The Internets are broken

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Originally posted by: your_adress_here

Originally posted by: MrCinatit While some might look at me as a voice of reason, I believe it is now time to completely and totally panic. I, for one, am ready for the zombie infestation. I have barracaded myself in the nearest internet cafe with three months supply of Skittles, hot pockets and Surge. I am also quite willing to begin killing any stumbling, bumbling half-dead creature which comes towards me, yelling "LANs! LANs!"quote>

Time to get out your Zombie Survival Guide!

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I have that book, its a good read....

Originally posted by: saltandsauce i think south park did an episode where the internet "went away" and everyone moved to "Californiway" and the news team were like "there is no news as we havn't been able to receive news since it was done over the internet (what did we do before the internet?) next scene "a FAX is coming through the FAX IS WORKING"

oh yes our global economy depends on people posting how much they love the jonas brothers and China getting a fraction of the whole internet (half is blocked by the great firewall of china anyway) but i thought that money was made by selling stuff like books,foodstuffs and machinery obviously now it is made through a ton of 1s and 0s.

learning to start a fire is important since what do you do if it's cold and there is a powercut? and you have no matches.

life was never easier before now but it was simpler

as for the efficiency arguement i'm sure you wouldn't be a big fan of efficiency if it meant you were suddenly made redundant by a machine or computer programmequote>

You can sell stuff on the internet, no? Whats Ebay been doing !! Do you not need to communicate to customers across the globe? I'm sure 10 year old Jimmy down the street would like a 50 story tall crane to build a skyscraper... oh wait...

The internet allows us to provide goods and services to an expanding customer base. Additionally, even though China restricts internet access, much of it is still relegated to pure business.

Learning to start a fire is almost entirely useless for most people, particularly if you lack a good way to ventilate it. Burning inside will cause carbon monoxide poisoning if you don't have a fireplace, which many people don't. And in places like Minnesota, leaving a door cracked would TOTALLY negate even having a fire to begin with as -30 C temperatures burst through the door. So yes, in most cases, learning to make a fire is utterly useless. I don't plan on being in the woods 400 miles away from civilization any time soon.

Technology has always made certain occupations redundant, its called progress. Not everyone can be working in 18th century factories still. This distrust of technology is just scary, not that I'm not used to your overbearing cynicism and negativity. But come on, do you expect us all to work in flour mills? Technology has provided an ever expanding job market, not the reverse. Just 30 years ago information technology was miniscule... now people are fixing, making, designing, manufacturing and troubleshooting technology. I'm sure that the jobs lost from the 8-track industry were more than made up with Sony, Panasonic and others. Oh, lets not forget the retail jobs created by technology... I mean come on... think a little.

[Meg 368]

Originally posted by: Boggy1

But you shouldn't just have technology and no skills. It's quite scary. How many of us could plant and grow our own food? It's not as easy at it looks. I'd say keep the technology, but become self sufficient with your skills. A good merger of the both.quote>

 

But that's the thing:  how are the millions of people who live in cities supposed to plant their own food?   There just isn't enough land within a reasonable distance for everyone to do that.

Yes, we could have hydroponic high rise buildings.   But that's just more technology, isn't it?

Specialization has existed ever since Og the caveman went out to do Ugh's hunting for him so Ugh could stay home and figure out how to make that stone knife.

 

Yes, we are at a point where most people could not live off the land and, even if they knew, they could not do so given the condition of the land around them.  There are too many people and not enough forage-able / hunt-able / cropland for everyone to be self-sufficient.  

[Easy Bakes 253]

Originally posted by: Barbarossa [sarcasm] OMG!  It's the end of the world!  People will have to use landlines and rely on primitive forms of business operations (aka, the 1980s).  What will the traders do?  Will Fedex and UPS survive!  OMG!  OMG! [/sarcasm]

This is why people need to get a grip on reality.  Dependence on the internet, cellphones, even toasters, will lead to failure.  It's like we are adopting new technologies whole-heartedly without understanding the consequences of abandoning the plain-'ol nitty-gritty.  Civilization has been in place for thousand of years, but in only 20 yrs, we have succeeded in making ourselves dependent on technology.  How many people can start a fire without a lighter?  How many people can design a building without using AutoCAD?  How many people understand the implications of Pythagoras? Some can, but far too many will give you a blank stare.

Sorry for the rant, but I am completely unsympathetic to this type of garbage.  IMO, failures of this sort will do us some good.

Barbarossaquote>

 

I will add navagation systems to that list. Soon no one will be able to read a map.

[Hahayoudied 3]

I think technology is important, but you still have to have skills...

[simsmart 1]

Originally posted by: Danlikebooks

If, say, one of America's enemies )Iran, North Korea, to name a few) got control of one of these EMP bombs, we're toast, buttered, and eaten (I've never said that before!).  Shouldn't we have a backup plan if our electronics get knocked out?quote>

Take a look at how much crazy Cold War jazz was declassified already. I'm sure that the military has some kind of backup plan... At least to stop the country from being attacked.

[beebs 129]

Originally posted by: SkiGeek

Originally posted by: Boggy1

But you shouldn't just have technology and no skills. It's quite scary. How many of us could plant and grow our own food? It's not as easy at it looks. I'd say keep the technology, but become self sufficient with your skills. A good merger of the both.quote>

 

But that's the thing:  how are the millions of people who live in cities supposed to plant their own food?   There just isn't enough land within a reasonable distance for everyone to do that. quote>

Well, I don't think boggy means that everyone needs to have a whole farm operation going on, but simply the knowledge of what to do, etc. is needed to be kept alive.

And you can actually get a fair amount of veggies grown in a very small plot of land in your backyard if you can use the space well. In my family's first house in this area, we had one going that gave us enough fresh peas, carrots, lettuce, etc. to last the summer and a bit into the fall.

[Boggy1 45]

Thanks beebs, thats exactly what I meant

Even if you don't have any sort of yard or backgarden at all, it is cheap and simple to keep several pots of greens on the windowsill and the kitchen sideboard. We had a number of lettuce pots next to the sink this summer. You cut a bit off every day, and it grows back within hours. Never bought a sliver of lettuce for the entire summer. Same goes for the mint plant, the parsley plant, and the bay plant. Really cheap to keep, but they give a lot back in foods.

[Easy Bakes 253]

Iv always want ed to try to grow tomatoes on my balcony.

Their expensive and i like them.

[Explodingsims 3]

Originally posted by: Easy Bakes

Originally posted by: Barbarossa [sarcasm] OMG!  It's the end of the world!  People will have to use landlines and rely on primitive forms of business operations (aka, the 1980s).  What will the traders do?  Will Fedex and UPS survive!  OMG!  OMG! [/sarcasm]

This is why people need to get a grip on reality.  Dependence on the internet, cellphones, even toasters, will lead to failure.  It's like we are adopting new technologies whole-heartedly without understanding the consequences of abandoning the plain-'ol nitty-gritty.  Civilization has been in place for thousand of years, but in only 20 yrs, we have succeeded in making ourselves dependent on technology.  How many people can start a fire without a lighter?  How many people can design a building without using AutoCAD?  How many people understand the implications of Pythagoras? Some can, but far too many will give you a blank stare.

Sorry for the rant, but I am completely unsympathetic to this type of garbage.  IMO, failures of this sort will do us some good.

Barbarossaquote>

 

I will add navagation systems to that list. Soon no one will be able to read a map.

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Okay, while not everyone needs to know this sort of stuff, it wouldn't hurt to know some of it.

But on the other hand, what about the technology such as refridgeration, and preservatives?

Do we want to go back to the days of salted meats and veggies at only certain times of year?

And if you're going to say that we've been around for thousands of years, and only now have hung ourselves in the technology noose, don't forget that someone has said that over 1000 years ago.

Technology will always advance, and people will only get more depentant on it. Until someone makes a virtual sex machine, which will lead to the extiction of humanity!

[LarksTonguesInAspic 28]

Originally posted by: Explodingsims  Until someone makes a virtual sex machine, which will lead to the extiction of humanity!quote>

 

A real, actual one (not virtual, and certainly not virtuous) has been invented. No link or descriptions here, for the sake of site integrity... but there is such a thing and has been for several years.

 But on the gardening thing, I have pondered starting a gardener's thread (would anyone care?). It's not bragging to say I am a master gardener, with an undergrad in composting technique and organics. I specialize in unusual and heirloom varieties, and have found that companion gardening (grouping symbiotic plants together) can work some real wonders.

[Barbarossa 51]

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[Easy Bakes 253]

Originally posted by: Barbarossa

Manticorefan said: with an undergrad in composting techniquequote>

I will heretofore call you Poopmaster!  Or perhaps, Scheißmeister.  Just kidding! 

Barbarossaquote>

 

Time for Manticorefan's Unique tag?

[EmporerEJ 0]

Originally posted by: manticorefan

Originally posted by: Explodingsims  Until someone makes a virtual sex machine, which will lead to the extiction of humanity!quote>

 

A real, actual one (not virtual, and certainly not virtuous) has been invented. No link or descriptions here, for the sake of site integrity... but there is such a thing and has been for several years.

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I am the inventor of the aforementioned "Thing" (Domain by the same name.)

Thanks for the shout out. And no, the intention was NOT the extinction of man, but several noble purposes. Most of them medical, one of them recreational. Guess which one is profitable?

It's not the technology that's changing the culture, it's the people. The technology is neutral.

[LarksTonguesInAspic 28]

^^ Hmmm. 'k.... keep in mind kiddies, anyone can claim anything. Not to dismiss anyone out of hand, but this is the internet.

And no, Barbarossa, I usually don't use poop, unless the circus is in town (they give it away). I use primarily matter available from home use. Kitchen scraps, coffee grounds, eggshells, grass clippings, etc. 

While manure does make good compost, too much fresh stuff leads to an imbalance in the carbon/nitrogen ratio, and can slow down the process (not to mention the smell, not very neighborly). Store-bought ready-composted manure is a good builder of organic matter, and I would use it as a soil conditioner instead of mixing it in the pile... except I never spend money I don't have to. Particularly on crap.

[EmporerEJ 0]

Originally posted by: manticorefan ^^ Hmmm. 'k.... keep in mind kiddies, anyone can claim anything. Not to dismiss anyone out of hand, but this is the internet.

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mmmm...Kkk chippy......that's right.

But herer's what you do if you doubt me. Check it. (If it's that important to you.)

You'll find my name, Eric J. White, and my picture, as well as many television appearances, by doing a simple google search, you tube, TV.com, IMDB.com, or, the "not mentioned" website.

[Explodingsims 3]

^^^

Remember Rule #1 of the internet, pics or it didn't happen.

Although given the case, I dunno if that would be appropriate.

And the extinction of man thing was kind of a joke.

Although if you look at what things like Guitar Hero has done to the music industry...

[Boggy1 45]

Manticorefan: Same here! We have two big old composting bins, which we dump all organic waste into (excluding excrement). This year we used one small plot of land that we hadn't grown on for a couple of years. Dumped the compost onto it, and we had one of the best harvests we've ever had. Also the bins provide a nice home for a number of toads and frogs.

I took these two pictures in late Spring, before we had really got going:

[LarksTonguesInAspic 28]

Nice! That looks like a cool yard.

My new project (mom's yard) is currently suffering from a 10-year lack of maintenance and is under a foot of snow, so I won't bother taking pics yet.

I started a new topic for gardening in the general off-topic forums, so we now return you to your regularly scheduled topic.