A city WITH industrial zone

[Caiuz 3]

Hello guys

After I have grown a city without industry, and I must say that it's easy.

I thank you as I have helped, but NOW I want to grow a city with industry and SEE, that's difficult!

So 'that the industry should be placed near the power plant away from residents and commercial zone.

The thing that strikes me is that I miss the money! how do I make money fast? evaluation of the mayor is low!

I built the trees around the industrial zones to reduce pollution and it works!

but 'I have this problem that I do not know' how to build the city in order to grow and make money ...

Solutions?

[Mithrik 562]

When you build industry in the same square as a residential, you must try to build it near the edge of a map, to reduce pollution and freight trips, you should also start with medium industry, if you have the SPAM, agriculture can give a good support too, otherwise it will only pollute your water. Obviously keep residential and commercial far from industry, unless it's High Tech.

Dirty industry (I-D) is you safe bet when you are trying to get a good balance on your budget and still have plenty of jobs, but if you have a healthy middle class population, Manufacturing Industry (I-M)is a much better way, as it gets more money for you and has a wider range of employment, plus it pollutes a third of what Dirty does and it's demand easily goes up with education.

Still, unless you make an economy based around Dirty Industry and a slum city, you won't get tons of money as your budget won't get over 3000/month, normally.

Hope it helps.

[A Nonny Moose 8,262]

Well, here is an example. It may help you get your head around the requirements.

Welcome to Fisherman's Bay.

This is really to illustrate a slightly different point, but you could consider it to be a starting kit.

[Cob92 360]

Build the industry near a city border or railroad, have lots of neighbor connections. Ignore the low Mayor Rating unless people start rioting; when the city gets wealthy and the other areas improve, the opinions of the ghetto Sims won't matter anymore.

[cogeo 960]

Indeed, making a city with industry is the really hard scenario. The taxes you are collecting aren't high, power consumption is much higher, so you will need a bigger powerplant, pollution is high too, so you will need a water treatment plant too. And the jobs they create are all R$ (talking about I-D). Imo it's not sustainable, esp if you grow a lot of medium- and high-density housing, as many of your expenses, like health and education will go up proportionately to the population, but revenues won't go up as much. A good solution is to satisfy all CS demand, before zoning for more industry. CS pays a lot of taxes, even the poor CS$ type. Only the demand for CS comes after some population growth (it regards sims as customers). Having a given residential popualtion, creates CS demand capable of supporting a number of CS jobs equal to 20% of the residential population of the respective wealth type (eg 100 R$$$ residents create demand for 20 CS$$$ jobs). More jobs mean more residents etc, and if you do the math you will find that you will finally have 67% additional jobs in the CS sector. CS demand is unique in this, ie it follows population growth, while all other jobs types (incl civic) instead cause the population to grow. So with 1000 CO + I + Civic jobs you will finally have another 667 jobs in the CS sector, being able to support a total of 2 x (1000 + 667) = 3333 residents.

So my advice is try to satisfy all CS demand ("exhaust" it), and make sure that you have a positive budget, before zoning for more industrial. And if your budget isn't strongly positive and you have some R demand, better zone (new) for low-density R (you may upgrade them later), instead of trying to grow existing buildings taller, as the taxes they pay (per occupant) are a lot higher.

If you provide sufficient education, demand for I-D (and later I-M too) may turn negative at some point, and cause industrial development to stop or even some industrial buildings to be abandoned. But if you satisfy all R demand (esp R) and have other cities connected this may not happen. In such a case you can't do much, only bring in more young. low-educated sims (most probably, in another city), though this is not always possible, as R$ demand may have turned negative too. You may also need to bulldoze some of the industrial lots (to make room for I-HT), preferably the ones closer to the residential or commercial areas, as pollution won't allow I-HT^* to grow. CO should be high up right then. That is you may not be able to continue industrial development (with the exception of some I-HT), and your city will be developing more and more commercial, and (proportionately) less and less industrial.

The real advantage of industry is the number of jobs it provides, useful to kick-start your city. Later-on you can keep it and add some I-HT too, but CO$$ and CO$$$ will most likely be the primary employers.

* Beware of the I-HT bug (it doesn't allow R$$$ sims to work in I-HT!!!). Take a look in my previous posts in this forum to see suggestions and tips on how to fix it (installing the fix is NOT OK!!!).

[Sovereignty 0]

* Beware of the I-HT bug (it doesn't allow R$$ sims to work in I-HT!!!). Take a look in my previous posts in this forum to see suggestions and tips on how to fix it (installing the fix is NOT OK!!!).

Please elaborate on this. I understand the HT/R$$$ jobs problem, but what is the problem that occurs from installing the fix? What impact does it actually have on gameplay?

[cogeo 960]

* Beware of the I-HT bug (it doesn't allow R$$ sims to work in I-HT!!!). Take a look in my previous posts in this forum to see suggestions and tips on how to fix it (installing the fix is NOT OK!!!).

Please elaborate on this. I understand the HT/R$$$ jobs problem, but what is the problem that occurs from installing the fix? What impact does it actually have on gameplay?

I have written a small tutorial, explaining things and describing the installation procedure in detail. Here is the link.