exception reports

[quicksilver991 37]

what are exception reports and how do i open them? what is a minidump file?

[joshriddle 29]

Minidump files hold information on the crash dump. These can be sent over the internet to certain tech support centers to obtain info. It also creates a text file that describes the error. When the game crashes to the desktop, it writes a minidump file and a text file. When the game crashes it always gives an ACCESS_VIOLATON excuse in the text documents. They are overall just technical info on the game error or crash.

[chocolate_city 93]

don't forget ... they can be opened when you associate them with notepad.exe or wordpad.exe

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

Unless you have a source listing of the text (game) and the load map, and the pagination data,  the exception reports are just a bunch of letters and numbers that have values less than 16.  You can scrap them as useless.  I have only found the first 10 or 15 lines of the text files to be of any use whatever, and that not much.

I've been in the computer business since 1962 and I've never seen such guff in all my life.  They probably have a dump interpreter at EA, but EA never looks at these things.  It reminds me of what you get when you push the dump button on the printer of a GE 225 computer, which is a pure core dump.  Blecch!

The reason you get ACCESS_VIOLATION is that there has been some hiccup in the memory system.  The game isn't designed for a virual system like modern computers, so any kind of unrecognized page fault or refusal "must be" an ACCESS_VIOLATION.  Who ever dreamed this one up should be violated.

[joshriddle 29]

Originally posted by: A Nonny Moose

Unless you have a source listing of the text (game) and the load map, and the pagination data,  the exception reports are just a bunch of letters and numbers that have values less than 16.  You can scrap them as useless.  I have only found the first 10 or 15 lines of the text files to be of any use whatever, and that not much.

I've been in the computer business since 1962 and I've never seen such guff in all my life.  They probably have a dump interpreter at EA, but EA never looks at these things.  It reminds me of what you get when you push the dump button on the printer of a GE 225 computer, which is a pure core dump.  Blecch!

The reason you get ACCESS_VIOLATION is that there has been some hiccup in the memory system.  The game isn't designed for a virual system like modern computers, so any kind of unrecognized page fault or refusal "must be" an ACCESS_VIOLATION.  Who ever dreamed this one up should be violated.

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To me exception reports are the lousiest excuses for junk I have ever seen. Sounds like to me at least I would have to have a dictionary that converts computer coding to english?! I don't speak computer you know.

Oh and ACCESS_VIOLATION just blew me away! At first I thought I was violating my access. Which made no sense at all. Unrecognized page faults and or refusals= Access Violations. I don't think it really was them trying to get into something, and they did, and they violated their access to it?

Trust me. I don't know what idiot thought up Access Violation. But that has to be the silliest thing. You are right about that one. Whoever thought that excuse up outta be violated.

And violating it's access TO WHAT?! Just to give you an idea of why I hate these things, here is what most of them say. In the top 3 lines.

Exception time: 08/19/2010, at 16:48:17.

Exception code: 0xC0000005 (-1073741819) ACCESS_VIOLATION.

Current thread ID: 1376 (0x00000560).

Version information:

Application/module path: C:\Program Files\SimCity 4 Deluxe\Apps\SimCity 4.exe

Application/module version name: SimCity 4

Application/module version: 1.1.638.0

System version: Windows NT 5.1

System memory: 992 Megabytes total, 492 Megabytes free.

Exception module:  .

Exception address: 0x00000000. Section:offset: 0x00:0x00000000.

Registers

   EAX: 07ed6824

   EBX: 00000000

   ECX: 07d50024

   EDX: 00038310

   ESI: 025c5094

   EDI: 076811b4

   CS:EIP: 001b:00000000

   SS:ESP: 0023:0012fb8c  EBP:0012fbc0

   DS:0023  ES:0023  FS:003b  GS:0000

   Flags: 00010216

Loaded Modules

   Address          Size Module             Path

   ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

   0x00400000    8187904 SimCity 4.exe      C:\Program Files\SimCity 4 Deluxe\Apps\SimCity 4.exe

   0x7c900000     729088 ntdll.dll          C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntdll.dll

   0x7c800000    1007616 kernel32.dll       C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll

Do you honestly expect us to know any of that nonsense?

Allow me to correct A Nonny Moose:

whoever dreamed that one up should be violated'

whoever dreamed up the entire exception reports nonsense should be violated.

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

Allow me to suggest to you, Josh, that if this is one of your reports, you need the BAT update if you want your BAT buildings to light up.  That's one of the things you can get from an exception report.  In fact, it is probably the only thing.