Duke Nukem Forever

[Z77 3]

 Linkie

Seems they uncanceled Duke Nukem again. And they are having a playable game coming soon to the PAX. Well lets see if they go forward

[Duke87 1,070]

It's interesting. When 3D Realms went under last year, everyone assumed that was officially it for DNF. But, as it's turning out, that may have actually been the best thing to ever happen to it. 2K Games inherited the rights to the game, and seem to actually be proving competent at making it. They say it will be out next year, and this time I'm actually inclined to believe them. I mean, they've got a playable demo!

What remains to be seen, though, is whether or not the game will live up to its inevitably massive hype.

[A Nonny Moose 8,262]

I am not a fan of FPS games that have been getting bloodier and bloodier.  However, it seems even vaporware condenses occasionally, and since the production has taken over ten years, it should be the definitive edition of this one for the current, and maybe future platforms.

As I get older, I get more and more pacifistic, and I am beginning to abhor this kind of game.  However, whatever sells.  If teeners blow their money on this they are not spending it on street drugs.

[joshriddle 29]

Originally posted by: A Nonny Moose

I am not a fan of FPS games that have been getting bloodier and bloodier.  However, it seems even vaporware condenses occasionally, and since the production has taken over ten years, it should be the definitive edition of this one for the current, and maybe future platforms.

As I get older, I get more and more pacifistic, and I am beginning to abhor this kind of game.  However, whatever sells.  If teeners blow their money on this they are not spending it on street drugs.

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Amen to that...

[Duke87 1,070]

Originally posted by: A Nonny Moose

I am not a fan of FPS games that have been getting bloodier and bloodier.  However, it seems even vaporware condenses occasionally, and since the production has taken over ten years, it should be the definitive edition of this one for the current, and maybe future platforms.

As I get older, I get more and more pacifistic, and I am beginning to abhor this kind of game.  However, whatever sells.  If teeners blow their money on this they are not spending it on street drugs.

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The games haven't gotten any bloodier. The graphics capabilities of gaming systems, however, have gotten more powerful, which has made the blood and gore look less cartoony and more realistic.

Something else is that there seems to be a key disconnect between people born before 1975 or so and people born in the 80's and beyond in terms of how video games are understood. People of the older generations who did not grow up playing video games simply do not mentally process them the same way younger people do.

In particular, the problem is in how one views the virtual world versus the real world, and to what degree one can separate the two. Those of us in the younger generations find nothing strange about enjoying doing horrible violent things in video games but at the same time never dreaming of doing any such things in real life. We go on crazy virtual rampages, then put the controller down and behave like normal decent human beings. We understand that what we do in video games is not real, and think about it in a different way from what we actually do. We understand that computers do not have feelings and do not care when their characters are abused.

The older generations, however, don't think in terms of these two parallel universes, and tend to want to apply real world morals to the virtual world, because they don't see it as something different.

I understand that war is a serious, deadly matter, and object to using violence when there are other viable options. But I enjoy virtually blowing things up and see nothing wrong with it. It's just a game, after all. No actual harm comes from it.

[A Nonny Moose 8,262]

Well, that's fine as long as you can separate the aspects of real and virtual reality.  I think us old fogeys have never had a problem with that.  There have been incidents in which a computer gamer became overcome by the virtual stuff and had some kind of psychotic break causing him/her to do harm in the real world.  I guess we see that as a real danger, because it has happened.

What happens when we get to the point where other senses besides vision and hearing become involved in these games, is one of the things science fiction people were writing about in the late 1960's and 1970's.  The idea of smell-0-visioin and feel-o-vision can be frightening.  A small attachment to your neural network would do the trick, and the attachments are getting smaller, and more available.

If they ever do this, I would like to take everyone on the tour the British made the native Germans take though Dachau.  Interesting to see if anyone doesn't throw up.