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  • The sun might be shining...but it's still a living hell for thousands of people on the gulf coast.
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    It is still happening...people have been forgotten. Especially in the Mobile, and Biloxi areas.
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    I took these photos on near and around Thanksgiving in Biloxi, Mississippi.
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    Donate time, donate money, donate supplies. Do what you can, because trust me...it is hard living for many people on the Gulf Coast right now.
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    Please don't forget them!
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    Also...if anyone is interested in more pics...I have around 1200 that me and my friend took on a few trips...1000 from Thanksgiving, 200 from another time.

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    So true. Unfortunately. 15.gif But... What of New Orleans?
    EDIT: Ironic, isn't it, that you took those photos on Thanksgiving? Too bad that Thanksgiving wasn't really a Thanksgiving because there wasn't much Thanks to be Giving...

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    Is that the USA, looks like iraq.14.gif
    I guess nature is worse than war.
    Of corse i know, but i thougt a RICH nation such as the USA would have all that cleand up by now. 42.gif
    If a cat five huricane hit canada(halifax)we would have cleaned it all within 2 months MAX.
    After jaun the response was not perfect but better than katrina.
    and new houses coming as soon as a week
    AND WE'D start shipping mobile homes for them as soon as soon we would know a big one hit. 
    The first traler would be occupied the very next day
    In canada the insurance and morgages can be wrote off by revenue canada especily to restore the land following a calamity.
     
     
    I most cases the land on the gulf coast can't be cleared as it is not paid for completey(morgage).
    Clearing the land any way will annhilate the owners' credit to the point where they can't even get a $5 loan. 
    Clearly the owners of land in miss, and loisiana are unable to hande the problem by themselves.
    The jobs are gone and the banks are gone, so how the heck they get their lot fixed if will desroy them.
     
     
    I think the region should look like and new subdivision being built, streets repaved, and people moving in to the completed houses.
     
     
     
     
     
     

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    I think most of us are already aware that the place is still a wreck.

    Unfortunately, there aren't enough construction crews to fix things in a timely fashon. That, and there's a lot of damage.
     
    On a somewhat related note, there's a restaurant somewhere (I think it's in North Carolina) called Katrina's Lobster House, with the subtite A taste of New Orleans. They've refused to change their name (it's probably named after the owner's mother or something like that), and have been losing a lot of business. 21.gif
     
    It's silly, really. Almost worse than French Cleaners getting vandalized.20.gif

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    I think america isn't strong enough to conquer every disater and everytime again 'raising up '   

     
    It's bizar because just 6 months later and there might be a new catogory 5 in those areas ... time flies34.gif
     

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    Yeah, I think most people know about the disaster of the Gulf Coast. About five new students at my school are from New Orleans.

    Now, I'm not blaming the victims at all, but Houston's crime rate has gone up 45%!!!!! And 35% of Houston's cases envolve Katrina evacuees. Just a few days ago, a riot happened in a school in southeast Houston when kids started yelling, Go New Orleans! New Orleans shall win! Then Houston kids started getting upset because the evacuees started saying racial comments and started saying New Orleans is better.
    The drug rate has skyrocketed, and hundreds of new murder cases have stumbled into the city of Houston.
    Another case involves a man who came up to a guy and pointed a gun up to his head... but it wasn't a normal robbery. The guy asked for a job!!! 6.gif
    Personally, I hope they rebuild that city. The people from there are truly kind and grateful people. It's really not all of them, just a few people who want to cause trouble.
    But for the time being, I don't see any future of New Orleans. May God bless New Orleans. 19.gif

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  • Just to clarify...the reason I made this thread is because the news has basically dropped the story, and simply isn't interested anymore. My point is to make sure that this is not forgotten.

    And yes...it looks like a warzone. For those saying Canada would have cleaned it up by now...You simply have NO IDEA how bad it is...Lots of progress has been made. but much more needs to be...People still don't even have temporary homes yet....others are able to get their home in the process of rebuilding right now.

    As far as Thanksgiving not being Thanksgiving...I can say you would have been surprised...many churches, and others were serving Thanksgiving meals and giving out stuff that was needed. People were so truly thankful...of course you had some bitter folks simply because of the Government, etc. But realize that most people were truly thankful.

    We also have like 25 brand new bikes we were able to give away. Bikes have always been a big mode of transportation in Biloxi, and most folks lost their bikes due to Katrina.

    So simply, more help is needed...if you can go, I recommend it. Words cannot describe the damage and sorrow you can sense when you enter the area...

    Also...about New Orleans...yes, it is still needed serious help too...but I've seen it on the news a LOT...I've never seen Bayou le Batre on the news, and haven't seen Biloxi or Gulfport on in months.

    Also for crime rate...I guess it makes sense...realize the crime rate in New Orleans being one of the country's highest...and Biloxi is a dark city too. So...moving a large amount of people from point A to point be...where crime rate is 3 in one place and 1 in the other...I would expect it to jump somewhat...

    BTW...are there still people in the Astrodome?

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    The only way it could be soo bad is that like bangladesh, the gulf coast must be very very flat and most of the population living on that coast.
    and in canada much of our coasline is quite steep in places.
     
    I think i might look at some topagraphy maps of the gulf coast

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    Date: 2/23/2006 7:09:11 PM Author: godmodd5
    The only way it could be soo bad is that like bangladesh, the gulf coast must be very very flat and most of the population living on that coast.
    and in canada much of our coasline is quite steep in places.
    I think i might look at some topagraphy maps of the gulf coast

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    Check out at this map .  It doesn't show elevation but does show that Biloxi is basically on a narrow penisula, elevation 25 feet above sea level.

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    Date: 2/23/2006 4:00:31 AM Author: godmodd5
    Is that the USA, looks like iraq.14.gif
    I guess nature is worse than war.
    Of corse i know, but i thougt a 'RICH' nation such as the USA would have all that cleand up by now. 42.gif
    If a cat five huricane hit canada(halifax)we would have cleaned it all within 2 months MAX.
    After jaun the response was not perfect but better than katrina.
    and new houses coming as soon as a week
    AND WE'D start shipping mobile homes for them as soon as soon we would know a big one hit.
    The first traler would be occupied the very next day
    In canada the insurance and morgages can be wrote off by revenue canada especily to restore the land following a calamity.
    I most cases the land on the gulf coast can't be cleared as it is not paid for completey(morgage).
    Clearing the land any way will annhilate the owners' credit to the point where they can't even get a $5 loan.
    Clearly the owners of land in miss, and loisiana are unable to hande the problem by themselves.
    The jobs are gone and the banks are gone, so how the heck they get their lot fixed if will desroy them.
    I think the region should look like and new subdivision being built, streets repaved, and people moving in to the completed houses.

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    Well, what everybody on the dang plant seems to forget is that FEMA ran out of money after the previous TEN HURRICANES.
     
    I would know, I live in Florida. I was affected by: Charlie, Francis, Jeanne, Ophelia (took the rest of the beach away), Ivan, and Dennis, in just two years. All of those, save for Ophelia, were horrid events. Charlie went right through downtown Orlando, Francis just sat there for a WEEK!, Jeanne was a bit less, but still expensive, Ivan and Dennis were gulfcoast events that caused billions in damage.
     
    Billions. Millions upon millions of people needed money to fix roofs, or just plain rebuild their house. America cannot be rich after that, even without a war.
     
    What irks me is the fact that people were still in New Orleans. There shouldn't have been one person left in that city, not ONE. Even the poor people with no transportation should have had busses, cause we all know there was plenty of those at the Superdome. They 3+ days.
     
    Yikes.
     
    Anyway, all that has passed, and the rebuilding will be slow and painful, but most have gone on with their lives, with generous employers, and the grace of donations.
     
    There is a good chance this might happen all over again next summer, too. Well, I love Florida anyway, so I'll be here44.gif

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  • Come to think of it...yeah, Florida gets hit like this all the time...not as completely horrible damage (unbelievable)...but it is truly bad...

    But yeah...FEMA was dry...people didn't leave a city that is basically a bowl, and everything is being focused on New Orleans...I never saw a single news person any time I was in Biloxi...except for maybe people covering Laura Bush and Extreme Makeover - Home Edition.

    It's all bad...and it all sucks. I am just trying to raise awareness...it seems like some people have forgotten...15.gif

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    Date: 2/23/2006 7:33:07 PM
    Author: The_Family_Guy
    Well, what everybody on the dang plant seems to forget is that FEMA ran out of money after the previous TEN HURRICANES.




    I would know, I live in Florida. I was affected by: Charlie, Francis, Jeanne, Ophelia (took the rest of the beach away), Ivan, and Dennis, in just two years. All of those, save for Ophelia, were horrid events. Charlie went right through downtown Orlando, Francis just sat there for a WEEK!, Jeanne was a bit less, but still expensive, Ivan and Dennis were gulfcoast events that caused billions in damage.




    Billions. Millions upon millions of people needed money to fix roofs, or just plain rebuild their house. America cannot be rich after that, even without a war.




    What irks me is the fact that people were still in New Orleans. There shouldn't have been one person left in that city, not ONE. Even the poor people with no transportation should have had busses, cause we all know there was plenty of those at the Superdome. They 3+ days.




    Yikes.




    Anyway, all that has passed, and the rebuilding will be slow and painful, but most have gone on with their lives, with generous employers, and the grace of donations.




    There is a good chance this might happen all over again next summer, too. Well, I love Florida anyway, so I'll be here44.gif
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    Naw. The Department of Homeland Security stole the tires off the FEMA van. Some of you may beg to differ, but that's my opinion, and I'm sticking with it. No offense though. (I'm a just a typical Democrat...) But those Florida hurricanes were a pretty sad thing. Damn.
    That irks me too, the fact that there were still people there. Problem is, the government was slakcing off, and they didn't evacuate everyone.
    I agree that it looks like a war zone. Iraq in America... Sad. I won't comment on who would have cleaned up faster. Progress has been made, yes, but we have a looooooong way to go.
    About my saying that it wasn't much of a Thanksgiving: Well, I guess you proved me wrong there! However, a large number of them still don't have homes, as you pointed out yourself.
    Unfortunately, I can't help... I have a tight schedule and can't miss school anyway. Also, I just got over a cold and still have a sinus infection, so that would probably not be a good thing to do. Maybe someone else would be willing to volunteer... Sure hope so!
    There probably are people in the Astrodome, but I haven't checked.

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    I now realize that this was bigger than i thought.
     
    I've seen the damage at pine lake,alberta after a twister tore thru in july 2000.
    I guess that is what it looks like in that whole gulf area.
    Like a hunderd mile twister.
    I use a tornado to make it easyer for people like me who live in the middle of the contenent to understand the damage a hurricane can do.   
     

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  • About a 150 mile long tornado, yes. But also realize, that is Biloxi...there was 22 feet of water 15 miles (more actually I think) inland. As well as the fiercest winds (it hit hardest in Biloxi). New Orleans would have gotten out of the mess better if the levees did not fail...that is why government blame is being spread.

    So...22 feet of water...EXTREMELY powerful winds on a MASSIVE scale...it's hell.

    I should get one of my pictures of one of the casinos that floated on land...on TV it looked pretty big...but in real life...WOW...it was GIANT...the water simply picked it up and moved it...also ripped it apart...Screwy stuff...

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    Date: 2/24/2006 2:17:29 AM Author: The boy formerly known as Evil Muzz The thing that gets me about Katrina is, what was it about it that consumed ordinary decent people into looting and worse...?
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    Despiration, and taking advantage of the situation.
     
    I agree with you here Dev, people do seem to have forgotten it and I would like to raise awareness but Im all the waay across the sea, and I wouldn't do much good.  The only force man-created that is powerful enough to deliver that much destruction is the force of War, and that either wont happen for a while or humanity has already begun taking the slow, big steps of unity.  I aint talking about the War like the War on Iraq, that was puny, I am talking about the BIG ones, like the World Wars.
     
    London & Berlin were basically flattened becuase of bombing, and don't get me started on Hirshima.
     
    I am not going off topic, what Im saying is that this is a force of nature, a force which we as human beings cannot control, and the only way to move on is to rebuild, and live on.  People do remember Katrina, it was indeed a disaster, and many more will occur in all sorts of populated areas - and it will never stop.  In rememberance lets hope theres some sort of plaque of all the devastating hurricanes that destroyed lives, and the names of their victims.
     
    But really Im being honest here, mankind has gotten to the point in terms of natural disasters, we are quick to move on and get on with our lives at hand.  Its always best to fight nature in any way you can, than mourn over it.  But when it comes to a man-made disaster, this is something we must never ever forget, becuase we had the choice to change it, we had the choice to prevent it from occuring, and most importantly, if it didnt happen, lots of innocent lives would have been saved.
     
    In short, its nice to see some people that care, and thats what the relatives desperatly need with this disaster, but it is going to happen again, and again, and there is no stopping it.  All that we can do is learn from our mistakes - and for Katrina's case the levees, and perhaps a better government responce.
     
    Dont forget about the rest of the world, they too have suffered the face of natural disaster - and like Katrina they too no longer have press coverage, but becuase they don't have press coverage, it doesn't mean the world has forgotten them...
     
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    Originally posted by: dev

     BTW...are there still people in the Astrodome?quote>


    Well, I'm not sure if anyone has replied to this question or not, but no, no one is in the Astrodome anymore... they are either in hotels (which is 3/4 of them) or they live in welcoming stranger's homes (which hold 1/4 of the evacuees).

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    I know how bad hurricanes are. Katrina afected us too. fortunately when it reached us, the eye wall had dissapeared, so we weren't as bad as Hattiesburg or even Biloxi. but had the eye wall not dissapeared, we would have been right in the middle of the eye. AND we were on the eastern side of it. so we were just a few miles to the east from the eye. NOT A GOOD PLACE. the east side is the tornado spawning side. but yeah, it was hell. we rode it out at our old house, which the next day was covered in branches and stuff. not to mention no power and a manditory cerfew. it was illegal to drive to the next block. So yeah, I know how bad these things are. but the bush administration's response was an abselutely deplorable. and i think thats why it isn't in the news anymore. its bad press for bush, inc. so he and his rotten cronies who control the media had it ended.

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    Yes unfortunatley people tend to forget stuff when it disappeares from the news. Thanks for posting this dev, it is a very nice thing to do.

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    For those of you who are curious as to how flat it is down here, when Rita was supposed to make landfall at the town of Freeport, Texas, officials were predicting that the storm surge (which was going to be 20-30 feet) would send flood waters all the way to the city of Pearland, some 40 miles away.

    Also, although the rules of ST may not currently say anything about political statements, I would suggest that everyone stay away from blaming particular people in the government for any errors with the hurricane relief.  Such remarks won't do anything to change the past, and they only serve to increase the possibility of flaming - and I can't think of a worse way to repay Dirk and the admins for all of their hard work than to start a flame war.

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    Not to forget that this goes on in many other nations worldwide too. Look at Bangladesh or rural China. They usually kill a lot more people than Katrina.

    I belive the death toll was roughly 1,308-1,400 for Katrina. Its only more startling since this occured in a first world country.

    Still sad and depressing though.

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  • Yeah guys...seriously keep your politics out of this. This is to keep people aware of the Katrina problem...not to blame people for it... So...has anyone else gotten the opportunity to go down and help out? Any stories...? I will tell you guys some sometime...very tired right now...

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    My dad went down about a month ago and worked in Waveland, Mississippi with a group. He said it was pretty bad. Obviously. One thing that did stick out was he talked to an older man who lived down there. He said (my dad) something like, "It must be awful to have to go through this." The man replied something like, "It is, but we don't want or need the world's sympathy. If you want to help, we'd certainly appreciate it, but sympathy? No. I've lived here for 40 years. Every day I come home from work and ride my boat out into the Gulf with my dog to fish and watch the sunset. I lived in a house 100 yards from the shore. I knew that this day would come. It came. And 10 years from now I will be fishing in that gulf."

    Which I thought was pretty cool, really.

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    Originally posted by: dev

    Yeah guys...seriously keep your politics out of this. This is to keep people aware of the Katrina problem...not to blame people for it...

    So...has anyone else gotten the opportunity to go down and help out? Any stories...? I will tell you guys some sometime...very tired right now...quote>

    Well I had the opportunity to go down there. I stayed at the SeaBee base in Gulfport and worked out of the Pass Road Baptist Church in Biloxi, although I was able to drive from Waveland all the way past Kessler AFB during most of my time there. I was there for weeks with the Red Cross and helped to serve food to those who were living in the shells of their houses and in tents in their lawns.

    And oh dear person who thought that Canada would have this cleaned up in two months. Ha. I laugh and scoff at your general direction. In fact, if you were right in front of me, I would laugh in your face for a good 47 seconds at what you said. Because, believe me, you are wrong. In fact, you are so far from right you're left.

    And if I am not mistaken, doesn't the local government control the evacuation plans? Don't they determine when to leave and what to do? Seems like there was a failure at the local and state level as Katrina approached, not the Federal level. But then again the south is famous for having the most corrupt politicians, so there's nothing new about that.

    And my stories will have to wait. I just remembered why I never venture into the off-topic sections. Some people can be completely ridiculie.

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    Originally posted by: diablo_del_bano I know how bad hurricanes are. Katrina afected us too. fortunately when it reached us, the eye wall had dissapeared, so we weren't as bad as Hattiesburg or even Biloxi. quote>

    Where in MS are you from? I live in Hattiesburg.

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