks for the replies, ExtraCheats is a good hint, that'll be hell of a scrolldown list!

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    Extracheats doesn't affect your scrolldown list.. those plops can only be accessed by using a special menu process

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    I've been through all the mods on the STEX & couldn't find either mod. Can someone provide me with links?

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    Originally posted by: klon

    I've been through all the mods on the STEX & couldn't find either mod. Can someone provide me with links?quote>

    www.simtropolis.com/stex/details.cfm

    The 5th sticky post on this general discussion forum should have some info you might need on the extracheats dll.

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    I have had similar problems to this. I've disabled maxis buildings for commercial, residential and farming and I find that certain plugin buildings occur more often than others.

    If it's really a problem, I remove the offending plugin and see how it affects the probability of other buildings appearing. I haven't found file depth to affect the probability of occurance, I think it is just luck of the random draw.

    In reference to the original query, it does depend on what stage the custom lot appears, if for example, you have no custom stage 1 or 2 residential plugins, your shiny level 4 building will not appear until your city is ready for it and Maxis default level 1 and 2's will appear until that point.

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