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Removing SC4desc files (Dazed and confused)

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I'm totally confused!

I thought that when you create a lot that the info that is in the sc4desc file is saved in the exemplar file of the lot. So in essence the sc4desc file would be useless after the lot was finished.

But now it seems it may not be useless at all, I see that file in many uploads here and today I actually saw a comment from a lotter that the sc4desc was a required file!

Can someone straighten me out is the sc4desc file useless after the lot is saved is is it a required file to include with the lot when you upload it and install it in the game?

The reason I ask is that I've been blowing away the sc4desc file whenever I run into it, if it is actually required then I need to stop doing that before I get myself in trouble.

TIA

Dazed and Confused!

Brad (aka robdragon)

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Strictly speaking, all plugin files for SC4 are the same, regardless of the extension, it being more of a saving convention. Thus, it is feasible to save all the descriptors of a lot on the SC4lot file, just as it is possible to save them on a separate SC4desc file.

So, there isn't a rule of thumb for when the file formats can be discarded. Your best chance is to DATpack everything, as the process identifies and consolidates identical TGIs on different files of the same folder: if a descriptor isn't needed, the DATpacker will take charge of it.

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Well, the different files used in SC4 can be confusing indeed. First rule is always: if you're not sure, what the SC4Desc file does, open iLives Reader and look into it! It could be the Descriptor file for a
1: Growable building (than it IS needed),
2: separate Descriptor file for a PLOP building (NOT needed, because usually the DESC file in inside the SC4Lot file), or
3: PROP file (also needed, otherwise the PROP won't show up on the lot as intended).
When you look into the SC4Desc file, it says what it is right in the first row: Exemplar Type 0x00000010 Type: Prop or Type: Building. Sometimes the creator of a PROP files put this in the file name like: XXXX_PROP_XXXX_0xXXXXXXXX.SC4Desc. But that's not a rule. Some creators also like to put the SC4Desc file of a Growable into the SC4Lot file but copying it manually! Everything is possible. *:8) And unfortunately a lot of downloads here that are Ploppable Lots come with a separate Descriptor file, which is not needed, because as mentioned earlier, the SC4Desc file part is already inside the SC4 Lot file. All it does is clogging up your Plugins. So, whatever you do, make sure you look into the SC4Desc file before you delete it! Saves you a lot of troubles!

Kind regards!

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  • Thanks @markussaage!

    I'll have to back track and check. But I think i may end up having to recheck a lot of downloads at least back about 2-3 weeks anyway. I know some will be plops and some are I'm pretty sure are growables.

    I always thought that the descriptor file was always automatically saved when the lot was saved. Now that I know that they are not always, I'll have to decide what if anything other than just leave all the files alone or go through all and figure out what needs to go or stay. @matias93 mentioned datpacking but I've heard pro's and con's about that and since I have never used it I'll have to read up about it.

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    58 minutes ago, robdragon said:

    Thanks @markussaage!

    I'll have to back track and check. But I think i may end up having to recheck a lot of downloads at least back about 2-3 weeks anyway. I know some will be plops and some are I'm pretty sure are growables.

    I always thought that the descriptor file was always automatically saved when the lot was saved. Now that I know that they are not always, I'll have to decide what if anything other than just leave all the files alone or go through all and figure out what needs to go or stay. @matias93 mentioned datpacking but I've heard pro's and con's about that and since I have never used it I'll have to read up about it.

    Try with the download and installation catalogue by Doc Rorlach: http://sc4tools.co.uk/sc4t_downloads.asp

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