SimGoober Mall Lots & Models (need help)

[ClearlyPowa 4]

Hi everyone,

It's my first topic, and i hope that i will find answer to my problems.

I download from SC4 Devotion the file "Mall Lots" and "Mall Models" with all the dependencies required.  there is 8 growable Malls in this files. 

My problem is that i have no idea about the zize of the 8 malls, density and stage cap and the jobs they provide. 

thank you for help or advice.

[RippleJet 36]

Building Name	Lot Size	Growth Stage	Jobs
Large Shopping Center	12×6	Ploppable	568 CS§§
Kroger Grocery Store	5×4	3	390 CS§§
Super Shopping Center	18×6	3	2066 CS§§
Super Shopping Center	18×7	3	2066 CS§§
SG_Goober_Center	6×4	6	1741 CS§
RLS Shopping Center	6×3	8	678 CS§
Super Shopping Center	18×6	8	7137 CS§§
Super Shopping Center	18×7	8	7137 CS§§

The growable ones all grow on low density lots, except the RLS Shopping Center, which requires medium density.

[ClearlyPowa 4]

Hi , tanks you so much Ripple Jet for your quick answer.

There is some questions:

1/ what's the difference between the super shopping center (18*7 and 18*6). which size is better ?

2/ we have two malls (size 18*6 or 18*7) who grow in stage 3 and stage 8. are they the same (do we have the first one (stage 3) in our city and after, the mall grows and is a stage 8.

3/ tanks for your answer, and sorry for my bad english

[ClearlyPowa 4]

Hi everyone,

I tried to have the malls in one of my cities.

- For the first one (Ploppable) : no problem and give the jobs as mentionned (568 $)

- for the 2nd and the 5th , the size break down in multiple commerce.

- the super shopping center (stage 3) grow, but gives 716 jobs C$$ and not 2066

- the super shopping center (stage don't grow in my city (Res 66.000/ Comm 35.000; Region (Res : 1.200.000 and comm 625.000), but the RLS shopping center (stage 8 )has grown many times even if i buldoze it !!!

At last, i download the file "super shopping center 2" for simtropolis . No problem for growing in my city(the 2 size 18x7 and 18x6). but i have only 716 C$$ jobs and and not the 2857 C$ as mentionned in the read me.

I need help and some advice. Thanks

[BarbyW 40]

First of all, you cannot have the files from the STEX and the two dats from the LEX in plugins at the same time. You must decide which you want to use and delete the others. If you want to use the ones from the STEX then both SG_Lots_Malls.dat and SG_Models_Malls.dat must be deleted. If you mix the two you will have duplicate models and also lots but the capacities will be different.

Secondly, to zone for the large malls you need to use CTRL whilst zoning. They will all grow in Medium density zoning if you have the correct demand and zone. You may have the 18x6 break up into smaller units no matter what you do but persistence should pay off and it will grow eventually.

[ClearlyPowa 4]

Thanks for your answer.

i agree with All what u right in your answer. I have tried the files from the LEX and the problems was :

- For the first one (Ploppable) : no problem and give the jobs as mentionned (568 $)

- for the 2nd and the 5th , the size break down in multiple commerce.

- the super shopping center (stage 3) grow, but gives 716 jobs C$$ and not 2066

- the super shopping center (stage don't grow in my city (Res 66.000/ Comm 35.000; Region (Res : 1.200.000 and comm 625.000), but the RLS shopping center (stage 8 )has grown many times even if i buldoze it !!!

So, my problem is not the size of the malls or the growing in my city (it's ok for this), but the jobs they give for each mall.

After , I delete All the files i have download from the LEX, and download the 2 files "super shopping center 1 and 2" from the STEX, each file alone, and I noticed this :

- No problem for growing in my city(the 2 size 18x7 and 18x6). but i have only 716 C$$ jobs and and not the 2857 C$ as mentionned in the read me.

To resume, my problems is the jobs given by the Malls (i have no problem with the size , nor the density), they give only jobs for CS $$ an no job for CS$ , like the creator (sim goober) of the Mall mentionned in the read me.

P.S : the 2 files from the STEX grows in three density (Low, Medium and High) and the probability to have the firt version with the "Groker shop"( is high than to have the second version (with "corner").

thanks you very much for All your answers, receive my best salutations from Morroco.

Thanks for your answer, and i hope that

[ClearlyPowa 4]

Hi everyone,

i really need help. the problem i read is always the same. I tried yesterday but have no chance to have the mall with the 2857 C$ jobs.

[RippleJet 36]

Originally posted by: ClearlyPowa the super shopping center (stage 3) grow, but gives 716 jobs C$$ and not 2066

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The one with 716 jobs is obviously the one you downloaded from STEX.

If you have both of them, it's a matter of chance, but also of supply and demand, which of them would grow.

Originally posted by: ClearlyPowa the super shopping center (stage don't grow in my city

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It's never easy to get the bigger ones to grow. I assume you're using CAM though...

Otherwise, it would be virtually impossible to get those with 7137 jobs to grow.

Originally posted by: ClearlyPowa To resume, my problems is the jobs given by the Malls (i have no problem with the size , nor the density), they give only jobs for CS $$ an no job for CS$ , like the creator (sim goober) of the Mall mentionned in the read me.

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The CS§ job count is what the CS§§ mall would get if it dilapidates. It would never grow as a CS§.

[ClearlyPowa 4]

thanks you very mutch Ripplejet.

It's clear now for me

Last question : what about this last "question"?

the 2 files from the STEX "super shop 1 and 2" grows in three density (Low, Medium and High) and the probability to have the first version with the "Groker shop"( is high than to have the second version (with "corner").

Is there any solution to have only the mall "with corner" growing in my city => I find that's he look's like a realistic mall

thanks for the time you spent to answer me

[RippleJet 36]

Super Shopping Center #1 (from STEX) contains two lots:

- CS$$3_18x6_SG_SuperCenter01_d0134953.SC4Lot

- CS$$3_18x7_SG_SuperCenter01_f02085f4.SC4Lot

They are the ones with a "corner shop" and are of Growth Stage 3.

Super Shopping Center #2 (from STEX) also contains two lots:

- CS$$3_18x6_SG_SuperCenter02_f01baf89.SC4Lot

- CS$$3_18x7_SG_SuperCenter02_302085de.SC4Lot

They are the ones with a straight lineup of shops and are of Growth Stage 1 (despite the filenames indicating that they would be Growth Stage 3).

The reason Super Shopping Center #2 grows easier for you, might be that your need for Growth Stage 3 isn't high enough yet. The larger your region grows, the more stage 3 (instead of stage 1) you will see though.

If you do not want Super Shopping Center #2 to grow at all, simply remove those two lots:

- CS$$3_18x6_SG_SuperCenter02_f01baf89.SC4Lot

- CS$$3_18x7_SG_SuperCenter02_302085de.SC4Lot

[ClearlyPowa 4]

Hi Rippleset,

thanks very mutch for your help and your advice. I think that this post is finished with your last answer. Hope that each visitor who have questions about his great file will find his answer here.

Good luck for you and long life to this great fan site.