MallowTheCloud

Date: 9/20/2005 5:25:18 PM Author: Kevin Ar18 From this it appears that my number is one less than MallowTheCloud's for both the 0's and 1's index, as your math shows. However, if it is also true that the water level occurs between two levels, then my guess was that it occurs between my lower number and MallowTheCloud's one higher number.quote> Yeah, I think the number according to something I read was something like 83.33 (Using 0 as a starting reference). Either way, you should start your land around 85 or 86, and your water around 80.... because at sea level, SC4 really tries to smooth everything out way too much. Plus, with really low elevations, you get problems with large water ponds on edges of maps.

Awesome post as usual, Jeroni! I love the plopped water, even from far away. Keep up the great work, and don't rush yourself.

Date: 9/19/2005 12:34:56 PM Author: frndofyaweh MallowTheCloud: Glad to see you back MTC! I did it on SNES, but just never let run long enough, I guess. I got that message to send my city to Maxis, but I never did it. I aslo have PC version. actually, I have just about all things Sim/Maxis.quote> Well... my SNES version didn't give me that message to send my city to Maxis.... I thought maybe that was only with the PC version. Any way, great work with the Game Experiment! Keep it up!

Date: 9/18/2005 2:08:38 AM Author: ephorex_77 Date: 9/18/2005 2:00:08 AM Author: masher Date: 9/18/2005 1:43:22 AM Author: MallowTheCloud Date: 9/18/2005 1:39:17 AM Author: DuskTrooper So...how's the weather been like in this part, eh? BTW, I was just wondering; do any of you people fit the sterotypical 'gay' mold? You know...the wardrobe, the decor, etc.quote> Well, here, the weather has been awesome! Highs in the 70s, lows in the 50s, foggy mornings and sunny afternoons. As for the mold, not I. Not even close. Somebody may, though. quote> Just say masher....it won't hurt youquote> LOL!! Nah, you don't seem like that kind of person masher...are you...?? quote> Hehe, I didn't think so either. But, if it's true, it's true.

I said a truce. -JoeSocWork

Date: 9/18/2005 1:39:17 AM Author: DuskTrooper So...how's the weather been like in this part, eh? BTW, I was just wondering; do any of you people fit the sterotypical 'gay' mold? You know...the wardrobe, the decor, etc.quote> Well, here, the weather has been awesome! Highs in the 70s, lows in the 50s, foggy mornings and sunny afternoons. As for the mold, not I. Not even close. Somebody may, though.

Date: 9/18/2005 12:38:15 AM Author: dev (The Bold): Exactly...multiple viewpoints...constructive comments. Tell me where have I not complied with this in any way? Just because I don't agree with you, I haven't made a constructive post? Lots of people are also saying I am 'hating' I have not hated anyone...I have claimed I hate the way they live their life... Yeah, I am getting a strong response...I knew I would, gay people and people who are for gay rights are a majority on this forum...It doesn't hurt for you guys to hear from this forum's minority at times...quote> Personally, I'm quite happy you posted here, dev. We all got a chance to respond, and I think our responses were very valid and civil for the most part. I think people who may read this in the future will see exactly why we feel the way we feel. That doesn't mean I wasn't insulted, because I was. As I said, of course you're going to get a strong response when you try to claim you know more about the situation than those of us who live it. You may wonder why you get such a strong response when bringing this up. If a person told you they despised the fact that you are Christian, but that they don't despise you, would you be insulted? That's not even a fair comparison, because that's a choice. However, in this case, since you claim homosexuality is a choice, it may make you realize what you're saying. A more fair comparison (though one I am sure you'll debate) would be this: If a person told you that they despised the fact that you are white, but that they don't despise you, would you be insulted? Any logical person would. And that's exactly the type of thing that's being said by you, dev. So, if as you say you hate the way [we] live [our] life, well dev, then I hate the way you live yours as a Christian. But, I don't hate you, dev, just your lifestyle. Of course, my above statement isn't true, because I don't hate the Christian lifestyle. I feel that's your choice. I'm just trying to point out that it's a very similar concept.

Date: 9/17/2005 11:37:24 PM Author: zelgadis Today, my fiance and I became officially, totally legal permenant residents. All of the government b.s. we had to go through is finally over! [dumps confetti] Our wedding is in May. You're all invited! I was hoping to get married before I'm 30 and have gray hair. Now I can only hope I'm married before I'm 30... Stupid aging process... Nothing makes you feel older like going shopping for your first box of 'Just for Men.' Mom and Dad are either going to give us a trip to Nova Scotia or buy us a bedroom set for our gift. They won't tell me which... ISF quote> Congratulations! It's great that your parents are being good about this... some parents would probably just disown their kids. Good luck!

Indianapolis has been edited! Version 2 should be on the STEX soon.

I stop checking the CJs for a week and jeronij already has 8 pages in a new CJ! Well, I'll be following it. It looks just as great as I would have expected it to look from you, Jeroni! So, keep up the great work!

Date: 9/17/2005 12:15:36 PM Author: dev The gay lifestyle refers to GLBT overall. The life of choosing the same sex over the opposite. Yes, I do indeed hate that. I will do anything in my power to stop homosexual marriage, etc. But I would never try to have homosexuals killed or sent to exile, etc...Hate the sin, love the sinner. Basically many of you come in here just so certain that your's gay or Bi...and maybe you are and it isn't going to change...I say it again...you were not born that way. Certain circumstances in your life led you to have an attraction to the same sex...It doesn't mean that your attraction to the opposite sex it gone, just not as easy to get to because you have focused your mind on one point: 'I AM GAY' and made it clear, and won't change...I have made my opinion clear, 'I despise homosexuality', I made this opinion by choice, and it won't change no matter how much you guys knock me down. Yes, I know your opinions will, most likely never change, 'This is who I am!'. But I can say, most of you have just felt a small amount of gay feeling at one point and then turned on full throttle... -Romans 1:26-27 / -I Corinthians 9:19 quote> And I can say with 100% certainty (once again) that you are wrong. One can make the choice to despise homosexuality as you have done, but that says nothing about the choice or lack thereof to be homosexual. And since that is not you, you have absolutely no right to judge us. I believe God tells all Christians not to judge, because it is only He who will decide in the end. To despise the gay lifestyle (in other words, as you put it, choosing the same sex over the opposite) means you are despising us. No matter how you put it (hate the sin, love the sinner), there is no denying that you are insulting us. You may wonder why you get such a strong response when bringing this up. If a person told you they despised the fact that you are Christian, but that they don't despise you, would you be insulted? That's not even a fair comparison, because that's a choice. However, in this case, since you claim homosexuality is a choice, it may make you realize what you're saying. A more fair comparison (though one I am sure you'll debate) would be this: If a person told you that they despised the fact that you are white, but that they don't despise you, would you be insulted? Any logical person would. And that's exactly the type of thing that's being said by you, dev. Whether you choose to realize it or not, homosexuality is not a choice. And as I said before: to claim you understand the situation more than those of us who live it is ignorant, in my opinion.

Thank you, Jamie. I, as well, do not subscribe to the gay lifestyle. It's just not who I am. I think Jamie put it perfectly. I don't have a problem with you having opinions, dev, but to say that you despise the gay lifestyle is insulting. And to claim you understand the situation more than those of us who live it is ignorant, in my opinion.

Date: 9/17/2005 12:57:12 AM Author: dev Ok...well, I am sure you all figured I'd post here sooner or later...I always have an opinion. Anyways...let me express...we are 'civilized' thus far...Many opinions supporting homo/bisexuality...now one against it. Basically, I love all you guys in Christ...every single one of you...I might not exact like you, but I still love you...But I can easily say I despise the gay lifestyle. To be honest, it simply isn't natural. It isn't exactly 'who you are' but what you become. Many say that they have no choice but to be gay...Well...this is very much untrue, if one were to start young with gay fantasies, then they would eventually grow in to a gay person through puberty...not focusing on the opposite sex. Homosexuality is like religion...there is one true way, but if you grow up in a different way, or adapt yourself to it, your faith will become rock hard and you will have no doubgt you are going the right way...or you might stumble around...simply not sure, because you never subjected yourself to the truth... I end with this... Homosexuality is not who you are, but who you mold yourself into, and the clay will eventually fall and melt away... quote> First of all, I'd like to say that you are simply wrong. I don't usually say that, because usually I leave room for error and opinion. However, in this I know you are wrong. But, I would like to ask this of you. If you're not gay, how can you possibly tell gay people that it is their choice, as if you have experience with it? People can change their sexuality if they really want to, but these people will still always have a part of them that feels toward their original sexuality. Nobody here decided one day hey, I'm going to be gay. As you have seen from many on this thread, there are so many complications (i.e. ridicule, violence, etc) that why would any of us choose it? No, my friend, I am afraid you are mistaken.

Date: 9/8/2005 12:42:48 AM Author: cammo2003 Date: 7/28/2005 5:26:07 PM Author: MallowTheCloud Newcastle has been released, and is slated to show up soon!quote> Nice job with that map. I'm not using it, but it's a VERY accurate rendition of Newy. I should know, me and my mates managed to get lost in Newcastle's CBD! quote> Thanks for the comments! Las Vegas has been edited! Version 2 should be on the STEX soon.

EDIT: I like the weather.

Yep, or you can download it from here

Date: 9/15/2005 1:24:28 AM Author: mpetryni It's an excellent idea. Unfortunately, the suburbanites of America (and, ironically, the ruralites) can't quite stomach the idea yet. The only well-known attempt was that of the Oregon state government, which set strict urban growth boundaries and stopped sprawl in the state for more that 30 years. Unfortunately, a land-use policy was passed through initiative in that state, after significant campaigning from pro-development interests. It was called Measure 37 and was considered by city planning scholars to be one of the worst actions by the people of a state for stopping sprawl. (link to pdf on measure 37: http://www.friends.org/issues/documents/M37/M37-Q-and-A.pdf ) Without knowing all the details, all I can do is hope that the model city of Portland does not become ravaged by developer stupidity and carelessness. If sprawl were to occur in Portland, however, it would still be on the backbone of a highly advanced civic infrastructure, the prized result of 35 years of relative peace. Stopping misuse of farmland in America (or really, anywhere) is often very difficult due to the financing power of those who benefit most from poor development. This includes oil companies, car companies, wealthy developers and landowners. However, louisville is right - there will come a time when it simply does not matter due to the economic necessity of proximal farmland. Let's just hope that the slow and gradual process of reclamation isn't too devastating.quote> Measure 37, from what I'm told, only compensates property owners for possible revenue lost due to city management. It doesn't allow developers to build without regard to land use laws that are currently in place. So far, there is very minimal sprawl on the outskirts of Portland. And as you said, most of the infrastructure in place will help in unlikely the event that much more sprawl does occur in the future.

Here's a pic of one of the most confusing intersections in the Portland area:

Date: 9/14/2005 2:21:41 PM Author: northsider1983 MallowTheCloud: hahah thats funny! i played SC classic on my pc, and when i got past 550,000, it said somthing similar, and added that i send my city to maxis. So i did, copied it to floppy disk and mailed it...i never got a reply quote> Date: 9/16/2005 11:28:34 AM Author: frndofyaweh MallowTheCloud: Thanks for drifting in, MTC! 610,000!! I got 550,000 something, like Northsider1983 said above and thought that was, as high as, I would get. I never went further. guess I should have, eh?quote> Hehe, it may just be because I was on the SNES version. I haven't really tried it out on the computer version. Anyway, keep up the great work, frndofyaweh!

This looks extremely similar to a project I had done... from buses to the X to civil buildings etc. One of the few things I did differently was to include industry in my main city, but I like your way better. By the way, I used a 5x4 grid... including a 4x4 plot of zone and a 1x4 section of transit/parks. Besides annoying industry in my city, my main problem was the computer slowing down way too much when the city got too big. Good work, and good luck! P.S. By the way, on Sim City Classic (SNES), I used that parallel-rail method as well. My highest population on that game (on Super Nintendo) was just over 610,000 on map 061. I have never seen anybody claim to get that high before, and nobody seems to know that when you do get to 600,000 you get a special message. Of course, 500,000 is the megalopolis... but at 600,000, four colorful Dr. Wrights come out dancing and throwing confetti (in a box much like all the boxes telling you you've reached a City, Capital, etc.) and explaining that you are the greatest mayor...

Date: 9/5/2005 2:47:32 PM Author: nofunk Date: 12/17/2004 2:51:41 PM Author: wolverine In Oakland County, Michigan's sprawliest county, they are going to create a gas tax which would deter people from driving their cars. Many people would think that is unfair because what about the people that need to drive all the way to work? Well, take the bus, or other mass transit!! Keep in mind, this tax only happens in certain areas where mass transit is available. A big blow against sprawl in Michigan came when the city where I live, Ann Arbor, sought to completely eliminate it. They set up a smart growth act, created a greenbelt, cut infrastructure upgrades in rural areas ...quote> The problem is, where is the mass transit? I think if Detroit could do one thing to better its lot, it would be to construct some REAL mass transit. Even the bus system is grossly inadequate. Not only does it not adequately connect suburban residents to the center city for work, it downright discriminates against poor inner city residents by not allowing them into the suburbs to work in any of the abundant service jobs for which they are qualified. Tax incentives to use mass transit will work only if people are given a menu of transit options from which to choose. Many people wouldn't endure a 45 - 60 minute bus ride into Detroit regardless of gas taxes. (And for what it's worth, in Oakland Co. you still have to DRIVE to a commuter lot where the buses pick up and drop off.) Also, while I applaud my city of Ann Arbor on its attempts at curbing sprawl, it's important to remember that greenbelts are not a panacaea. In many cases, all they do is force sprawl outside the greenbelt. True, it might persuade some to move into the city, but for many others, cheap taxes and big homes will always be worth a longer drive to work. And hey, if they get to enjoy driving through beautiful green spaces on their way to work, why not take the longer commute?! Hahaha ... (I just wonder if the money used to buy up farmland could be better spent on things like, oh, affordable housing.) I think the real key to curbing sprawl is an urban growth boundary. Unfortunately, in most parts of the country local governments don't have nearly enough power or influence over their neighbors to make this work.quote> Ahh, precisely why I love living in Portland.