As the mods have told us to make a thread here and not to continue abusing the thread entitled 'Simplification of Games- The Path Chosen by EA' I have decided to take the initiative and start one in the appropriate place. Firstly let me say that I am crawling along with my own pathetic project City Simulation Game Template, which I created a thread on in more idealistic days, but that I have pretty much given up my project Virtucity, and that means if anyone wants to employ that name they are welcome to it. One can only hope that an independent project can make what we wanted in 5. I wish I had the skills to do such a thing but I simply don't, and I have limited time to develop them what with studies and work etc. However I think it is essential we get together a team of skilled programmers in low level code language like C++, as well as graphic designers etc. I would also tentatively suggest the creation of a fund donatable to by supporters, as a way by which they could contribute if they lacked or duplicated existing and necessary skills. As to questions like 'should the finished product, if worthy, be sold, or kept open source?' and so forth, let the debating begin. I will say that a design document is the first milestone in such a project and it is like a constitution, so let's get it right first time round. I will not take the liberty of asking for the thread to be pinned as, naturally, if this cause does flop like previous efforts, that would be in vain. One of the last posters at the thread we commandeered suggested a timeline, and making the project fun, both of which I agree with wholeheartedly. One final initial suggestion would be the creation of a website/facebook page for the project. I apologise if I started a thread too prematurely, but as we had to migrate here I felt somebody ought to start the wheels in motion. We've been waiting for ten years, let's not wait for twenty.