okay so every time i save the game i get a CTD, except in one city tile that is almost nothing but water and if i try to open an unrendered tile i also get a CTD i'm on windows 10 but i suspect it's something in my plugins folder but i have absolutely no idea what it could be i've tried the following: reinstall the game remove half of my plugins to see if that works and if it works move half of those plugins back into the folder etc. moving the game to its own drive linux (but i ran into other problems) running the game in a virtual machine (but i couldn't get hardware mode to work) install sc4 fix remove sc4 fix install the extra cheats dll remove the extra cheats dll run as admin compatibility mode with everything down to Windows XP in other words, the only thing i haven't tried is going back to windows 7 i have the CAM the NAM, a few fixes and a lot of various lots